Yes Jill - it's on the Queensland BDM Pioneer CD. Kerri ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Jackson To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] Re New Lister Scholer; Sellers; Seidel Hello Kerri, Thank you for this information. One other piece of information together with the Marriage Certificate, or as it now seems a sort of Registration to marry, or what ever it is called, is another photo copy of a list of a family who came out on the ship 'Frits Ruter'. This ship came to Australia in 1879, so William's death would be in the period. Philipp Zella and children the names have been changed to their English equivalent: William; Martin; Ferdinand; Bernard; Phillip; Katerina; Anna; Mary. A note besides Katerina in my Mother's handwriting says 'Dads Mother'. I feel that the information my mother found was for my older brother who was interested in our family history. Unfortunately, he died several years ago so I cannot ask him what else he had found. Could you kindly tell me where you found the death of Wilhelm please? Regards, Jill Hello Jill Don't know if you already have this information, but Philipp ZOLLER and Anna Maria Francisca KRAMER had a son Wilhelm ZOLLER who died 18 Nov 1878. His death wasn't registered until 1879, and it was a Marine death. So that would indicate that the family didn't arrive until 1879. Regards Kerri ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Jackson To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Re New Lister Scholer; Sellers; Seidel Good afternoon, My name is Jill Jackson and I have joined this list because I have three German Ancestors in my families. Two on my side and one on my Husbands side. As my Mother and Father are now dead I have no one close to ask these questions. I have found in some of my Mothers papers what I though was a Birth Certificate of my Fathers Mother. I have now found out that it is a marriage certificate of what seems to be my Grandmothers parents. As I do not read German, and the little German I learnt at school has gone. I wonder if there is anyone here on this list that could help me with this document. Grandmother's name was Catherine Sellers, this is anglicised as far as I can work out to be Katerina Zeller or Zella, father Philipp Zoller, Mother Anna Maria Franziska Kramer. They seem to have held this ceremony at St Peter and St Paul Cathedral in Eltville. My other German Ancestor was my GGrandfather on Mothers side, he came into Australia in the 1850's from New Jersey in the USA to the Gold fields, then sailed to Victoria to work on the Victorian Gold Fields where he did by falling down a gold mine. I have many details of his activities in Victoria. My Husband's German Ancestor was Hugo Seidel; he came into NSW before 1900's. It was in NSW that he met a 3rd generation Australian girl married raised a family. He died by accident in 1921 Sydney. Is there any one on this list who has a connection to these three families? If some one can help me with the Translation of the Marriage Certificate, I would be grateful and delighted. Jill Jackson ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx