Dear Yvonne, How very kind of you to give so much help. I found eveidence of the Herder with four Honigs including an Auguste on a shipping to South Aus website. I thought it was GG Grandmother until I noticed the age on another site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dicummings/Images/Ships . This site said the boat left HANOVER. I don't think it is the right person The Auguste is listed as 14 and she should be 16 or 17. Maybe she lied. She married Thomas Botten in Adelaide on April 6th 1853 aged 18. She could not have therefore been on the Dochenhuden which arrived later. I have checked every ship's passenger list able to be accessed on Dianne Cummings list that left Hanover before that date and did not find another Honig. There were only three ships whose lists could not be accessed. I don't know of course if she came from the Hanover region so at present I can't be too specific in my research with the LDS. Another very kind correspondent suggested I research the births of her ! other children to see if I can gain more details of her place of birth...it is a good suggestion..especially for her later born Victorian children. I intend to try this after the Christmas break when the Research facility opens again. I am extremely grateful for your help, sometimes you just get lost for where to go next. Have a wonderful New Year and good luck with your research. Regards Jill Cummins ----- Original Message --- -- From: "Yvonne Izatt" <yvon@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] > Dear Jill > > I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the > Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden > in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the > Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain > your information. > If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list > it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most > cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small > ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. > However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside > Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a > copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next > week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which > often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church > records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may > find your ancestors. > > Regards > Yvonne Izatt > http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Thanks Meg! -----Original Message----- From: Meg Shepherd [mailto:mmshep@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2004 5:25 PM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Re: AUS-GERMAN-D Digest V04 #150Bounty Immigrants Dear Karen, There is information about these immigrants and this scheme in State Libraries (NSW anyway) family history collections - shipping records, sponsors etc. There is also at least one book about the scheme, the people and their experiences called "Greetings from the Land Where Milk and Honey Flows" edited by Cloos and Tampke. It may not give you personal details of your ancestors but lots about the immigrants' experiences. Meg Shepherd At 05:00 PM 24/12/2004, you wrote: >AUS-GERMAN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 150 > >Today's Topics: > #1 BOUNTY IMMIGRANTS ["Karen Mulvey" > <karen@spreadthewor] > #2 Re: [AUS-GERMAN] ["Yvonne Izatt" > <yvon@alphalink.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from AUS-GERMAN-D, send a message to > > AUS-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the AUS-GERMAN-D list administrator, send mail to >AUS-GERMAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:10:51 +1100 >From: "Karen Mulvey" <karen@spreadtheword.com.au> >To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <MBBBKDGHENGCIFOPKBLIGEIHEDAA.karen@spreadtheword.com.au> >Subject: BOUNTY IMMIGRANTS >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi > >My 2x Great Grandfather was a "bounty immigrant". They arrived in Sydney in >1855 aboard the Catteaux Wattel. He was a vigneron. > >Can anyone tell me how I go about finding out who brought them to Australia? > >Any help would be much appreciated. > >TIA > >Karen > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:45:45 +1100 >From: "Yvonne Izatt" <yvon@alphalink.com.au> >To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000001c4e924$c8285f40$a571a1ca@win98user> >Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Jill > >I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the >Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden >in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the >Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain >your information. >If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list >it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most >cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small >ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. >However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside >Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a >copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next >week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which >often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church >records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may >find your ancestors. > >Regards >Yvonne Izatt >http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Dear Karen, There is information about these immigrants and this scheme in State Libraries (NSW anyway) family history collections - shipping records, sponsors etc. There is also at least one book about the scheme, the people and their experiences called "Greetings from the Land Where Milk and Honey Flows" edited by Cloos and Tampke. It may not give you personal details of your ancestors but lots about the immigrants' experiences. Meg Shepherd At 05:00 PM 24/12/2004, you wrote: >AUS-GERMAN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 150 > >Today's Topics: > #1 BOUNTY IMMIGRANTS ["Karen Mulvey" > <karen@spreadthewor] > #2 Re: [AUS-GERMAN] ["Yvonne Izatt" > <yvon@alphalink.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from AUS-GERMAN-D, send a message to > > AUS-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the AUS-GERMAN-D list administrator, send mail to >AUS-GERMAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:10:51 +1100 >From: "Karen Mulvey" <karen@spreadtheword.com.au> >To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <MBBBKDGHENGCIFOPKBLIGEIHEDAA.karen@spreadtheword.com.au> >Subject: BOUNTY IMMIGRANTS >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi > >My 2x Great Grandfather was a "bounty immigrant". They arrived in Sydney in >1855 aboard the Catteaux Wattel. He was a vigneron. > >Can anyone tell me how I go about finding out who brought them to Australia? > >Any help would be much appreciated. > >TIA > >Karen > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:45:45 +1100 >From: "Yvonne Izatt" <yvon@alphalink.com.au> >To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000001c4e924$c8285f40$a571a1ca@win98user> >Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Jill > >I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the >Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden >in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the >Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain >your information. >If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list >it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most >cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small >ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. >However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside >Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a >copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next >week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which >often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church >records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may >find your ancestors. > >Regards >Yvonne Izatt >http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm

