Thanks Graeme & Wynnette This person was her sister 1 off 13 in the family and Carl was her father he was also my GG Grand Father, my mother was so upset when she went missing after a argument with her father. but she may turn up sometime with a bit of luck unless something bad happened in Kalgoorlie. Kind regards Ron Clark East Fremantle Western Australia this message has been scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Missing Person 1923-26 > Dear Ron, > > Took a quick look at the Victorian DEATH records, post 1921. Found these: > > BELICKE, CARL WILLIAM aged 86 - Essendon 1929/4983 > > DALBRIN, CHARLES - father ERNT (ERNEST?) DALBRIN, mother VERONICA BELICKE > FITZROY SOUTH 1923/14822 No age given. > > Could this be a child of your ELLEN who may have changed her name. > Unfortunately, the marriage index only goes up to 1920. > > Hope this may be of some help. Could look up NSW if you think it might > help. > > Regards, Wynnette. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Clark <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:32 PM > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Missing Person 1923-26 > > > > NatureHelp needed > > > > around the year of 1924 my mothers cousin went missing from the Kalgoorlie > > area of Western Australia, she was a beautiful girl, I do have a photo of > > her on her 21st Birthday. > > It was reported by the family that she may have been seen in > > Melbourne Victoria some years after she went missing. > > > > If anybody is searching through marriages or deaths and sees > her > > name please let me know as there is only one family in Australia with her > > surname to my knowledge, she was : > > > > Eva Luisa BELICKE born October 02, 1902 in Western Australia. > > > > > > > > Ron Clark > > East Fremantle > > Western Australia > > this message has been scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2002 > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Dear Ron, Took a quick look at the Victorian DEATH records, post 1921. Found these: BELICKE, CARL WILLIAM aged 86 - Essendon 1929/4983 DALBRIN, CHARLES - father ERNT (ERNEST?) DALBRIN, mother VERONICA BELICKE FITZROY SOUTH 1923/14822 No age given. Could this be a child of your ELLEN who may have changed her name. Unfortunately, the marriage index only goes up to 1920. Hope this may be of some help. Could look up NSW if you think it might help. Regards, Wynnette. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Clark <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Missing Person 1923-26 > NatureHelp needed > > around the year of 1924 my mothers cousin went missing from the Kalgoorlie > area of Western Australia, she was a beautiful girl, I do have a photo of > her on her 21st Birthday. > It was reported by the family that she may have been seen in > Melbourne Victoria some years after she went missing. > > If anybody is searching through marriages or deaths and sees her > name please let me know as there is only one family in Australia with her > surname to my knowledge, she was : > > Eva Luisa BELICKE born October 02, 1902 in Western Australia. > > > > Ron Clark > East Fremantle > Western Australia > this message has been scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2002 > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

It isn't off topic as a number of German speaking men went to WW1, the children of German immigrants went to the war too. I have Hans Stoltenberg who served in WW1 (son and grandson of German immigrants) what is unusal about him is that he served under his real name. The Germans in WW1 shot as traitors those who had German names who fought for the allies, so if uncle Herman dissappeared arround WW1 he may have gone to war, under an assumed name! Regards, Gillian On Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:14 PM, Ainslee [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to post something slightly off topic but not really. > > I just got 2 world war 1 dossier's from the national archives of australia. I cannot believe the information involved. HEAPS. So if you have any rellies in ww1 you want info on i'd recommend doing this, costs about $15 per dossier. Cheers, Ainslee > http://ainslee.fourdegrees.com/ > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you Robin. What are the books all about? How did they come into being? Kind regards Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: WITTWER <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > Hi Kath, > The Biographical Index is 4 books. It can be purchased from the South > Australian Genealogical & Heraldry Society Inc., GPO Box 592. Adelaide SA > 5001 > Regards > Robin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katherine & Hamish Johnstone" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:49 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > > > > Dear Robin > > > > Thank you very much for the information, it is greatly, greatly > appreciated! > > Is the Biographical Index a book? Is it something that can be purchased > by > > individuals? > > > > Kindest regards > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: WITTWER <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:36 AM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > > > > > > > Hi Katherine > > > The Biographical Index of South Australian 1836-1885 lists a Friedrich > > > Schulz born 17.7.1827 Lauthental, Harz, Hanover. arrived 1849 on the > > 'George > > > Washington', was a farmer as Angas Park, Burra, religion Lutheran, > married > > > Auguste nee Geyer born 19.1.1832. Children Wilhelm (1851-), Johanne > Maria > > > Wilhelmine (1855-) Carl Heinrich Christian (1859). > > > Regards > > > Robin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Katherine & Hamish Johnstone" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:57 PM > > > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > > > > > > > > > > Hi Listers > > > > > > > > Wishing all of you a belated happy new year! Here's my list of German > > > ancestors, if anyone else may be researching the same? > > > > > > > > SHULZ, Johann Christian Friedrich b 1827 in ?, died in South Australia > > > > GEYER, Auguste Emilie Henrietta b 1832 in ?, died in South Australia > > > > GRIMM, Georg Ernst Christian b 1812 in Germany, died 10/8/1882 in SA > > > > GIESEKE, Henriette Auguste b 1814 in Germany, died 19/1/1887 in SA > > > > > > > > If you recognise any of the surnames, or individuals mentioned please > > drop > > > me a line! > > > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello listmembers, I have an interest in the surnames of KLEINSCHMIDT and WILLERT. Whilst the majority of the family is complete due to the vigilance of many family members there are quite a few outstanding vacancies. I am particularly interested in the KLEINSCHMIDTS of NSW. I live at the moment in Charters Towers in far north Queensland and am quite happy to do anylookups for anyone requiring these. I also have quite a few books on early German families in the Bundaberg (Qld) area Many thanks Allison SCHULTZ

