Hi Bob, I am emailing you on behalf of a friend who has Moritz ancestors in SA. She tried to email you and it bounced back so I am trying for her. If you are interested in contacting her regarding the Moritz line, her email is [email protected] Cheers, Catherine

Hi Everyone, Is anyone able to enlighten me as to where I might get NSW denization records for my Frederick Paul? I already have the record number - just want the paper work. Cheers, Catherine in Sunny Baranduda

Thanks Catherine - I will contact her. Regards Bob e-mail - [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Edwards [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 18:15 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Bob Moritz Hi Bob, I am emailing you on behalf of a friend who has Moritz ancestors in SA. She tried to email you and it bounced back so I am trying for her. If you are interested in contacting her regarding the Moritz line, her email is [email protected] Cheers, Catherine ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Lisa, thanks for the site, I found some passenger lists for the Amalfi, but no Henry Rolfs, I'm sure he was a crewman, I have posted my interest anyway, thankyou...Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Burton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:14 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Amalfi or Amallfy > Val, > > Further to my recent posting - can now supply that address. > > http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass.html > > Didn't find the "Amalfi", but you could list your interest in this vessel. > > Rgs > Lisa > Gladstone, Q > > > > > > > The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. > > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes. > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Listers, I am looking for any information you can pass onto me re Hess in Germany, thanking you, Gay & Bob

I would be interested in the source of the information that the Germans executed POWs with German names. I suspect it was propaganda rather than fact. It is not mentioned by the Australian Official Historian, CEW Bean, and hundreds of South Australians with German names were captured in WW1 (including one of my relatives, Edgar Hugh Topperwien, 50th Battalion, AIF) and they were returned (relatively) unharmed. Bruce Topperwien -----Original Message----- From: Gillian Baker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] Aren't i a naughty list admin? It isn't off topic as a number of German speaking men went to WW1, the children of German immigrants went to the war too. I have Hans Stoltenberg who served in WW1 (son and grandson of German immigrants) what is unusal about him is that he served under his real name. The Germans in WW1 shot as traitors those who had German names who fought for the allies, so if uncle Herman dissappeared arround WW1 he may have gone to war, under an assumed name! Regards, Gillian On Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:14 PM, Ainslee [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to post something slightly off topic but not really. > > I just got 2 world war 1 dossier's from the national archives of australia. I cannot believe the information involved. HEAPS. So if you have any rellies in ww1 you want info on i'd recommend doing this, costs about $15 per dossier. Cheers, Ainslee > http://ainslee.fourdegrees.com/ > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ______________________________

Val, Further to my recent posting - can now supply that address. http://www.users.on.net/proformat/auspass.html Didn't find the "Amalfi", but you could list your interest in this vessel. Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes.

Hi Denise, Women did become naturalised if they bought land and were in business with out a husband. One of mine did in Queensland. If the husband had been naturalised and she took over after he died I think she, like the children would be ok Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > Yvonne. What about women who had to buy a business to earn their livihood > or had to take over husband's business when he died. Did they too hve to > become naturalized? > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yvonne Hughes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > That's ok Mark, > > > > Some more information on NSW Naturalisation > > > > Letters of Denization 1834 - 1847 > > Certificates of Naturalisation 1849 - 1876 > > Register of Certificates of naturalisation 1849 - 1859, 1876 - 1903 > > List of Aliens to whom Certificates of Naturalisation have been issued > > 1859 - 1876 > > Certificates of Naturalisation 1877 - 1896 (subsequently cancelled by the > > C,Wealth Govt) > > Sydney Aliens Register 1898 - 1902 (includes arrivals 1865 - 1901 > > > > Indexes on fiche and some of the records on film. > > > > Yvonne Hughes. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Day" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > > > > --=======14D844DE======= > > > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C; > charset=us-ascii; > > format=flowed > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > Thank you Yvonne. > > > > > > You have answered some of my questions that > > > I didn't know who or how to ask, thereby removing > > > a major frustration. > > > > > > Mark in Sydney > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Bargum is a small village close to the Danish border. It is about 12 km or 8 miles south west of Niebull or about (very rough) 20 miles ESE of Flensburg. (A good friend of mine is a map nut and he got me a great map of Germany.) Regards, Gillian On Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:39 PM, Valerie J Wilson [SMTP:[email protected]] wrote: > Thanks to listers, have found G/Grandfathers birth place, sort of. On his application for naturalization he states his Birth Place as Bargen (Bargum),Schleswig . > Can anyone help me with this town, do you know of it?, where is it?, any relevant information would be most welcome. > Thank you, Val Wilson [email protected] > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That's ok Mark, Some more information on NSW Naturalisation Letters of Denization 1834 - 1847 Certificates of Naturalisation 1849 - 1876 Register of Certificates of naturalisation 1849 - 1859, 1876 - 1903 List of Aliens to whom Certificates of Naturalisation have been issued 1859 - 1876 Certificates of Naturalisation 1877 - 1896 (subsequently cancelled by the C,Wealth Govt) Sydney Aliens Register 1898 - 1902 (includes arrivals 1865 - 1901 Indexes on fiche and some of the records on film. Yvonne Hughes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Day" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > --=======14D844DE======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Thank you Yvonne. > > You have answered some of my questions that > I didn't know who or how to ask, thereby removing > a major frustration. > > Mark in Sydney >

