Ainslee--I use Legacy 5.0 deluxe. although I haven't actually used the Family group section , there is the facility to do this plus a heap of other excellent sections-- John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ainslee Hooper" <arhooper@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] research techniques > Hi all, > > Thought I'd just post again regarding my recent post of research > techniques. I've had some responses, and all agree, including myself, that > it would be great to hear everyones different research techniques, and > record keeping. I myself prefer to use my computer, although I do have a > paper index card system, for bdm certificates. I am thinking of doing a > family group record sheet system, but I have over 4000 individuals. So it > would be a bit pricey. I just need a way to determine how to figure out my > to do list based on the 4000 plus individuals. Is there a program that can > do this? Ainslee > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l & deller-l > www.ainsleehooper.com <http://www.ainsleehooper.com/> > GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide. > > > > > >

Hi all, Thought I'd just post again regarding my recent post of research techniques. I've had some responses, and all agree, including myself, that it would be great to hear everyones different research techniques, and record keeping. I myself prefer to use my computer, although I do have a paper index card system, for bdm certificates. I am thinking of doing a family group record sheet system, but I have over 4000 individuals. So it would be a bit pricey. I just need a way to determine how to figure out my to do list based on the 4000 plus individuals. Is there a program that can do this? Ainslee _______________________________________________ List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l & deller-l www.ainsleehooper.com <http://www.ainsleehooper.com/> GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide.

Welcome back Ainslee - when I have been away from my "stuff" for a while I concentrate on one family at a time - clear up the backlog for them and proceed to the next . I always start with the smallest pile too - makes me feel better when 1 is done etc . Yvonne marshall in Melbourne

Hi all, Things seem a bit quiet lately, and I'm slowly getting back on top of things. I'm just curious as to what people do when they've been away from their stuff for ages, and come back and seem overwhelmed. I'm not sure where to start again? Any advice appreciated. Also it would be great to reply to the list as I hope others would find this information helpful, thanks in advance, Ainslee _______________________________________________ List Administrator of Aus-german-l & hooper-ons-l & deller-l www.ainsleehooper.com <http://www.ainsleehooper.com/> GOONS #3895 Hooper, worldwide.

Good morning Listers, I am hoping SKS could assist me regarding the passengers arriving on the immigrant sailing ship "Herman Von Beckerath". I am trying to find out if the parents of Bertha Frederica Louise Mueller (born Rostock - Germany) and her brother Baron Sir Ferdinand Jakob Heinrich von Mueller where on board this ship. Their parents were Frederick and Louise Mueller (nee Mertens). The German immigration ship arrived in Port Adelaide on 18.12.1847. Bertha's brother had left Germany for health reasons, and I am not sure if it was only his sister that accompanied him to the Colony or were the parents also with him. Ferdinand von Müller was appointed Government Botanist in the Colony of Victoria and from 1857-73 he was director of the Melbourne Botanical Gardens and was a well-known personality. He travelled extensively in Australia collecting specimens of animal and plant life and classifying them for the scientific world. Several of his suggestions had practical benefits for agriculture in Australia. He was one of Australia's great pioneers of exploration and science. Dr Mueller received honours from many of the ruling Royal Houses of Europe; he was made a Baron by the King of Württemberg in 1871, and knighted by Queen Victoria. Kind regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney

