Hi List, My german interests are: Martin Mudra, his wife Anna and their son Matthes who arrived in Adelaide from Prussia in 1858 and moved to victoria 2 years later. and Louis Becker who arrived from Frankfurt Germany in 1857 in Victoria. Louis left his parents and a brother behind in Germany. Also does anybody know anything about ordering inquest information. I have the reference numbers but I am not sure where to order them from. Rosie _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

> Louis Becker who arrived from Frankfurt Germany in 1857 in Victoria. WHICH Frankfurt ? With TWO cities in Germany named Frankfurt, "Frankfurt, Germany" simply does not do. Even the Germans in Germany tack on the name of the river, on which each is located, to discern one from the other: Frankfurt am Main (Frankfurt on Main) in Hessen, and Frankfurt an der Oder (Frankfurt on Oder) in Brandenburg In common usage, they are shortened to Frankfurt/M and Frankfurt/O

Hi all, my main interest is the above surname variations in Victoria & NSW mainly, but some may be in Sth Aust. My Ernst Schrader came to Moreton Bay 1866 on Beausite , married in Sydney 1870 to Lydia Douglas & had 6 daughters between 1870 & 1884. Can only find birth entries for 4 dtrs ! Middle 2 girls , Florence A Schrader b circa 1875 ,not found Ellen / Helen Schrader b circa 1878 , not found...would appreciate some help with these 2. Ernst was in GAOL feb 1873 when his 2nd daughter was born in Sydney at the Benevolent Asylum !!! Any helpful tips on how to locate "naughty ancestors" prison records ? I think he was already married or a father back in Osterode or Dudestradt ,Germany, where he was a Basketmaker. This baby Lydia Schrader b1873 , had a dtr Lillian Rich, who was in films with Reginald Denny in Australia & America..any hints on how to find more about her ? This is an elusive family but Ernst is supposed to have had 7 brothers , I want to believe that some of them came to Australia too. Yvonne in Melbourne Y & P Marshall

Ok I'll join you Ainslee. My research interest are - HAEFFNER - Christian who arrived in 1853 into Sydney walked down to northeast Victoria and stayed there. Born in Leibenstadt Baden in 1832 July 25th. He married Mary Conway born Co Clare Ireland circa 1836. Mary died 1896 and Christian died in 1911. HAEFFNER - William didn't marry lived in Omeo district from as far as I can tell, 1860s - Arrived in 1854. Brother to Christian above. Didn't marry so don't expect anyone to connect here, but would be nice to find someone who has some information. If anyone does find a link, please contact me I have much tos hare Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Franke > Hi all, > You all seem a bit quiet lately so i thought i'd put a request forward. Any information on the Franke family of Victoria, especially geelong, appreciated, they came from Prussia, check out my page below, thanks, Your List Manager, Ainslee > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/ > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi all, You all seem a bit quiet lately so i thought i'd put a request forward. Any information on the Franke family of Victoria, especially geelong, appreciated, they came from Prussia, check out my page below, thanks, Your List Manager, Ainslee http://www.ainsleehooper.com/

Hello, I am researching the family of Charles Frederick Korner and Sarah Elizabeth Prangley. They were married in Roma, QLD in 1871. They had five children - Mary Elizabeth, Edward Charles, Adeline Sophia, Ernest Victor (died an infant) and Charles Frederick (junior) - born in Roma and Cardwell. Charles Frederick (senior) died in Cardwell in 1881. He emigrated from Stuttgardt in 1864 as Carl Friedrich Korner. Sarah came from England (London/Surrey?). I would love to hear from anyone with a connection somewhere. I would also appreciate it if someone could help me with information about how to trace a naturalisation record, if there would have been one at this time. Was a name change a legal process? Thanks, Sandy

