Dear Albert and Fellow Listers, I want to thank Albert for sharing his research - I am finding it fascinating and it is renewing my interest in finding out more about my ancestor. I may have stumbled upon something interesting. On the Ships List: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/1825-1832.htm#nsw I found a report, "Emigrants from Great Britain and Ireland to Australia 1825-32" which seems to be a list of early assisted immigrants (including 1833). My ancestor MAY be on this list using his anglicized name, and there are other names which MAY be German so I am wondering if these are some of the early German settlers. His details are confusing because his name has changed on almost every document I have found. John George Goette, born 1800 in Rosenbach, Westphalia, Prussia Naturalization papers in 1850 stated he arrived in 1833 Marriage documents to his second wife state he was married to a Harriet Daechester in London Before this discussion I thought she was English but have never found any evidence of that surname in England so maybe she was German? Children born to first wife in NSW in 1837 and 40 - Keeps changing names John G. Geotty/Gatty, George Geotty etc. By 1841 census he is in Stonequarry, Picton using the name George Gatty Harriet dies sometime before 1853 but I haven't been able to find a death certificate He was the publican (and I think owner) of the Royal Arms Hotel in Picton when he married his second wife in 1853 and when he died in 1864. Wife and children called themselves Gatty. Death certificate lists his father as George Goethe, no mother listed. His granddaughter, my grandmother, had no idea he was German - she guessed Irish as his second wife was Irish. Back to the emigration report - there is a John Gatty (tailor) traveling with one other person to NSW in the report. I haven't found any evidence of a John Gatty in NSW except for mine and his son. I wonder if this is my ancestor trying to fit in by changing his name already? I wish the report listed ships and dates. Any thoughts? Sorry for the length but you never know what may help you or spark someone else's interest. Sharon San Diego, California