Good evening Listers, I am posting my German ancestors to Australia; if anyone recognises these names, I would be delighted to hear from them, I have some information on them and would be willing to share. Regards, Jill Jackson.

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Hi , I have this Martens family if it is any help. Jocelyn Descendants of Nicholas MARTENS Generation No. 1 1. NICHOLAS1 MARTENS Child of NICHOLAS MARTENS is: i. MARIA2 MARTENS, b. 1837, Holstein, germany; d. 04 April 1878, Maryborough, Queensland, Australia; m. AUGUST HANSEN; b. February 1845, Hiede, Holstein, Germany; d. 05 September 1919, Maryborough, Queensland, Australia. More About MARIA MARTENS: Burial: April 1878, Maryborough, Queensland, Australia More About AUGUST HANSEN: Burial: September 1919, Maryborough, Queensland, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Martens" <martens@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Surname Search > > Searching for > > MARTENS, Pialba Area > Burchardt / Borchardt > Hinricks / Henricks Families > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

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hi, I am new to this list. I am trying to find someone who has access to the Emigrants from Hamburg to Australia, microfiche or cd to do a look up for me on the name BERZINSKI, BERSZINSKI, BERZINSKY, BERSZINSKY, BERRINSKY, BERRYMSKI, they are all the same family, but the name has been spelt so many different ways. Rudolf BERRYMSKI /BERRINSKI bought land in Port douglas around 1878/1879. He was married to Justina HOPP her name has been spelt many ways as well. They had there first child in Queensland in 1872, so they arrived prior to that. Rudolf father Ludwig BERRYMSKI was married to Chirstine KOSMAN, I am thinking that they may arrived a few years later. I am hoping this is enough information. Thanks in advance Jacque USA

hi, I am new to this list. I am trying to find someone who has access to the Emigrants from Hamburg to Australia, microfiche or cd to do a look up for me on the name BERZINSKI, BERSZINSKI, BERZINSKY, BERSZINSKY, BERRINSKY, BERRYMSKI, they are all the same family, but the name has been spelt so many different ways. Rudolf BERRYMSKI /BERRINSKI bought land in Port douglas around 1878/1879. He was married to Justina HOPP her name has been spelt many ways as well. They had there first child in Queensland in 1872, so they arrived prior to that. Rudolf father Ludwig BERRYMSKI was married to Chirstine KOSMAN, I am thinking that they may arrived a few years later. I am hoping this is enough information. Thanks in advance Jacque USA

Hello All Is their some kind person out there who has access to the Rockhampton Morning Bulletin and Central Queensland Advertiser dated Saturday February 15 1862, who could decipher a paragraph for me please. I have seen the article at the CQU but because of the age of the newspapaer I am unable to read the paragraph which begins. "A number of German immigrants arrived by " The article is on Page 2 and it begins with "Advice from Brisbane shows that the labours of the Queensland Immigration Commissioners" I had hoped to find notice of arrival of immigrants on the ship Caeser Godeffroy which arrived in Rockhampton in January/February 1862. If anyone has details on any write up from the paper regarding the arrival I would very much appreciate a copy. Thank you Jenny Lewington