Hi Gillian I would like to know a bit of both. Yes, my family did end up in the Camden and Mulgoa Forest area. I assumed it was probably the Macarthurs who emplyed them but would have liked some proof. I have asked my library if they can arranged an inter-library loan for the book you mentioned, but so far it hasn't arrived. Thanks and Happy New Year to you too! Karen -----Original Message----- From: Gill Baker [mailto:troublepaddock@drumard.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2004 9:58 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] BOUNTY IMMIGRANTS Karen, Do you want to know who employed them when they first arrived or who was the driving force behind the immigration scheme? There is quite a lot of information on the scheme (ie the book 'Greetings from the land where milk and honey flow") and other articals on the scheme I have access to. Where did you family end up? It can be a good indication of who employed them. If the ended up around Camden then it is very likely they where employed by the Macarthurs. Happy New Year Regards Gillian

Karen, Do you want to know who employed them when they first arrived or who was the driving force behind the immigration scheme? There is quite a lot of information on the scheme (ie the book 'Greetings from the land where milk and honey flow") and other articals on the scheme I have access to. Where did you family end up? It can be a good indication of who employed them. If the ended up around Camden then it is very likely they where employed by the Macarthurs. Happy New Year Regards Gillian Karen Mulvey wrote: >Hi > >My 2x Great Grandfather was a "bounty immigrant". They arrived in Sydney in >1855 aboard the Catteaux Wattel. He was a vigneron. > >Can anyone tell me how I go about finding out who brought them to Australia? > >Any help would be much appreciated. > >TIA > >Karen > > >==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== >Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >

Dear Jill I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain your information. If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may find your ancestors. Regards Yvonne Izatt http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm

Hi My 2x Great Grandfather was a "bounty immigrant". They arrived in Sydney in 1855 aboard the Catteaux Wattel. He was a vigneron. Can anyone tell me how I go about finding out who brought them to Australia? Any help would be much appreciated. TIA Karen

