hi margaret, i have most of the information, waht i'm looking to do now is write it up into a book or something of the sort, have 10 generations worth now so figure i better get something done with it, Ainslee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham & Margaret Otto" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] compiling a family history > Have you tried http://rootsweb.com/? It appears to be a free site and > anyone can access it. > > Margaret > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ainslee Hooper" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:35 PM > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] compiling a family history > > > > Hi all, i'm just wondering if anyone has an idea of where to start with > actually writing up a family history? any ideas would begreatly appreciated, > also if anyone can recommend a program that might be able to give a template > to work around this would also be appreciated, thanks, Ainslee > > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/ > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Have you tried http://rootsweb.com/? It appears to be a free site and anyone can access it. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] compiling a family history > Hi all, i'm just wondering if anyone has an idea of where to start with actually writing up a family history? any ideas would begreatly appreciated, also if anyone can recommend a program that might be able to give a template to work around this would also be appreciated, thanks, Ainslee > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/ > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

there are few good programs out that you can buy or down. all you need is something basic. i use the family tree maker deluxe.. it does the job. hope this helped. dan

Hi there again, I have been to the cemetery at nundah. here are a couple of links that should help you out. sorry if they dont. dan. http://www.nundah.com/Sub_Sites/history.htm http://www.nundah.com/History/Historical_Places/Cemetery/cemetery.html http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans/1999-08/0933610006 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AUS-QLD-SE-Germans/1999-08/0934430588 http://www.raogk.org/queensland.htm

Hi all, i'm just wondering if anyone has an idea of where to start with actually writing up a family history? any ideas would begreatly appreciated, also if anyone can recommend a program that might be able to give a template to work around this would also be appreciated, thanks, Ainslee http://www.ainsleehooper.com/

Thanks Dan, it's really dates, names etc that I'm seeking and am hoping that someone out there might know something about these families. I know that there are quite a few Wahry listings in the Brisbane telephone book and few Vahry ones. If I don't have any luck from this site I'll write to them all and see if they can help. Thanks anyway, Niki ----- Original Message ----- From: "HOTMAIL" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Vahry or Wahry or Miere > HI there Niki, > > i dont know any of your names listed, > only that i am in the suburb of Northgate, > 5 mins from Nundah. > > i might be able to help with some questions. > dan ryan, > brisbane Qld > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

HI there Niki, i dont know any of your names listed, only that i am in the suburb of Northgate, 5 mins from Nundah. i might be able to help with some questions. dan ryan, brisbane Qld

Hi I'm a new subscriber. I'm looking for some clues as to my German Australian family. My grandfather was Carl William VAHRY born in Berlin on 11 May 1880 and went to Queensland in 1882 with his parents William Carl WAHRY and Gustu Maria MIERE who settled in Nundah, Brisbane. I understand that my grandfather and one of his brothers anglicised their name to VAHRY while the others in the family retained the original WAHRY. I would imagine that the Christian names were also anglicised and were originally Karl Wilhelm.My grandfather came to New Zealand in 1909 and married my grandmother Mary Christina HASWEll in Auckland 4 years later. If any of my Australian WAHRY or VAHRY relations are reading this or if anyone has any information (i.e. names, dates etc) or clues as to how I could get this information I would be very grateful. many thanks, Niki Francis

Hi team I do have high school german, and have benn trundling round searching things, but I can't find a site that might allow me to find records of ship deserters. Mine, "Henry", Theodore Heinrich Gotthilf Eder, deserted from an unnamed warship in London, and signed on as a carpenter on the Egmont, for New Zealand, aged 20, in 1856. He was born in Hamburg, parents Frederick and Anna Elizabeth. Any clues on how I can search more effectively? Migs Eder NZ -- Quote: There is no problem which cannot be made worse, especially if people claim there's no problem. - Modern / Trad.