Hi alll, a search engine has been added to my website to make your journey easier, have fun, Ainslee http://ainslee.fourdegrees.com/

Hi all, I just wanted to post something slightly off topic but not really. I just got 2 world war 1 dossier's from the national archives of australia. I cannot believe the information involved. HEAPS. So if you have any rellies in ww1 you want info on i'd recommend doing this, costs about $15 per dossier. Cheers, Ainslee http://ainslee.fourdegrees.com/

Hi all, When trying to translate old German documents, the language that was used 100 or so years ago has now changed considerably (as has English) and the modern translation site may not ideal. When we were trying to translate our old documents, letters & diaries we asked a local lady who was teaching German in a school and between her and a very old lady who had spoken German in the home for the first 20-30 years of her life they managed to work out most of it. But the translation site on the web is a good starting point if you've got no other alternatives. Chris C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitson, Dianne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German translation > Hi > > For those like me who do not speak German, I can get the "gist" of German > text using the internet site http://www.freetranslation.com/ > > It can sometimes be useful. > > Regards > > Dianne > > ______________________________

> Help needed > > around the year of 1924 my mothers cousin went missing from the Kalgoorlie > area of Western Australia, she was a beautiful girl, I do have a photo of > her on her 21st Birthday. > It was reported by the family that she may have been seen in > Melbourne Victoria some years after she went missing. > > If anybody is searching through marriages or deaths and sees her > name please let me know as there is only one family in Australia with her > surname to my knowledge, she was : > > Eva Luisa BELICKE born October 02, 1902 in Western Australia. > > > > Ron Clark > East Fremantle > Western Australia > this message has been scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2002 >

NatureHelp needed around the year of 1924 my mothers cousin went missing from the Kalgoorlie area of Western Australia, she was a beautiful girl, I do have a photo of her on her 21st Birthday. It was reported by the family that she may have been seen in Melbourne Victoria some years after she went missing. If anybody is searching through marriages or deaths and sees her name please let me know as there is only one family in Australia with her surname to my knowledge, she was : Eva Luisa BELICKE born October 02, 1902 in Western Australia. Ron Clark East Fremantle Western Australia this message has been scanned by Norton Anti Virus 2002