Dear Siegfried I think I may have forgotten to thank you for your help. I have looked at the site and after Christmas I will get my German speaking son to do some work on it for me..even though you said I didn't need to write in German, it would be easier. Have a great Christmas. Jill Cummins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Siegfried Rambaum" <siram@lightlink.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:11 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Re: AUS-GERMAN-D Digest V04 #145 > > Is anyone reading this note related to > > Carl Friedrich Louis Honig > > Dorothea Julieane Honig > > Georg Friedrich Ernst Honig > > Auguste Amalie Honig > > These people arrived on the Herder from Hamburg to Adelaide on the 21/ 9/1851 > > I would like to know where these people originated from in "Germany". > > one area, where agents soliciting emigration to australia were very > successful, was the trans-Oder eastern part of the Brandenburg province. > An though the database of the Neumark-L maliniglist does not show any Honig > as an emigrant, it -- however -- shows a handful of Honigs, 1580...1930: > > http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=honig&beruf=&ort=&kreis= > http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=h%F6n&beruf=&ort=&kreis= > > I would recommend that you post your questions on the BRANDENBURG-L mai- > linglist, too. To subscribe, send the word SUBSCRIBE to > > brandenburg-l-request@genealogy.net > > Brandenburg-L is mainly in German, but if you ask in English you will get > the responses in English. > > > I promise not to ask ever again > > Humm, how will you resolveypur next question then? I mean, once you find out > where your folks are from, the questions will multiply like laboratory mice. > Each answer will sire at least three new questions ... > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Lyn, I didn't buy the death certificate because I saw the details on the Victorian Deaths microfiche, but I did not realize there would be more than date of death and parents names. So looks like I had better do it...as it costs so much I try not to buy more than absolutely necessary....maybe this is one of those occasions. many thanks JILL ----- Original Message ----- From: " McDades" <patlyn@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] re-Honig research > Probably an obvious question, but I will ask it anyway. Do you have any > of the death certificates of any of them? The death certificate of my > 2nd great grandmother gave me her place of birth, from that I was able > to go back to the beginning of records in her German Village, and then > discovered that she had emigrated to Australia earlier with her first > husband and then gone back to Germany and had come out again when her > brothers came. > Good luck. > > Lyn from Sunny Qld. > Beautiful one day > Perfect the Next > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello Carolyn, Louisa SCHRÖDER arrived in Australia with her mother, stepfather and half sister and half brother, under the stepfather's surname! They were aboard the 1865 voyage of the "Helene" which departed Hamburg 8 April and arrived Brisbane 30 July. 99 BROHMANN Johann Aschaumohr Schleswig Arbeiter 35 m 100 BROHMANN Margretha Aschaumohr Schleswig 44 f 101 BROHMANN Louise Aschaumohr Schleswig 20 f 102 BROHMANN Christine Aschaumohr Schleswig 16 f 103 BROHMANN Friedrich Aschaumohr Schleswig 13 m 104 BROHMANN Marie Aschaumohr Schleswig 3 f Marie died on the way to Queensland, I am descended from Christine, and a well-known former footballer is descended from Friedrich. Contact me off-list and I can fill in some more details for you. It would be interesting to know how many other people emigrated under a stepfather's name. I am sure that Louise SCHRÖDER would not have been the only one. It certainly made it difficult for Louisa's descendants to work out how she got here, and for me to find out what happened to Louisa BROHMANN. Greetings from sunny Brisbane Eric Kopittke On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 10:00 AM, AUS-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > From: Carolyn Crocker [mailto:cwcarolync@qldnet.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2004 12:22 AM > To: AUS-GERMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: newby posting interests Darling Downs area of Qld > > Hello all, > > I am new to the list & posting interests. > > I have Carl Dueffel (Duffel) coming to Ozz aboard the Marbs / Merbz to > Moreton Bay in 1855. > > I think his parents were Johann George Dueffel & Elisabeth > Kirchgessner. > It seems Lis died aboard the Marbs, & Jo died shortly after the Marbs > docked. > > Carl m. Louisa Schroder ( I'm sure there will be a zillion ways of > spelling > that ) in 1868. Louisa's parents, from her death records appear to be > George > Shroder & Margreta Mouse. > > Carl at 11-12 years walked 300ish kms with his 7 yr old bro. & 3 year > old > sis. to the station Tieryboo, not far from Condamine. I think (or > hope) > his Aunt & Uncle were with them. Lis's sis Mary Barbara Kirchgessner > & her > hubby Johann Geiger were on the same boat. > > Carl settled somewhere in the Burnett region (??) ... he apparently > had a > team of bullocks that he used from Roma to ?? ... maybe Longreach ? > > His daughter & her hubby are buried in the Murgon cemetery, Carl has a > monument in Miles. > > I am interested in any GEIGERS, DUEFFEL, SHRODERS, WEISS/Man ... also > BROWNS > (I have no idea where they come from originally) that settled in in the > Chinchilla, Condamine, Murgon, Miles area. > > Cheers all > Carolyn in Innisfail