Sharron, Intriguing but I wonder are you sure it is Grulke and not GAULKE. There are only four Grulke families recorded in Victoria and they are myself and my three children. There are no Grulke family in South Australia recorded on any documents. There are however several families of GAULKE in both states. Sorry to be argumentative on this but I am convinced that your information is incorrect and that the family is GAULKE. There are no GRILKE or GRILK recorded in Victoria either. If however you can find evidence to support what you have been told I would love to see it. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 5 April 2002 1:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Hello Albert, This isn't an "idea" This is what happened in my family. There are some Grulke's living in Victoria and also South Australia. Perhaps those are the people they I need to be in contact with? Thanks for your help anyway, Sharron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Grulke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Sharron, I find this a most amazing story. Now did anybody come up with this idea? The Grulke family are a very old Volhynian family. It appears that they migrated from Volhynia to Pomerania around the 17th century but that is only guess. I have traced the family back to 1810 in Pomerania and my ancestors came to Queensland in 1870. To my knowledge there are no other Grulke family members in Australia beyond those living in Queensland and me. If you name change was reversed I might be able to through some light on it all but this really intrigues me. I might mention that there are family GAULKE and GRUNKE. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 9:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Hi Albert, My "Grilk's" came to Australia from Germany,arriving in Tasmania in the early 1800's. As far as my research can tell,there were several members of the same family,but only one kept their name unchanged. The others changed one,two and sometimes three letters to form a similar sounding name.I was told by a relative that lives in Sydney they changed the surname to "Grill" so it would seem they were from the Netherlands,not Germany.Others were changed to "Grulke" and "Grilke" That's basically all I have for now.But I am waiting to hear from a lady in Tasmania to confirm where the "Grulke's" and "Grill's" are now residing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Sharron ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Greg, Where are you located? Tell me more about this. Albert Grulke in cloudy cool Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Olive [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2002 10:27 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Re: AUS-GERMAN-D Digest V02 #79 >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: AUS-GERMAN-D Digest V02 #79 >Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:00:05 -0700 > Hi Sharron, Thought I would mention that I have a Grelck ancestor whose surname is similar to Grilk/Grulke. He was John Henry Grelck who an arrived in Australia from Hamburg during the mid 1800's. There are also descendants from a Bendix Grelck (or Grill) who arrved in Australia about the same time Regards Greg Olive _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Albert and listers: Coming up shortly, when I finish typing it, its rather lengthy, will be a brief early history of the Toowoomba Hospital from around 1850 to 1890s. but in the meantime, Albert, I have located the following from the newspaper of the day, The Toowoomba Chronicle Saturday 25th July 1885: FATAL ACCIDENT AT MIDDLE RIDGE: We regret to learn that a rather sad accident which terminated fatally, happened to a resident of Middle Ridge, named Gustav Gruhlke, on Saturday last. The unfortunate man was bringing a load of straw to town and when near the residence of Mr Beh's, he found that the load had shifted to one side. he stopped the horse, and equalised the balance of the load. After shifting the straw, he proceeded to pull the rope tight on the straw, and while in the act of doing this, the rope broke and he fell backwards on to the ground. As he appeared to be severely injured, and unable to move, a little daughter of his, who happened to be with him, ran up to Mr Beh's house, and Dr Garde was immediately sent for. Upon his arrival the doctor examined Gruhlke, and found he had sustained a severe nervous shock {Albert tells the story that Gustav his grandfather fell onto a pitchfork and pierced his spinal cord, but no mention of that in this report}. The doctor was, however, hopeful that the shock would pass away and the man recover. Such hope was, however, not destined to be realised. At first he seemed to improve, but on Monday, it became evident that his case was hopeless and on that evening he expired. the deceased was 37 years of age, and leaves a widow and a family of four young children to mourn the loss of their provider. He was an industrious and sober man, and was not many years in the colony. As himself and family were only beginners in the way of farming, the circumstances of the widow and children are in anything but a good condition, and as Mrs Gruhlke is not in the best of health at present, she is precinded from earning her living. This seems a fair case for the exercise of charity, and we are glad to learn that some steps are being taken to assist the bereaved widow and orphans. Bye for now, Jim