I recently received a Transcription of the Registration of Birth for Frederick George Koch EINAM, son of William EINAM (previously von Einem) and Adelaide nee KEMP, b. 18 Jun 1884 Maryland, NSW. (Near present-day Stanthorpe, Q.) A Mrs PEHULTZ attended the birth. (No other details provided eg. Christian name.) This woman was not related to the EINAM family, but was most likely a friend/neighbour. Am happy to provide a photocopy of this Transcription to anyone interested in the PEHULTZ line. (Would help 'place' this woman/family at Maryland c. early 1880s.) Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged or subject to copyright. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, please do not read, copy, distribute or otherwise act upon this e-mail. If you have received the e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the e-mail. The unauthorised use of this e-mail may result in liability for breach of confidentiality, privilege or copyright. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes. Corporations Law Section 849 Declaration - The Directors of Wilson HTM Ltd (A.B.N. 68 010 529 665) advise that they and their associates may have beneficial interests in the securities that they recommend and may receive commissions or fees in relation to dealings in these securities. Whilst Wilson HTM Ltd believes the information contained in this communication is based on reliable information, no warranty is given as to its accuracy and persons relying on this information do so at their own risk. Any projections contained in this communication are estimates only and may not be realised in the future. Subject to any liability which cannot be excluded under the Trade Practices Act, 1974 and the Corporations Law, Wilson HTM Ltd disclaims all liability to any person relying on the information contained in this communication in respect of any loss or damage (including consequential loss or damage) however caused, which may be suffered or arise directly or indirectly in respect of such information. This communication was prepared for multiple distribution and does not take account of the specific investment objectives of individual recipients and it may not be appropriate in all circumstances. Persons relying on this information should do so in light of their specific investment objectives and financial situations. Persons considering action on the basis of this communication are advised to contact Wilson HTM Ltd for individual advice in the light of their particular circumstances. This communication is not to be disclosed in whole or part or used by any other party without Wilson HTM Ltd's prior written consent. The Wilson HTM Privacy statement is available for you to view on our web-site at www.wilsonhtm.com.au

CEMETERY INDEX This is a index of graves that photo's are held in my database collected on a recent trip to north Queensland. Photo's come from Proserpine, Bowen, Belgian Gardens Townsville, Halifax, Ingham, Lynd Cemetery Charters Towers, & Pioneer Cemetry Charters Towers. (date deceased & age come from headstone inscription) Not all these Headstones are in my family tree. I also bought the index of graves in the Pioneer Cemetery Charters Towers if anyone would like a lookup. PROSERPINE CEMETERY Charles BROOKER 5/1/81 78 Eveline F BROOKER 29/9/1978 59 Lavinia LONGLAND 28/6/1961 72 parents of Edna?? Walter LONGLAND 13/8/1965 88 parents of Edna?? Majorie STANILAND 29/11/1948 62 same gave Frank STANILAND 26/3/1954 74 Albert Leslie PARADIES 21/4/1976 45 Edward Henery PARADIES 5/12/1980 66 Frank BAKER 17/2/1987 84 Gertrude BAKER 9/9/1998 88 Elizabeth E BOWMAN 26/9/87 3 John Gerard MURPHY 2/10/1989 48 John Frederick PARADIES 29/4/89 74 Archibald W BAKER 30/6/1986 78 BOWEN CEMETERY Edna Joyce WISKAR-GREEN 1974 Ayr Cemetry Louis Albert TURNER Arthur (Butler) TURNER 15/12/1935 71 Augusta TURNER 20/5/1945 74 nee SIMON Belgian Gardens Townsville Henrietta C SIMON 14/1/1921 85 Emily PARADISE 10/4/1944 86 John Edward PARADISE 2/5/1962 79 Halifax Cemetery Thomas ADAMS 5/8/1963 86 William ADAMS 20/11/1962 Sarah Ann ADAMS 31/10/1959 Bertha Annie ADAMS 6/2/1952 74 Herman August BURR 17/11/1951 71 Douglas WISKAR 13/12/1923 21 Isabella Frances WISKAR 2/9/1952 76 John Pescod Wiskar 16/11/1925 59 Mary CAHILL 27/9/1986 82 E B F "Nell" MUNSON 1961 80 Peter Graeme CHALMERS 24/5/1991 38 Thomas Ronald WISKAR 1986 82 Evelyn FULTON 5/10/1986 75 nee BURR Joseph Joe Herman FULTON 28/8/1998 95 Alfred James COCKING 4/5/1994 79 same grave Elizabeth Leousia COCKING 10/4/1983 63 same grave Charles ADAMS 10/10/1980 73 Ingham Cemetry Evelyn May MUNSON 1993 80 Lawrence Edward BURR 17/11/1988 57 Rosalind ADAMS 14/3/1983 46 William Tully (Bill) ADAMS 20/5/1991 79 same grave Emily Theresa ADAMS 3/9/1995 82 same grave Lynd Cemetery Charters Towers Henry Edward PARADISE 19/8/1925 74 number only Francis BERR 16/12/1913 78 number only Arthur TURNER 13/7/1899 47 August PARADIES 22/4/1898 62 Caroline PARADIES 2/8/1921 88 nee BIRR James HAND 28/6/1897 43 Philip HAND 19/12/1913 56 Friederich PFIEFFER 11/3/1903 70 Clarence C PARADISE 14/2/1927 number only Constance Catherine BURR 18/2/1990 95 Pioneer Cemetery Charters Towers Anna Theresa Friederieke PARADIES 16/8/1889 24 nee BAHR Christian August PARADIES 6/9/1887 60 same grave Friedericke PARADIES 10/7/1887 56 same grave Matilde Henriette PARADIES 17/1/1876 2 same grave Auguste Christiane PARADIES 6/6/1888 26 nee RECK Ernest PFIEFFER 16/9/1888 Eduard Wilhelm Carl PARADIES 30/4/1887 43 same grave Bertha Adeline Rosa PARADIES 8/10/1887 1 same grave Regards Derek