Oh Siegfried......I just didn't have you to tell me how to get in touch with the Othfresen Soccer Club!!!!! Now that I have that address of course, I shall write immediately to all my cousins. I did try the telephone directory, wrote numerous letters with IRC's, got nary an answer. Even Google didn't work for me. Please don't go off the list - you may get a desperate plea for a translation. Thank you soooooo much for your help. Joan (Victoria) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Siegfried Rambaum" <siram@lightlink.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:13 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Othfresen > > How did you do it? I am still searching after 5 years for my family from > > Othfresen in Prussia....no success yet. > > What is your problem with that search ???? There is only one location with > that name in the whole wide world. You are blessed with such a location!! > > Othfresen: > ---------- > Kreis (county): Goslar > State.........: Niedersachsen [Lower Saxony] (current) > ............... Province of Hannover, state of Prussia (till 1945) > ............... Kingdom of Hannover (till 1866) > > Webpages: > > Voluntary Fire Company Othfresen: > www.feuerwehr-othfresen.de/ > > Evangelical-Lutheran Parish of Othfresen: > www.kircheothfresen.de/ > www.kircheothfresen.de/Kirchengemeinde/ Orte/Othfresen/othfresen.html > > Soccer Club Othfresen > www.fcothfresen.de/ > > Board of Continuing Education Goslar, Othfresen branch > region.tu-clausthal.de/vhs/othfrese.htm > > Bicycler Club "Einigkeit (= Unity)" of 1911, Othfresen > www.rce-othfresen.de/ > > Heimatstube Othfresen > www.arendi.de/ Heimatstube%20Othfresen/Heimatstube-Main.htm > > plus 1,514 other webpages relating to Othfresen. Lots of stuff, most of them > presumably in German. But click through the first 100, look for the keywords > Gästebuch, Nachricht, Kontakt ... and leave a note there of the kind: > > Hi there from Australia. My ancestors are from Othfresen. Their names > were abc and xyz, and they emigrated to Australia in the year such-and- > such. Would you have an idea .... etc. etc. etc. > > The Heimatstube webpage might be the most promissing starting point. The > lutheran parish might also be worthwhile to be contacted and asked. > > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Claire and List Members, The Hamburg emigration list records Heinrich PFAHL, 18, as departing Hamburg aboard "La Rochelle" for Moreton Bay in 1863. He was recorded as being from Bürg in Würtemberg with occupation Maler (painter). Note that the place of origin was Bürg, not Burg. My Auto Atlas shows one Bürg north of Stuttgart, about 12 km north of Heilbronn and now part of Neuenstadt am Kocher. Another is about 20 km north east of Stuttgart and now part of Winnenden. Greetings from Brisbane Eric Kopittke > > From: "lyndon" <lyndon@wa1.quik.com.au> > Date: Mon Aug 9, 2004 5:31:55 PM Australia/Brisbane > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: A town called BURG > > > Hi listers > I thought i'd try my luck with you for this. On my husbands > ggrandfather's natralisation papers it has him down as coming from > BURG. Is this its full name or an abbreviation.Also it looks as if he > was in Australia just a short time but he had actually come into > Australia via Queensland not NSW. So all the shipping info is wrong. > Yours in searching for Pfahl's > Claire > Perth, WA

Hi listers I thought i'd try my luck with you for this. On my husbands ggrandfather's natralisation papers it has him down as coming from BURG. Is this its full name or an abbreviation.Also it looks as if he was in Australia just a short time but he had actually come into Australia via Queensland not NSW. So all the shipping info is wrong. Yours in searching for Pfahl's Claire Perth, WA

> How did you do it? I am still searching after 5 years for my family from > Othfresen in Prussia....no success yet. What is your problem with that search ???? There is only one location with that name in the whole wide world. You are blessed with such a location!! Othfresen: ---------- Kreis (county): Goslar State.........: Niedersachsen [Lower Saxony] (current) ............... Province of Hannover, state of Prussia (till 1945) ............... Kingdom of Hannover (till 1866) Webpages: Voluntary Fire Company Othfresen: www.feuerwehr-othfresen.de/ Evangelical-Lutheran Parish of Othfresen: www.kircheothfresen.de/ www.kircheothfresen.de/Kirchengemeinde/ Orte/Othfresen/othfresen.html Soccer Club Othfresen www.fcothfresen.de/ Board of Continuing Education Goslar, Othfresen branch region.tu-clausthal.de/vhs/othfrese.htm Bicycler Club "Einigkeit (= Unity)" of 1911, Othfresen www.rce-othfresen.de/ Heimatstube Othfresen www.arendi.de/ Heimatstube%20Othfresen/Heimatstube-Main.htm plus 1,514 other webpages relating to Othfresen. Lots of stuff, most of them presumably in German. But click through the first 100, look for the keywords Gästebuch, Nachricht, Kontakt ... and leave a note there of the kind: Hi there from Australia. My ancestors are from Othfresen. Their names were abc and xyz, and they emigrated to Australia in the year such-and- such. Would you have an idea .... etc. etc. etc. The Heimatstube webpage might be the most promissing starting point. The lutheran parish might also be worthwhile to be contacted and asked.

