Robyn I am following John's suggested links and it's not easy to get back to Robert's parents. Do you know of any researchers who can assist as I am in Tennant Creek and research data here is thin on the ground. By the way, several years ago I was doing research at University of Canberra and there were two lecturers in adjoin offices named Drs Gross and Klein. Neither spoke any German and did not get the significance of large and small until I told them of the coincidence. Phil in very warm and dry Tennant Creek - 43 C. -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robyn Gross Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2008 7:31 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert WINTERS JOhn, I have to agree that the numbers would be few but In my researach I have found a married couple who emigrated in 1842 to Port Phillip, and another batchelor who came from Scotland in 1840 married a settlers daughter in 1842.. Two early lines have convict connections and other early lines are descended from soldiers who accompanied the convicts and stayed. Thes are particularly hard to research and document and seem to be a field in which little extensive research has been published. So just looking at my own tree in which I have tracked the arrival of all my ancestors of the pre 1850 arrivals, two were descended from soldiers, two had convict fathers, 8 individuals were free settlers. This would indicate 30% convict background for my family tree. Accurate statistics would be impossible to acertain. regards Robyn in warm and wet Wodonga ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message