Hello Albert, This isn't an "idea" This is what happened in my family. There are some Grulke's living in Victoria and also South Australia. Perhaps those are the people they I need to be in contact with? Thanks for your help anyway, Sharron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Grulke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Sharron, I find this a most amazing story. Now did anybody come up with this idea? The Grulke family are a very old Volhynian family. It appears that they migrated from Volhynia to Pomerania around the 17th century but that is only guess. I have traced the family back to 1810 in Pomerania and my ancestors came to Queensland in 1870. To my knowledge there are no other Grulke family members in Australia beyond those living in Queensland and me. If you name change was reversed I might be able to through some light on it all but this really intrigues me. I might mention that there are family GAULKE and GRUNKE. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 9:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Hi Albert, My "Grilk's" came to Australia from Germany,arriving in Tasmania in the early 1800's. As far as my research can tell,there were several members of the same family,but only one kept their name unchanged. The others changed one,two and sometimes three letters to form a similar sounding name.I was told by a relative that lives in Sydney they changed the surname to "Grill" so it would seem they were from the Netherlands,not Germany.Others were changed to "Grulke" and "Grilke" That's basically all I have for now.But I am waiting to hear from a lady in Tasmania to confirm where the "Grulke's" and "Grill's" are now residing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Sharron ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Sharon Have you tried Lutheran archives yet? They were very helpful for me with records on my Piltz family, go to the Aus-German links and give them a go. Regards Ed McDonald Perth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chenelle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] German names > Hello Albert, > > This isn't an "idea" This is what happened in my family. > > There are some Grulke's living in Victoria and also South Australia. Perhaps > those are the people they I need to be in contact with? > > Thanks for your help anyway, > > Sharron > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert Grulke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:33 AM > Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] German names > > > Sharron, > I find this a most amazing story. Now did anybody come up with this idea? > The Grulke family are a very old Volhynian family. It appears that they > migrated from Volhynia to Pomerania around the 17th century but that is only > guess. > I have traced the family back to 1810 in Pomerania and my ancestors came to > Queensland in 1870. > To my knowledge there are no other Grulke family members in Australia beyond > those living in Queensland and me. > If you name change was reversed I might be able to through some light on it > all but this really intrigues me. > I might mention that there are family GAULKE and GRUNKE. > Albert Grulke > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 9:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German names > > > Hi Albert, > > My "Grilk's" came to Australia from Germany,arriving in Tasmania in the > early 1800's. As far as my research can tell,there were several members of > the same family,but only one kept their name unchanged. The others changed > one,two and sometimes three letters to form a similar sounding name.I was > told by a relative that lives in Sydney they changed the surname to "Grill" > so it would seem they were from the Netherlands,not Germany.Others were > changed to "Grulke" and "Grilke" > > That's basically all I have for now.But I am waiting to hear from a lady in > Tasmania to confirm where the "Grulke's" and "Grill's" are now residing. > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards, > > Sharron > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, don't forget you can access the genealogy web board on my websiteas well as urls for german/australian research. It's there for your use, cheers, Ainslee http://www.ainsleehooper.com/