Hi Ainslee! Hope it all comes together OK for you in the end. Check out the available help & info at the Rootsweb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/ Also go to your local library who most probably have a book on the subject, but also look at how other family histories or just other books eg. local history, school history have been put together. Visit your local newsagent and check out what Family History magazines are available - there may be one on writing up your history, or just see how others have put short articles together that are about their family. Bookshops may have books on the subject, also some Genealogical Societies run workshops on various subjects, find out if there's one happening soon that will help. Anyone from a local society would put you on the right track. You will find lists in some of the Australian Family History Magazines or on their web sites. Hope this is helpful. Chris C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] help??

Dear Ainslee, I wonder if you are trying to write a narrative of the life of your ancestor or if you are trying to put the family genealogy (descendancy) in the book? I have compiled two books for my family and they were essentially descendancy oriented. I did this because I have no contact with the people who knew my ancestors - they died long before I was aware that I had ancestors..........so a collection of the genealogy of the descendants was prepared for them. There are two kinds of these books that could have been done. One way is to just mention the names of the descendants - no dates, no places and the other way is to include the names, dates of birth, marriage and death as well as place of the events. In the first example, someone coming along after you would have no idea if they had the right family or the right time period or the right location. Especially so if the surname is a common name and a number of families of that name were known to reside in the area. I am related to the SCHULTZ and TROST names and there are a number of families of that name in the area where I was born but all of them descend from different pioneer families.....so it is important to me to find the correct family to do my research. Without any identifying information other than a name, it would be extremely difficult to be assured one had the correct family. In the second example, there is no doubt as to which family you refer. Full names, dates and places of events are of more use to those who come after us to be able to identify the correct family and then continue the research. However, there are some people who do not want their births, marriages and places of those events published in a book. To my way of thinking this is a silly attitude. The government knows when and where one was born or married. The postman knows where they currently live as does the phone company, the plumber, the school district, the city council worker to send rate notices and the election committee for the electoral rolls and the list goes on............. In today's society Privacy is not an option. If you wish to just write a narrative, that is a story of the family and its doings, then it might require loads of enquiry and much research into the history of the area from which they came and the area's in which they live. That seems like an overwhelming task since there might be a real scarcity of information or there might be more stuff than you can poke a stick at. Either you will have a book of two or three pages or a book of over 1,000 pages depending on the amount of information available. A poll of your relatives might be unproductive because you will probably end up with as many opinions as you have relatives. Go with your instincts - you are the writer and it is your family. hope this helps, Beverly. [email protected]

Ainslee If you go into any Genealogical Library you will see hundreds of Family Histories in various formats. There is also a good book "How to write a Non Boring Family History", which could be helpful. Yvonne Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] help?? > Hi all, > as i'm now attempting to write a family history was wondering if anyone had any ideas, i'm trying to do one about my 7g grandfather and his descendants, just wondering how far out i should branch out? i'm getting a bit lost as i have heaps of information, the book is currently over 100 pages, does anyone have an idea of a format to stick to to make sure it doesn't get outof control ilike it is, thanks in advance, Ainslee > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/ > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Ainslee, no advice from me , but, good luck with it Yvonne in Melbourne , hoping to write a family history too Y & P Marshall

Hi all, as i'm now attempting to write a family history was wondering if anyone had any ideas, i'm trying to do one about my 7g grandfather and his descendants, just wondering how far out i should branch out? i'm getting a bit lost as i have heaps of information, the book is currently over 100 pages, does anyone have an idea of a format to stick to to make sure it doesn't get outof control ilike it is, thanks in advance, Ainslee http://www.ainsleehooper.com/