Hi all I am stuck with the maps (yet again) and hope sks can help me pls. I have a husband and wife originating from Sehnets, Silesia and Lederose, Silesia respectively. I can't find either place. I can find Silesia on a map but can't get a close up of the area to see the villages. Also, I potentially have the mother of the husband coming from Kunzendorf, Prussia and am hoping that its in the same area to confirm that its probably his mother. Any help greatly appreciated. Sherry

Interesting link for everyone below - has hundreds of names on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones, Colin N <Colin.N.Jones@team.telstra.com> To: M & S Sjolander <sjol1@bigpond.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: RE: finding the German village Sherry, Can you send this to AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com as someone there may have some additional advice for you, I should have replied to you on that list as well. The names were taken from a list I googled to (nice word that - a bit like "hoovering") at http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/BRG/neumark/auswanzu.htm and headed "Auszug aus der Kartei mit Auswanderern aus dem Regierungsbezirk Frankfurt des Brandenburgischen Landeshauptarchivs, zum Stichwort Kr. Züllichau: Name;Age;Occupation;Place of Origin;Destination;Year" there is also an old atlas on the web called "Atlas des Deutschen Reichs" http://www.library.wisc.edu/etext/ravenstein/home.html which may be of assistance, but doesn't tell us where "Niederwitz" is. cheers Col -----Original Message----- From: M & S Sjolander [mailto:sjol1@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 7 August 2004 8:09 AM To: Jones, Colin N Subject: Re: finding the German village Yes they are my relatives! Thank you very much for that. So I guess I need to be looking in Poland for records? Wow it gets complicated fast doesn't it? Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones, Colin N <Colin.N.Jones@team.telstra.com> To: M & S Sjolander <sjol1@bigpond.com> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: RE: finding the German village Are these your people? Schwaebsch, August;52;Maurer;Niederwitz/Zuellichau;Sued-Australien;1849 Schwaebsch, geb. Grund, Juliane;33;Frau von August;Niederwitz/Zuellichau;Sued-Australien;1849 Schwaebsch, Karl August Robert;7;Kind von August;Niederwitz/Zuellichau;Sued-Australien;1849 Schwaebsch, Karl Friedrich Theodor;9;Kind von August;Niederwitz/Zuellichau;Sued-Australien;1849 If they are then your people then Cunersdorf (all 3) is too far west and south. Zuellichau is now called Sulechow, is now part of Poland (it was part of Prussia back in 1849). Saxony also appeared to be a moveable feast depending on who won the wars between the princes. cheers Col -----Original Message----- From: M & S Sjolander [mailto:sjol1@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 11:24 AM To: Jones, Colin N Subject: Re: finding the German village Hi Col I have found that my ggg grandfather (August Schwaebsch) came from Cunersdorf in Prussia but apparently there are heaps of villages/towns with this name. I am going to have to do another post soon when I sort out which town it is exactly. At the moment, it appears Saxony is the most likely bet, but there are 2 lots of Cunersdorfs in Saxony so it may take some time to sort out. Cheers Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones, Colin N <Colin.N.Jones@team.telstra.com> To: M & S Sjolander <sjol1@bigpond.com>; <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: RE: finding the German village Hi Sherry, What info do you have and are you prepared to put it on the list? Sometimes given a name, a ship and date of arrival or some other info can be plugged itno someone elses studies to at least give you a person who exists. cheers Col -----Original Message----- From: M & S Sjolander [mailto:sjol1@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:17 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: finding the German village Hi all I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. Cheers Sherry ______________________________