Marged I suggest you contact the Anglo German Family History Society http://www.art-science.com/agfhs/ and Publicity Officer and Internment Archivist for the Society Ms Janet Harris 4 Edmansons Close, Bruce Grove Tottenham, London N17 6XD Not sure where you live but most Genealogiical Societies have their journal "Mitteilungsblatt" Cheers Yvonne Izatt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] KORS/CORS surname > My Great Grandfather, John Henry Cors, arrived in Liverpool in the 1870s from Germany. > It is possible that he was originally Johann Heinrich Kors, and that his name was Anglicised. > > In 1914, although he was the father of 12 British born children, he was interned on the Isle of Man at the outbreak of WW1. His health broke down, and he was returned to Hertfordshire in England, where he died, a long way from his home and family, in Libury Hall - a German Convalescent Home. > > What I would like to know is - how was he taken? Did they come to the house for him, or to the Sugar factory where he worked, or was there some other way? > > Marged > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Probably an obvious question, but I will ask it anyway. Do you have any of the death certificates of any of them? The death certificate of my 2nd great grandmother gave me her place of birth, from that I was able to go back to the beginning of records in her German Village, and then discovered that she had emigrated to Australia earlier with her first husband and then gone back to Germany and had come out again when her brothers came. Good luck. Lyn from Sunny Qld. Beautiful one day Perfect the Next

Thank you Yvonne - I am already a member and receive the Mitteilungsblatt. Perhaps I don't make sufficient use of this and should write to them with this. Thank you for your response Marged I suggest you contact the Anglo German Family History Society http://www.art-science.com/agfhs/ and Publicity Officer and Internment Archivist for the Society Ms Janet Harris 4 Edmansons Close, Bruce Grove Tottenham, London N17 6XD Not sure where you live but most Genealogiical Societies have their journal "Mitteilungsblatt" Cheers Yvonne Izatt

Hi All, I am new to list and thought that I would see if there was anyone out there researching my particular German family who settled in the New England area of NSW. My ancestor is Theodore Kunz who arrived on the Gottorp in 1857 from Germany. Theodore according to his death certificate is listed as born at Obererlenbach, Germany. His death certificate also lists that he had six children, four males and two females. The children that I have identified so far are: Peter Joseph Kunz (c1846) who married Elizabeth Brandscheid Henry Phillip Hilarius Kunz (c1852) who married Catherine Brandscheid John Bernard Kunz (c1853) never married Maria Anna Theresa Kunz - my ancestor (c1855) who married Christian Iverson (Iversen/Iwerson) The family settled at Kelly Plains near Armidale, NSW for a while. Later they moved to Bendemeer and Uralla, NSW, several family members later moved to other places in the district such as Tamworth, Gunnedah and Narrabri. The spelling for the surname seems to change from Kunz to Konz in later generations Looking forward to hearing from anyone that is related to this family and swapping information. Regards Leanne Newcastle, NSW

My Great Grandfather, John Henry Cors, arrived in Liverpool in the 1870s from Germany. It is possible that he was originally Johann Heinrich Kors, and that his name was Anglicised. In 1914, although he was the father of 12 British born children, he was interned on the Isle of Man at the outbreak of WW1. His health broke down, and he was returned to Hertfordshire in England, where he died, a long way from his home and family, in Libury Hall - a German Convalescent Home. What I would like to know is - how was he taken? Did they come to the house for him, or to the Sugar factory where he worked, or was there some other way? Marged

HI all, Remember when posting you need to send to aus-german-l@rootsweb.com, leave out request, cheers, Ainslee _______________________________________________ List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l & deller-l www.ainsleehooper.com GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide. -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Crocker [mailto:cwcarolync@qldnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2004 12:22 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: newby posting interests Darling Downs area of Qld Hello all, I am new to the list & posting interests. I have Carl Dueffel (Duffel) coming to Ozz aboard the Marbs / Merbz to Moreton Bay in 1855. I think his parents were Johann George Dueffel & Elisabeth Kirchgessner. It seems Lis died aboard the Marbs, & Jo died shortly after the Marbs docked. Carl m. Louisa Schroder ( I'm sure there will be a zillion ways of spelling that ) in 1868. Louisa's parents, from her death records appear to be George Shroder & Margreta Mouse. Carl at 11-12 years walked 300ish kms with his 7 yr old bro. & 3 year old sis. to the station Tieryboo, not far from Condamine. I think (or hope) his Aunt & Uncle were with them. Lis's sis Mary Barbara Kirchgessner & her hubby Johann Geiger were on the same boat. Carl settled somewhere in the Burnett region (??) ... he apparently had a team of bullocks that he used from Roma to ?? ... maybe Longreach ? His daughter & her hubby are buried in the Murgon cemetery, Carl has a monument in Miles. I am interested in any GEIGERS, DUEFFEL, SHRODERS, WEISS/Man ... also BROWNS (I have no idea where they come from originally) that settled in in the Chinchilla, Condamine, Murgon, Miles area. Cheers all Carolyn in Innisfail