Hi Nikki, I have Stegmanns on my Willert side who originated from around Brisbane/Beenleigh. 3 Stegmanns married 2 brothers and a sister. Please contact me on [email protected] for further information. Regards Allison ----- Original Message ----- From: "NFrancis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] WAHRY, STEGMANN, KNOLL, JAKOBSEN > This has also been posted to the Brisbane list so apologies to those who've got it twice. > > Is anyone else researching any of these families who lived in Brisbane at the end of the 19th century? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who is. > Thanks > Niki Francis > Wellington > New Zealand > > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Niki, I have some people from Woltersdorf but it is the Woltersdorf close to the German/Polish Border. On my map there are 4 towns called Woltersdorf. My suggestion to you is to try to find out which Kreis the town belonged that y our ancestors came from. Mine were in Kreis RANDOW which now longer exists and I am told that this has become Kreis ANGERMUNDE. My ancestors came from Hohenselchow, Pinnow, Casekow, Woltersdorf - all towns that were close to each other and for 50 yrs of last century, were under Communist rule and as a result many of the church records of my ancestors have been lost. So the best suggestion I can come up with for you is to try to determine from whatever sources may be available to you, which Kreis they came from and then you can successfully pin down which Woltersdorf is the ancestral town. cheers, Beverly.

This has also been posted to the Brisbane list so apologies to those who have got it twice. Does anyone else have ancestors who went to Brisbane from Woltersdorf in Pommern. It seems that mine did but I'm having a lot of difficulty in identifying just which Woltersdorf as there are several. Can anyone advise me on how to pin down which one it might be? I've tried searching the web but unfortunately haven't found any clues. My great grandparents, Wilhelm Carl WAHRY and Auguste Louisa Charlotte MEIER went to Nundah in 1888 with their 6 or 7 children and apparently came from Woltersdorf. Thanks Niki Francis Wellington New Zealand [email protected]

This has also been posted to the Brisbane list so apologies to those who've got it twice. Is anyone else researching any of these families who lived in Brisbane at the end of the 19th century? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who is. Thanks Niki Francis Wellington New Zealand [email protected]

hello this is my first posting to this list. I am researching the surnames Lechner,Hahn,Keller,Kehler,Frisch.Simmons. if anyopne elese has these names please contact me Via the list or at [email protected] thanks.

Hi I've just been on holiday in Brisbane (and loved the warm temperatures!!). I did a search through Nundah Historical Cemetery for my great grandparents and others (Wahry/Vahry, Stegmann, Knoll, Jakobsen) and did notice a few Schmalz graves there. The Nundah Historical Society is very helpful and has a list of graves (although I discovered it's not complete as I found other graves which hadn't actualy been listed) so if you don't live in Brisbane and can't easily get to the cemetery you could try contacting them on 3260 6703 or you could phone the sexton (who's actually based at a bigger cemetery but is responsible for the Nundah one) on 3403 5935. From memory, when you walk in the main entrance of the cemetery if you take the path to the right of the little rotunda/shed thing there are a cluster of Schmalz graves up there somewhere on the left. Good luck! Hope this helps Niki Francis Wellington, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Sailer > Hi > Looking for info on the following surnames - > Sailer, Noffke, Schmalz,Zeith > > Carl Noffke Born 1827 married Caroline Jaknissh (spelling could be wrong) > Freimans Zeith born about 1826 married Ernestine Holmann > Frederich Sailer born about 1821 married Christina Kraft > Wilhelm Schmalz born about 1827 married Johanna Stenzel > All of the above immigrated to Australia > Regards Elaine > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks for you help Nikki Will look into it Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "NFrancis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] Schmalz > Hi > I've just been on holiday in Brisbane (and loved the warm temperatures!!). I > did a search through Nundah Historical Cemetery for my great grandparents > and others (Wahry/Vahry, Stegmann, Knoll, Jakobsen) and did notice a few > Schmalz graves there. The Nundah Historical Society is very helpful and has > a list of graves (although I discovered it's not complete as I found other > graves which hadn't actualy been listed) so if you don't live in Brisbane > and can't easily get to the cemetery you could try contacting them on 3260 > 6703 or you could phone the sexton (who's actually based at a bigger > cemetery but is responsible for the Nundah one) on 3403 5935. > From memory, when you walk in the main entrance of the cemetery if you take > the path to the right of the little rotunda/shed thing there are a cluster > of Schmalz graves up there somewhere on the left. > Good luck! Hope this helps > Niki Francis > Wellington, New Zealand > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:09 PM > Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Sailer > > > > Hi > > Looking for info on the following surnames - > > Sailer, Noffke, Schmalz,Zeith > > > > Carl Noffke Born 1827 married Caroline Jaknissh (spelling could be wrong) > > Freimans Zeith born about 1826 married Ernestine Holmann > > Frederich Sailer born about 1821 married Christina Kraft > > Wilhelm Schmalz born about 1827 married Johanna Stenzel > > All of the above immigrated to Australia > > Regards Elaine > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/2002