Hello Sherry, How did you do it? I am still searching after 5 years for my family from Othfresen in Prussia....no success yet. Congratulations Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & S Sjolander" <sjol1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Finally found Moritz Heiner > Hi all > > Thank you to everyone who helped me with the search for Moritz Heiner and his wife Johanne Hanke. I finally purchased the marriage certificate and discovered that Moritz is from Lehnets, Lilesia in Prussia and his parents are Carl Heiner and Dorothea Schultz. Johanne is from Lederose, Lilesia in Prussia and her parents are Carl Hanke and Johanne Christiene Spreu. So at least I have something to go on now. > > Thanks again for everyone's help! > > Cheers > Sherry > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all Thank you to everyone who helped me with the search for Moritz Heiner and his wife Johanne Hanke. I finally purchased the marriage certificate and discovered that Moritz is from Lehnets, Lilesia in Prussia and his parents are Carl Heiner and Dorothea Schultz. Johanne is from Lederose, Lilesia in Prussia and her parents are Carl Hanke and Johanne Christiene Spreu. So at least I have something to go on now. Thanks again for everyone's help! Cheers Sherry

Hi all I am stuck for the moment on one branch of the family tree, so I thought I would start on another in the meantime. I am searching for a Moritz HEINER who died in 1912 in East Brunswick Melbourne Australia. He was married to Johanna Christina HANKE and his mother's name was Dorothy HEINER, but I have no father's name. I have checked the shipping records coming to Australia and can't find him arriving here, nor can I find a birth certificate for him in Victoria. Any leads greatly appreciated. Cheers Sherry

Hi all Does anyone know if the first name "Gerhard" could reasonably be translated to "Christopher" in English? Trying to work out if a reference to a relative is the same person. Thanks Sherry

Hi Sherry, What info do you have and are you prepared to put it on the list? Sometimes given a name, a ship and date of arrival or some other info can be plugged itno someone elses studies to at least give you a person who exists. cheers Col -----Original Message----- From: M & S Sjolander [mailto:sjol1@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:17 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: finding the German village Hi all I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. Cheers Sherry ______________________________

It can depend on how they came here and what they did when they got here! If they became naturalized Australian citizens they could have listed their birthplace on their application form, but this depends on which state and when they applied. One of mine just put Prussia (great help) BUT they usually had to put when and on which ship they arrived. If you are lucky they will travelled through Hamburg directly to Australia and then you can look at the Hamburg Shipping lists, this will tell you their age when they left and native place (usually their birthplace). Perhaps you could give us their names and see if anyone else out there is looking for them too. Good Luck Regards Gillian -----Original Message----- From: M & S Sjolander [mailto:sjol1@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:17 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] finding the German village Hi all I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. Cheers Sherry ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Sherry, I suggest you apply to the National Archives (Australia) for a record of naturalisation. If you ask for the certificate and the supporting papers you can be very lucky with the detail that was provided. OR - for the first marriage in Australia, write to that (Lutheran probably) church for the forms completed for the pastor for the marriage. I've found that these give good detail of German/Prussian origins. Regards, Netta On 05/08/2004, at 1:48 PM, Joan Aspinall wrote: Hello Sherry, the only way I did it was to find their names on a passenger list. Mine was HEIKE from Othfresen on the Suzanne Godeffroy 1863 from Hamburg. The real difficulty comes when you try to find details from Germany. I wish you luck. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & S Sjolander" <sjol1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] finding the German village > Hi all > > I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany > (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. > > Cheers > Sherry > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello Sherry, the only way I did it was to find their names on a passenger list. Mine was HEIKE from Othfresen on the Suzanne Godeffroy 1863 from Hamburg. The real difficulty comes when you try to find details from Germany. I wish you luck. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & S Sjolander" <sjol1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] finding the German village > Hi all > > I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. > > Cheers > Sherry > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all I have found that my great great grandfathers were born in Germany (then Prussia) and I was hoping someone could advise me on how I find out which village they are from please? Any advice appreciated. Cheers Sherry