Thanks Eric, I will try & follow up on this . The lady I'm looking for is big problem in that I can't find her, so here's hoping John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric & Rosemary Kopittke To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Cc: John Warnock Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Re: Fw: Family History research Hello John, We have extracted departures from Hamburg 1850 - 1873 and 1877 & 1878. Since Schoenberg could also be written Schönberg, I looked for SCHOENBERG and SCHÖNBERG. I could not find a Johanna, but found a Marie SCHONBERG aboard the "Palmerston" to New Zealand in 1872. She was recorded as being from Tucheln in Brandenburg, and was 19 years old. It is possible that her name really was SCHÖNBERG and written poorly and/or read wrongly - at times the writing on some of the lists was very poor indeed. Interestingly she appears to have been travelling in a group of 4:- 189 SCHONBERG Marie Tucheln Brandenbg Frau 19 f 190 SCHONBERG Johann Ludw Tucheln Brandenbg Schäfer 66 m 191 JAHN August Tucheln Brandenbg Schäfer 55 m 192 JAHN Auguste Tucheln Brandenbg Frau 48 f We guessed that "Tucheln" might have been a wrong spelling of Tuchen. All the best for your searches! Eric from Brisbane