Hi Kath, The Biographical Index is 4 books. It can be purchased from the South Australian Genealogical & Heraldry Society Inc., GPO Box 592. Adelaide SA 5001 Regards Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine & Hamish Johnstone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > Dear Robin > > Thank you very much for the information, it is greatly, greatly appreciated! > Is the Biographical Index a book? Is it something that can be purchased by > individuals? > > Kindest regards > Kath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WITTWER <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > > > > Hi Katherine > > The Biographical Index of South Australian 1836-1885 lists a Friedrich > > Schulz born 17.7.1827 Lauthental, Harz, Hanover. arrived 1849 on the > 'George > > Washington', was a farmer as Angas Park, Burra, religion Lutheran, married > > Auguste nee Geyer born 19.1.1832. Children Wilhelm (1851-), Johanne Maria > > Wilhelmine (1855-) Carl Heinrich Christian (1859). > > Regards > > Robin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Katherine & Hamish Johnstone" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:57 PM > > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Roll Call > > > > > > > Hi Listers > > > > > > Wishing all of you a belated happy new year! Here's my list of German > > ancestors, if anyone else may be researching the same? > > > > > > SHULZ, Johann Christian Friedrich b 1827 in ?, died in South Australia > > > GEYER, Auguste Emilie Henrietta b 1832 in ?, died in South Australia > > > GRIMM, Georg Ernst Christian b 1812 in Germany, died 10/8/1882 in SA > > > GIESEKE, Henriette Auguste b 1814 in Germany, died 19/1/1887 in SA > > > > > > If you recognise any of the surnames, or individuals mentioned please > drop > > me a line! > > > > > > Katherine > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi List Hope the New Year is starting off well for all of you. Thought I'd list the German names I'm researching. AMMERMANN - Two brothers, Frank - arrived Brisbane 1906, and Frederick - arrived Brisbane 1911. Frank married Wilhelmine Henriette THIELE in Nov 1911. They had 4 children Ethel May (who I can find no trace of except her birth, her younger brothers never knew she even existed and I can't find a death for her, any suggestions would be appreciated), Frederick Louis, Victor Harold and Wilfred. Frederick (aka Fritz) married Mary TAYLOR in April 1917. They had 2 children Frederick (my grandfather) and John. Both brothers were from East Friesland, Prussia. VON OVEN & LUDEMAN - Henry Frederick LUDEMAN married Hermine VON OVEN in Germany. Henry and Hermine arrived in Victoria Australia in 1854 with 4 children Henry Herman Alexander (married Paulina KOCH), Julius (died 1909), John George (married Helen JONES - 1878, married Emily BARLEY - 1881) and Maria (John KELLY - 1869, married Thomas GRIFFIN - 1880). Three more children were born in Victoria Charles Benjamin (married Agnes Maud TRACY - 1888, married Margaret MURPHY - 1905), Susannah Adelide Henrietta (died 1866) and Eleanor Margaret (married Charles MORGAN). LUDEMAN & KOCH - Henry Herman Alexander LUDEMAN married Paulina Mary KOCH in Oct 1871, Melbourne. Paulina was the 2nd child of Johann Gustave Wilhelm (aka William) KOCH and Charlotte Pauline RUDOLPH (parents were John RUDOLPH and Elizabeth GRUHN). Henry and Paulina had 9 children Mary Elizabeth (married Francis FEGAN - my great grandparents), William Henry (married Mary HEIMER), Charles Edward (married Sarah MURPHY), Eleanor Charlotte (married Thomas Leonard HARKER), Susannah Hermina (married Alexander Hugh OLIVER), Alexander (died 1899), John Henry (married Mary MURPHY), Henry Ernest (died 1890) and Emma Paulina (married John Howard WALLACE). Any connections? Regards Faye Queensland Australia

I had excellent results on the "alte Deutsche", a few years ago, with some of the senior members of the Deutsche Turn Verein - German Club, 416 Vulture Street, East Brisbane - 07 3391 2434. One or two of the folks there at the time had translators tickets. The could read the script which was in vogue, before Uncle Adolph changed the rules, in about 1937. Regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ian and Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2002 15:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] German translation Hi all, When trying to translate old German documents, the language that was used 100 or so years ago has now changed considerably (as has English) and the modern translation site may not ideal. When we were trying to translate our old documents, letters & diaries we asked a local lady who was teaching German in a school and between her and a very old lady who had spoken German in the home for the first 20-30 years of her life they managed to work out most of it. But the translation site on the web is a good starting point if you've got no other alternatives. Chris C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitson, Dianne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German translation > Hi > > For those like me who do not speak German, I can get the "gist" of German > text using the internet site http://www.freetranslation.com/ > > It can sometimes be useful. > > Regards > > Dianne > > ______________________________ ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Sandra, The were family members who went to many different areas of NSW, and one, Johann Gottlieb (born 30.3.1861, SA) who married on 9.10.1884, SA - Marie Auguste Schulz (born 21.8.1860, SA) were living at Dimboola at the time of their deaths - him in 1828, and her in 1944. At this time I do not know what family they had, or if indeed they had any! Any help at all would though be much appreciated Regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris's Car Cafe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Johann Samuel KRAUSE > Hi Ron, > > Do your Krause' have Wimmera connections? > > I used to live in the Wimmera, and my Dad's godchild was a Krause!! > Can I help ????? > > Cheers > Sandra O'Hara > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi For those like me who do not speak German, I can get the "gist" of German text using the internet site http://www.freetranslation.com/ It can sometimes be useful. Regards Dianne

My family interests are:- BAUMGARTNER from Geisingen, Württemberg to Grafton then Armidale 1855. HAMEL from Frischborn, Hessen and arrived in Australia 1865, settled in the Armidale district at Saumarez Ponds. Naturalised in 1865. Married Fredericka BAUMGARTNER 1865. Thanks Dorothy from Penrith NSW

Hi Ron, Do your Krause' have Wimmera connections? I used to live in the Wimmera, and my Dad's godchild was a Krause!! Can I help ????? Cheers Sandra O'Hara

Hi Ron, Your Johann Baensch is mentioned in "The Geelong Germans". Do you have this book ? Cheers Sandra O'Hara

Hi Listers, These are the 2 main german surnames I am researching. I have a copy of a book, The Geelong Germans, with lots of info, if anyone would like lookups, just ask !!!! Cheers Sandra

Hi Does anyone read german I have my ancestors papers from germany and his occupation is written as a Cossather and Handarbeiter does anyone know what a Cossather is ? In German the a in Cossather has two dots on top. Any help would be appreciated Regards Vikki