Thank you so much to everyone who has tried and has helped me so much. I know there are a number of questions that need to be answered. I have the morning off work and will absorb all the information you have given me and answer the questions. In the mean time I just wanted to say thanks so much - will be back in a couple of hours with some answers - I hope! Regards Kim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CandROverson Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 8:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] McCarter Kim Where did you get his birth and parent details from? There is no record on Scotlands People of the birth of a John McCarter (or McArthur) to Thomas and Fanny (or Frances) - in Dundee or elsewhere in Scotland between 1800 and 1854. This doesn't necessarily mean that your details are wrong. The pre-1855 birth and marriage records are sourced from the parish records of the (established) Church of Scotland. Pre-1855 Roman Catholic and other Church records are not on the Scotland's People site - yet. They are promised. I couldn't find a record for a marriage for Thomas and Fanny (Frances) either. "Fanny" is not a very Scottish usage. It tends to appear more in England. Numbers of McCarters in the 1841 Scotland Census were born in Ireland. So it could be that your Thomas and Fanny were Irish born, and married in Ireland? Was your John a Catholic? Regards Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim and Daz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:37 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] McCarter >I am so much at a loss - and thank you so much Max for trying your best to > help me. I am trying in vain to do my family tree, but there just seems > to > be people who existed, but are nowhere to be found anywhere as far as > birth/marriage/death records are concerned. > > I have no concrete information, but was always told by my uncles (who are > sadly now all deceased) that we are definitely convicts and they went so > far > as to tell me that it was for stealing bread. I have traced back to a > John > McCarter who was born in Dundee Scotland in 1822 but I cant find him > anywhere as a convict or really any information about him. There is a > John > McCarter who was a convict, but he arrived in about 1832 and I know there > is > sometimes a query on ages, but that would make my John 10 years old and I > doubt he could have passed for someone in their 20's. His parents were > Thomas and Fanny and I have no information on them or whether there were > other children. "My" John married Isabella Hicks on 25th June, 1859, she > was born in 1839, but that is the extent of the information I have for > her, > other than their children were John born in 1861 and Fanny in 1859. > > There does seem to be some info on the Scotlands People website, but I > cant > view it unless I pay for it and just at the moment I cant afford to pay > for > something that might not even be relevant. > > If anyone could help with any info and how these people could just > disappear > without death or burial notices, or how John got to Australia I would so > much appreciate it. > > Cheers > Kim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message