Thanks Siegfried, I will try this avenue. You are right about the questions but I have spent so much time on GG Auguste that I am about to chuck in the towel if I don't find anything in the next few weeks. I may have to accept that she was born "somewhere in Germany" but it would be fun to know where. Regards, and Merry Christmas JILL CUMMINS > > Is anyone reading this note related to > > Carl Friedrich Louis Honig > > Dorothea Julieane Honig > > Georg Friedrich Ernst Honig > > Auguste Amalie Honig > > These people arrived on the Herder from Hamburg to Adelaide on the 21/ 9/1851 > > I would like to know where these people originated from in "Germany". > > one area, where agents soliciting emigration to australia were very > successful, was the trans-Oder eastern part of the Brandenburg province. > An though the database of the Neumark-L maliniglist does not show any Honig > as an emigrant, it -- however -- shows a handful of Honigs, 1580...1930: > > http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=honig&beruf=&ort=&kreis= > http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=h%F6n&beruf=&ort=&kreis= > > I would recommend that you post your questions on the BRANDENBURG-L mai- > linglist, too. To subscribe, send the word SUBSCRIBE to > > brandenburg-l-request@genealogy.net > > Brandenburg-L is mainly in German, but if you ask in English you will get > the responses in English. > > > I promise not to ask ever again > > Humm, how will you resolveypur next question then? I mean, once you find out > where your folks are from, the questions will multiply like laboratory mice. > Each answer will sire at least three new questions ... >

> Is anyone reading this note related to > Carl Friedrich Louis Honig > Dorothea Julieane Honig > Georg Friedrich Ernst Honig > Auguste Amalie Honig > These people arrived on the Herder from Hamburg to Adelaide on the 21/ 9/1851 > I would like to know where these people originated from in "Germany". one area, where agents soliciting emigration to australia were very successful, was the trans-Oder eastern part of the Brandenburg province. An though the database of the Neumark-L maliniglist does not show any Honig as an emigrant, it -- however -- shows a handful of Honigs, 1580...1930: http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=honig&beruf=&ort=&kreis= http://db.genealogy.net/cgi-bin/neumark.pl?name=h%F6n&beruf=&ort=&kreis= I would recommend that you post your questions on the BRANDENBURG-L mai- linglist, too. To subscribe, send the word SUBSCRIBE to brandenburg-l-request@genealogy.net Brandenburg-L is mainly in German, but if you ask in English you will get the responses in English. > I promise not to ask ever again Humm, how will you resolveypur next question then? I mean, once you find out where your folks are from, the questions will multiply like laboratory mice. Each answer will sire at least three new questions ...

Dear All, Is anyone reading this note related to Carl Friedrich Louis Honig Dorothea Julieane Honig Georg Friedrich Ernst Honig Auguste Amalie Honig These people arrived on the Herder from Hamburg to Adelaide on the 21/ 9/1851 I would like to know where these people originated from in "Germany". I think Auguste is my great great grandmother...if so she was 16 at this time. ( How can I tell if this IS the right Auguste...I only know my ancestor of this name, married in Adelaide at 18 in 1853.) The other people do not appear to be her parents given the names recorded on her death certificate....maybe they are brothers/sisters/ cousins/etc Can anyone enlighten me in any way? I promise not to ask ever again Jill Cummins in Melbourne

Hi Does anyone on the list have a copy of Die Auswanderung aus dem Herzogtum Nassau (1806-1866), Wolf-Heino Struck (Volume 4, The Emigration from the Duchy of Hessen-Nassau (1806-1866), compiled by Wolf-Heino Struck)? Also does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the above book? Thanks Karen Researching: WEDESWEILER, KIRCHNER, DOTZHEIMER, RUBENACH