Hi Eric, Thank you for all the information you sent me.It will be very useful.All the best. Myrtle in Wollongong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric & Rosemary Kopittke" <kopittke@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:22 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Re: {AUS-GERMAN}Iker{Ikert} > Hello Myrtle, > > The Hamburg emigrant list for the "Lammershagen" in 1878 lists the IKERT > family as Johanna, 66, widow; Eduard, 28, Stellmacher; Ottilie, 24, Frau; > Anna, 2, daughter; Louise, 1/2, daughter. All were recorded as being from > "Köstin b. Grambow", Pr. (Pr. being an abbreviation for Preussen or > Prussia). > > Greetings from Brisbane > > Eric Kopittke > > > On 21/02/2005, at 11:00 AM, AUS-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> From: "myrtle66" <myrtle66@iprimus.com.au> >> Date: 20 February 2005 10:28:07 AM >> To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: {AUS-GERMAN}Iker{Ikert} >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> I am looking for any information about the Iker family.They arrived in >> Brisbane before 29th Dec 1878.They were Edward(my great >> grandfather),Ottillie or Ottillige nee Watter(great grandmother)Johanna >> neeWohtfram(Edward's mother)gg grandmother and children Anna and >> Johannes. >> However in the Qld shipping list I have found Ikerts arriving in Qld 6th >> Aug 1878.Same names except Johannes isn't there and there is a Louise >> infant.My sister thought that Johannes did his schooling in >> Germany.Ottillie is down as Occillie on the list and she was 24 .They >> seem the right family.The ship the Ikerts were on was the"Lammershagen" >> If anyone has traced the iker or ikert family i would love to hear from >> them.Also what part of Germany did they come from.Does anyone have any >> information about Johannes Iker.Anyway thank you all.regargs Myrtle >> >> > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to > aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Hello Myrtle, The Hamburg emigrant list for the "Lammershagen" in 1878 lists the IKERT family as Johanna, 66, widow; Eduard, 28, Stellmacher; Ottilie, 24, Frau; Anna, 2, daughter; Louise, 1/2, daughter. All were recorded as being from "Köstin b. Grambow", Pr. (Pr. being an abbreviation for Preussen or Prussia). Greetings from Brisbane Eric Kopittke On 21/02/2005, at 11:00 AM, AUS-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > From: "myrtle66" <myrtle66@iprimus.com.au> > Date: 20 February 2005 10:28:07 AM > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: {AUS-GERMAN}Iker{Ikert} > > > Hi everyone, > I am looking for any information about the Iker family.They arrived in > Brisbane before 29th Dec 1878.They were Edward(my great > grandfather),Ottillie or Ottillige nee Watter(great > grandmother)Johanna neeWohtfram(Edward's mother)gg grandmother and > children Anna and Johannes. > However in the Qld shipping list I have found Ikerts arriving in Qld > 6th Aug 1878.Same names except Johannes isn't there and there is a > Louise infant.My sister thought that Johannes did his schooling in > Germany.Ottillie is down as Occillie on the list and she was 24 .They > seem the right family.The ship the Ikerts were on was > the"Lammershagen" > If anyone has traced the iker or ikert family i would love to hear > from them.Also what part of Germany did they come from.Does anyone > have any information about Johannes Iker.Anyway thank you all.regargs > Myrtle > >

Hi everyone, I am looking for any information about the Iker family.They arrived in Brisbane before 29th Dec 1878.They were Edward(my great grandfather),Ottillie or Ottillige nee Watter(great grandmother)Johanna neeWohtfram(Edward's mother)gg grandmother and children Anna and Johannes. However in the Qld shipping list I have found Ikerts arriving in Qld 6th Aug 1878.Same names except Johannes isn't there and there is a Louise infant.My sister thought that Johannes did his schooling in Germany.Ottillie is down as Occillie on the list and she was 24 .They seem the right family.The ship the Ikerts were on was the"Lammershagen" If anyone has traced the iker or ikert family i would love to hear from them.Also what part of Germany did they come from.Does anyone have any information about Johannes Iker.Anyway thank you all.regargs Myrtle

Hi, looking for information on the children of Johann Ludwig KRUGER & Dorothea Christine KRUGER (Kaslow), arrived Queensland 1866. Children are: Ernstine b1841 Prussia (My wife's 2xggmother). Wilhelmine b1843 Prussia Justine b1849 Prussia Friederich b1852 Prussia Marie b1858 Prussia August b1865 Prussia I would like to know where the children all ended up, married to etc... rgds Phil Butler

Hello All Can anyone give me more details into German Immigration to Rockhampton. My Family's history lies with the PLAHN family who arrived in Rockhampton in early 1862 from Germany. They sailed on the ship Cesar Godeffroy which left Hamburg in October 1861 and arrived in Moreton Bay January 1862. It is thought that Moreton Bay was the first port of call and that the ship then sailed to Rockhampton, but some newspaper write ups state that all immigrants were off loaded at Moreton Bay and the ship returned to Germany. SO... can anyone tell me how the immigrants got from Moreton Bay to Rockhampton. Thank you Jenny

Hi all, I am researching the following families and hope that someone can help me out here; Martens - Frans/Franz/Frank Arrived in Maryborough 1865 with another brother. One brother (Johann my side) went to Mt Perry and the other member (Frans) supposedly went to Pialba area. Burchardt / Borchardt - Christian born 1802, Reichmannsdorf, Thuringen, Germany, married to an unknown wife and had 7 children Frederick Charles August Wilhelmina Julia Fredericka Johanne Christians second marriage was to a Mary Koppen m: 1852, Claushagen or Burbysloch, Germany, and they had 4 children Frederick William Mary Earnest and Hannah Fredericka Looking for info on Christian, his 1st wife's details, and really anything to do with this family. Family immigrated to Australia 1864 via Moreton Bay. Hinricks / Henricks - Looking for info on family from Mt Morgan, Maryborough areas I hope this is not to much absorb and that someone can help me out here. Tony Martens Darwin NT Australia martens@ihug.com.au