thanks Yvonne, that follows seeing they took on the citizenship of the husband. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > Hi Denise, > > Women did become naturalised if they bought land and were in business with > out a husband. One of mine did in Queensland. If the husband had been > naturalised and she took over after he died I think she, like the children > would be ok > > Yvonne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise McMahon" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > Yvonne. What about women who had to buy a business to earn their > livihood > > or had to take over husband's business when he died. Did they too hve to > > become naturalized? > > > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yvonne Hughes" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > > > > That's ok Mark, > > > > > > Some more information on NSW Naturalisation > > > > > > Letters of Denization 1834 - 1847 > > > Certificates of Naturalisation 1849 - 1876 > > > Register of Certificates of naturalisation 1849 - 1859, 1876 - 1903 > > > List of Aliens to whom Certificates of Naturalisation have been issued > > > 1859 - 1876 > > > Certificates of Naturalisation 1877 - 1896 (subsequently cancelled by > the > > > C,Wealth Govt) > > > Sydney Aliens Register 1898 - 1902 (includes arrivals 1865 - 1901 > > > > > > Indexes on fiche and some of the records on film. > > > > > > Yvonne Hughes. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mark Day" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:01 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > > > > > > > --=======14D844DE======= > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C; > > charset=us-ascii; > > > format=flowed > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > > Thank you Yvonne. > > > > > > > > You have answered some of my questions that > > > > I didn't know who or how to ask, thereby removing > > > > a major frustration. > > > > > > > > Mark in Sydney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yvonne. What about women who had to buy a business to earn their livihood or had to take over husband's business when he died. Did they too hve to become naturalized? Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > That's ok Mark, > > Some more information on NSW Naturalisation > > Letters of Denization 1834 - 1847 > Certificates of Naturalisation 1849 - 1876 > Register of Certificates of naturalisation 1849 - 1859, 1876 - 1903 > List of Aliens to whom Certificates of Naturalisation have been issued > 1859 - 1876 > Certificates of Naturalisation 1877 - 1896 (subsequently cancelled by the > C,Wealth Govt) > Sydney Aliens Register 1898 - 1902 (includes arrivals 1865 - 1901 > > Indexes on fiche and some of the records on film. > > Yvonne Hughes. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Day" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Naturalisation records > > > > --=======14D844DE======= > > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C; charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Thank you Yvonne. > > > > You have answered some of my questions that > > I didn't know who or how to ask, thereby removing > > a major frustration. > > > > Mark in Sydney > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Try Probates,Wills & Testaments, Land Titles Local Government Rate Books Electoral Rolls etc... Just some from my list. Regards Jenny Jenny Myers - Arcadia Vale NSW on beautiful Lake Macquarie President Lake Macquarie F H Group NSW http://www.lmfhg.hl.com.au Member Maitland F H Circle NSW Member Armidale F H Group NSW Member Wivelsfield History Study Group SSX

Thanks Lisa, I will keep on looking, at least I know now the ship exists. Val Wilson,.Mornington,Victoria

Hi Looking for details on: Charles SMITH born abt 1853 Danzig married to Margaret Ann Dixon. Initially settled in Sydney. HERDEGEN/HERDEGAN KNEIPP Regards Dwayne

Hi there Yvonne, The only listing is for a Christian Friedrich Julius Schröder, an ore-sorter of Clausthal, who came out on the "Auguste and Meline" 17/12/1848 - 03/04/1849, age 20. Other information: "died on the Murray before 1958". Guess he would have seeing that he was born c. 1828! Hope this helps. Geoff Leunig. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Marshall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2002 11:39 Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] JAHN family > This is a request to look up any SCHRADER/ SCHRODER / SCHRODER names in you > book please. They were from Osterode am Harz. Thanks if you can, Yvonne in > Melbourne > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Val, Probably not quite what you want but, as 'background' - I have the following person arriv. per "Amalfi", Sydney 1883: MOHR, Bernhard from Trennfeld, Bayern (Bavaria) Of interest, this vessel's name was spelt "Amalfy" on the above's Naturalization documents. Also aboard on that voyage: BEHL, Georg Carl from Röttbach, Bayern (His Naturalization documentation gives "Amalfi".) Have you looked at 'On-line sourcing of Australasian Passenger Lists'? Can't supply web site for this at present, sorry - as I can't get into my 'bookmarks'. Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes.

--=======14D844DE======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you Yvonne. You have answered some of my questions that I didn't know who or how to ask, thereby removing a major frustration. Mark in Sydney At 07:59 AM 28/01/02 +1100, you wrote: >Hello, > >I would just like to add to Naturalisation information. >Prior to 1903 naturalisations were done in each Australian colony, and were >subject to separate Acts. > > >From 1904 naturalisation records are held by the National Archives in >Canberra. Only 10% of these records are on line. If one is looking for >naturalisation after 1904 and the name of their ancestor is not on the >National Archives site, ring the National Archives office in which ever >state you are in and ask them to check their index. They will do this and >give the reference numbers to order the records. Some Genealogical >libraries have the index on fiche from 1904 to 1917. > >Prior to 1904 there are naturalisation indexes on fiche or film in main >libraries and PRO's of what ever state you are researching. > >Yvonne Hughes > > > >==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== >For your Aus-German resources go to >http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~ainslee_hooper/germlinks.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02 --=======14D844DE======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7D1B258C Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11/01/02 --=======14D844DE=======--

Hello, I would just like to add to Naturalisation information. Prior to 1903 naturalisations were done in each Australian colony, and were subject to separate Acts. >From 1904 naturalisation records are held by the National Archives in Canberra. Only 10% of these records are on line. If one is looking for naturalisation after 1904 and the name of their ancestor is not on the National Archives site, ring the National Archives office in which ever state you are in and ask them to check their index. They will do this and give the reference numbers to order the records. Some Genealogical libraries have the index on fiche from 1904 to 1917. Prior to 1904 there are naturalisation indexes on fiche or film in main libraries and PRO's of what ever state you are researching. Yvonne Hughes

This is a request to look up any SCHRADER/ SCHRODER / SCHRODER names in you book please. They were from Osterode am Harz. Thanks if you can, Yvonne in Melbourne