Sharron, I find this a most amazing story. Now did anybody come up with this idea? The Grulke family are a very old Volhynian family. It appears that they migrated from Volhynia to Pomerania around the 17th century but that is only guess. I have traced the family back to 1810 in Pomerania and my ancestors came to Queensland in 1870. To my knowledge there are no other Grulke family members in Australia beyond those living in Queensland and me. If you name change was reversed I might be able to through some light on it all but this really intrigues me. I might mention that there are family GAULKE and GRUNKE. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 1 April 2002 9:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] German names Hi Albert, My "Grilk's" came to Australia from Germany,arriving in Tasmania in the early 1800's. As far as my research can tell,there were several members of the same family,but only one kept their name unchanged. The others changed one,two and sometimes three letters to form a similar sounding name.I was told by a relative that lives in Sydney they changed the surname to "Grill" so it would seem they were from the Netherlands,not Germany.Others were changed to "Grulke" and "Grilke" That's basically all I have for now.But I am waiting to hear from a lady in Tasmania to confirm where the "Grulke's" and "Grill's" are now residing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Sharron ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: AUS-GERMAN-D Digest V02 #79 >Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:00:05 -0700 > Hi Sharron, Thought I would mention that I have a Grelck ancestor whose surname is similar to Grilk/Grulke. He was John Henry Grelck who an arrived in Australia from Hamburg during the mid 1800's. There are also descendants from a Bendix Grelck (or Grill) who arrved in Australia about the same time Regards Greg Olive _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hello Listers I have just joined this list hoping to obtain information on part of my father's family. My gg grandfather, Charles Frederick William BARTLETT was born 12 Sep 1822 in Wollein, Prussia. I can find no trace of him until his marriage in Tasmania in 1854. I have tried various spellings thinking his name may have been anglicised but no go. I now think maybe he was born to British parents. His father may have been a soldier out of a job after the Napoleonic Wars who perhaps became a mercenary in Prussia during their Wars. Charles Frederick had become a Captain himself by the time of his marriage. His wife was Isabella CARMICHAEL born c. 1828 (seems to be unregistered) in Hobart town. In turn, their son James Campbell BARTLETT married Bettina Johanna GOLGERTH who was born Emerald Hill (South Melbourne) in 1858. My grandmother was a daughter of James Campbell BARTLETT and and Bettina Johanna GOLGERTH. Bettina's father was Carl Heinrich Johann GOLGERTH born c. 1826 and died East Brunswick 1911 aged 85 yrs. Her mother was Johanna Louisa Wilhelmina WESTWINK who died in 1899 aged 67 yrs. These two married in 1852 and most of their children had Germanic names - lots of Otto, Hermans, Gottfried, Bismark etc. If anyone has anything about these ancestors I would dearly love to hear from you. Irene Rees - Gold Coast ex Gippsland, Australia. Site Host: Beechworth and Myrtleford Vic., Forbes N.S.W. BDM sites on Tracking Our Family Footsteps through Time in Australia. http://www.angelfire.com/ns/aust Also researching: DUNSTAN - Cornwall 1844+ LEYSHON - Glamorgan, Wales 1800+ McMILLAN - Newtonards, Co. Down, IRL 1800+ PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ REES - Glamorgan, Wales 1820+ PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ SCARLETT - Suffolk, Eng 1750+ BARTLETT - Wollein, Prussia 1822+, Tasmania, Aus. 1858+ CARMICHAEL - Moray, Scot. 1790+, Tasmania, Aus, 1820+ DOWSETT - Essex, Eng. 1840+ McHENRY - Dublin, IRL 1800+ NOLAN - Ardfert, Co. Kerry, IRL 1810+ RATH - Clogher, Co. Louth, IRL 1750+ SIMS - Staffs. Eng. 1800+

Hi Albert, My "Grilk's" came to Australia from Germany,arriving in Tasmania in the early 1800's. As far as my research can tell,there were several members of the same family,but only one kept their name unchanged. The others changed one,two and sometimes three letters to form a similar sounding name.I was told by a relative that lives in Sydney they changed the surname to "Grill" so it would seem they were from the Netherlands,not Germany.Others were changed to "Grulke" and "Grilke" That's basically all I have for now.But I am waiting to hear from a lady in Tasmania to confirm where the "Grulke's" and "Grill's" are now residing. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Sharron

Sharon, Tell me more about this name change story. Albert Grulke -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 30 March 2002 5:36 To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Light Horse Hi Albert, My great grandfather was in the 1st light horse brigade. I sent away for his service records,and I was amazed at just how much information I received from them.Perhaps it might be well worth sending away for your Uncle's records? Kind regards, Sharron Grilk P.S I'm in the middle of family tree research ,and I have been told that the "Grilk's" changed their name to "Grulke" at some stage.Do you have any info that would assist me? ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237