Thank you Kerri, I have that disk so will look it up, and see if there are any more of the family on it. It did think to look into Qld BDM because I have an entry of Catherine into Sydney in 1889 by ship, she called herself Catherine Sellers at this time. I would not have looked for Zoller as I did not know that name at the time. Catherine must have travelled down to Sydney from QLD. Regards, Jill J Yes Jill - it's on the Queensland BDM Pioneer CD. Kerri Hello Kerri, Thank you for this information. One other piece of information together with the Marriage Certificate, or as it now seems a sort of Registration to marry, or what ever it is called, is another photo copy of a list of a family who came out on the ship 'Frits Ruter'. This ship came to Australia in 1879, so William's death would be in the period. Philipp Zella and children the names have been changed to their English equivalent: William; Martin; Ferdinand; Bernard; Phillip; Katerina; Anna; Mary. A note besides Katerina in my Mother's handwriting says 'Dads Mother'.