----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Grulke" <grulke@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:14 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Germans to NSW Hi All, All this talk about German's in NSW sparked my interest once again. I happen to know that my own ancestor lived in Picton, NSW sometime between January 1860 and April 1863. He was a monumental stonemason and no doubt must have been involved in some stone cutting there. I went to Picton today and visited the local library. The librarian was very helpful, but i did not have enough time to absorb much information. (The visit was a little rushed.) However I found there a folder entitled "Early days of Picton" by J. Steele. I think it was written sometime before 1940. I found a 3 random references to some German's in the area. KLESENDORLFFE or KLENSENDORLFFE - a German publican http://www.acenet.com.au/~marlane/tahmoorhousesa_nsw.htm From other sources, I believe Klensendorlffe arrived "free" per the Ship "Ocean" in 1818. He had served in the British Navy. He was a publican at Picton from 1824. He also later owned "Elizabeth Farm" in Queanbeyan under what is now Lake Burley Griffin. RUMKER, Christian Charles Louis - a German astronomer, from "Stargard, Pommerania" who, having been brought out by Sir Thomas Brisbane in 1822 was given a 1000 acre land grant by Governor Macquarie in that same year. The article also mentions that Governor Macquarie was an enthusiastic astronomer himself. Rumker went back to Hamburg later on. ca. 1829 http://www.austehc.unimelb.edu.au/fam/1524.html There is a street in Picton named after him. IHLE, Andrew - a vinedresser from Wuertemburg who married in Picton in 1859, aged 23. This was from the Marriage index in available in the Picton Information centre (the old Post Office building). (NOTE ; A person of this same name died in 1868 up in Ipswich QLD. Same person ??) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans/1998-12/0915170783 ------------------------------------- I also found out that the Royal Arms Hotel ((earlier mentioned on this list by Sharon in San Diego, CA, USA) ), no longer exists, but was on the site where the L.J. Hooker real estate agent's office now stands. --------------------------- regards, Niall this brief research was done on only 2 hours sleep..........!!

Niall, Thanks for checking for me. I had been told it is currently a residence so I guess your information is more accurate. Sharon

Albert my great great grandfather came to South Australia in 1846 on the George Washington. I haven't been able to find anything that related to his religion. He settled at Auburn in the State's lower north as a shoemaker and married a woman from Cornwall (I think). I get the feeling that he came he for economic reasons - certainly the date makes me think it had to do with the socio-political climate at the time, though I don't know exactly where he came from in Germany only that he was ex Bremen. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Grulke" <grulke@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] reasons for migration >I have had and seen a few emails that once again claiming religion as the > reason for the German migration in the 19th century. > > I can prove that this is a fallacy that has grown up in our society. > Religion had little or even nothing to do with their migration. The > reasons > are entirely social and economic. I am totally convinced of this. The > revolts of 1848, Prussian growth as a power in Germany, depression in > Germany, the potato rot and crop failures plus the opportunities offered > by > the agents going there to recruit were all factors but religion was not > one > of them. > > There were two ships came to South Australia in 1839 and another in 1842 > carrying migrants leaving Silesia, a German state. They came for religious > reason. After that the church was active in assisting and organising > migrant > ships from the same area but the reasons they came were not religious. > Mostly they came because of family letters encouraging them and because > family here paid their fares. > > I am aware that history has recorded that religion played a large role but > that history has been based on the South Australian experience. > > I know that many Lutheran descendants of the South Australians will fire > up > on this statement but the evidence stacks up against them at every move. > > I believe that I have now proven that the German migration to South > Australia was far smaller than to either Queensland or New South Wales. > The > number to South Australia comes a distant fourth in size. > > There has been claimed from time to time that a group settled at Bethania > in > Queensland and came for religious reason but when one pursues it one finds > that the theory is grossly flawed. > > Albert Grulke > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to > aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I have had and seen a few emails that once again claiming religion as the reason for the German migration in the 19th century. I can prove that this is a fallacy that has grown up in our society. Religion had little or even nothing to do with their migration. The reasons are entirely social and economic. I am totally convinced of this. The revolts of 1848, Prussian growth as a power in Germany, depression in Germany, the potato rot and crop failures plus the opportunities offered by the agents going there to recruit were all factors but religion was not one of them. There were two ships came to South Australia in 1839 and another in 1842 carrying migrants leaving Silesia, a German state. They came for religious reason. After that the church was active in assisting and organising migrant ships from the same area but the reasons they came were not religious. Mostly they came because of family letters encouraging them and because family here paid their fares. I am aware that history has recorded that religion played a large role but that history has been based on the South Australian experience. I know that many Lutheran descendants of the South Australians will fire up on this statement but the evidence stacks up against them at every move. I believe that I have now proven that the German migration to South Australia was far smaller than to either Queensland or New South Wales. The number to South Australia comes a distant fourth in size. There has been claimed from time to time that a group settled at Bethania in Queensland and came for religious reason but when one pursues it one finds that the theory is grossly flawed. Albert Grulke

Hello Jenny, The "Cesar Godeffroy" departed Hamburg 25th October 1861 and arrived in Moreton Bay 29th January 1862. According to the "Moreton Bay Courier" of the day: "Seven deaths occurred during the voyage, but six of these were infants. There were also two births. 203 of the immigrants were selected by Mr. Heussler in various parts of Germany, and are consigned to Messrs. Heussler and Francksen here, while the remainder are consigned to Messrs. Raff and Co., the agents for the vessel." The "Cesar Godeffroy" departed Moreton Bay 17th February 1862, bound for Valparaiso. After returning to Hamburg, it brought another load of immigrants to Moreton Bay, departing Hamburg December 1862. So any of its passengers who went to Rockhampton must have gone by coastal shipping. On the 1861/62 voyage were 223 PLAHN Carl  Dammerow            Preussen      Schäfer       34  m 224 PLAHN Wilhelmine Dammerow            Preussen                    29  f There were also several other families from Dammerow on the "Cesar Godeffroy". There was a FEHLHABER family (9 persons) aboard the "Fritz Reuter" which went to Rockhampton, leaving Hamburg in 1877. They were recorded as being from Drosedow in Pommern. I hope that this helps Eric Kopittke > > From: "Dunroamin" <jenard@iinet.net.au> > Date: 9 February 2005 6:14:42 AM > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Immigrant ships & Passengers > > > Hello all > > Can anyone give me any details on the immigration ship Caeser Goddfrey > from Hamburg Germany to Rockhampton Australia in 1861-62. Also any > information on the family name of Plahn and Fehlhaber. > > Thank you > > Jenny

> Can anyone give me any details on the immigration ship Caeser Goddfrey > from Hamburg Germany to Rockhampton >Australia in 1861-62. Also any > information on the family name of Plahn and Fehlhaber. Thank you. >Jenny Hi Jenny, I can tell you that J.C. Goddefroy (Godeffroy?) and Son (und Sohn) was the name of a large German shipping firm who traded a lot in the pacific islands. They had a big fleet of ships. There were quite a few Germans in the pacific who were agents for them, in Tonga for example, there were a few Germans, as in other islands in the 19th century. Here's a quote from a website.... "GERMAN MICRONESIA Although there were already sailors and traders from Bremen or Hamburg in the area before 1850, German presence only became really important in the 1860's and 1870's when the Hamburg trading house of Johann Cesar Godeffroy und Sohn became prominent in the copra industry/trade and established a commercial empire that soon covered most island groups in the area (the Carolines, the Gilberts, the Palau, etc) The owner of the company, Johann Cesar VI Godeffroy (1818 - 1885), became known as the King of the South Sea (König der Südsee). At first the operations were directed by the trading post of the company in Samoa (since 1857), but later permanent posts were also established in Micronesia itself (Yap in 1869, Jaluit in 1873) The company went bankrupt in 1878, but by then German presence was firmly establshed." ------------------------------- Recently, it seems a lecture was given in January 2005 at the Institut for Ethnology at the University of Goettingen, by Prof. Dr. Kurt Düring,(of Hannover) on the subject of the Goddefroy shipping company in the pacific. The lecture was entitled entitled "Das Welthandelshaus J. C. Godeffroy & Sohn in der Südsee 1855 - 1880". "The world trade house J.C. Goddefroy in the south sea 1855-1880" http://www.uni-goettingen.de/show_veranst.php?id=7347 -------------------------------- No doubt quite a few German's to Australia travelled on the Goddefroy companies ships. Here is a short bio in German of the man Johann Caesar Godeffroy..... http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/johann_cesar_gedoffroy.htm Regards, Niall Tangney sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dunroamin" <jenard@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Immigrant ships & Passengers > Hello all > > Can anyone give me any details on the immigration ship Caeser Goddfrey > from Hamburg Germany to Rockhampton Australia in 1861-62. Also any > information on the family name of Plahn and Fehlhaber. > > Thank you > > Jenny > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to > aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I was wondering whether anyone was researching the family of Martin MARTENS. Martin was born circa 1826 in Hannover, he married Mary KILLURY in Melbourne in 1855. They had six children. Martin's parents were Ludovic Martens and Tipias Angerbetts. I would love to hear from anyone researching this family. Gail