Phil, There were a lot of free settlers who arrived in the late 1820's and after that. You have not provided sufficient information to be able to assist. I cannot find a child born named Robert Winter (Winters, Wynter, Wynter) to anyone in the records in that time frame. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil West Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:32 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert WINTERS Lesley If a child was born in Melbourne in 1839-41, what chance would they being born of free non-convict parents? Phil

Lesley My Grandmother was Ada May Winters born 1881 in Temora NSW to Robert Winters and Caroline (nee Bates b 1848, Bethnalgreen, London) who arrived on the Beejapore in 14 May 1857, I believe in Sydney. Caroline recorded Ada May's birth and states Robert (no middle name) was born in Melbourne in 1839 and he died in Sydney 18 Jan 1913. Robert was a gold miner and they were apparently married in Beechworth, Victoria. That, and a photo and a family myth he came from Ireland, is all I've got. Any suggestions would be appreciated after two seemingly wrong tracks. Phil -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Tuesday, 16 December 2008 8:03 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert WINTERS Phil, There were a lot of free settlers who arrived in the late 1820's and after that. You have not provided sufficient information to be able to assist. I cannot find a child born named Robert Winter (Winters, Wynter, Wynter) to anyone in the records in that time frame. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil West Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:32 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert WINTERS Lesley If a child was born in Melbourne in 1839-41, what chance would they being born of free non-convict parents? Phil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Phil I did search through the Vital Records CD for a registration in any state around 1839 - perhaps he was not registered. I did check under Winters, Winter, Wynter and Wynters. I did find an interesting article in the Northern Territory Times and Gazette of 25 September 1913 - the date of death is the same year but a different month. I am certain it was him as Ada married Bertram West. ""Family Notices DEATH. WINTERS-On the 18th September. 1913. at the residence of his daughter, Mrs Ada West, 85 King Street. Newtown, Sydney, N.S.W., Robert, the dearly beloved father of R. J. Winters, of Darwin, in his 74th year."" By the look of it his son Robert James Winters was living in the NT at that time. I think I would check the birth certificates of one or more of this other children as they may provide more information.... or may not! His marriage and birth certificates are essential Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil West Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:23 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert WINTERS Lesley My Grandmother was Ada May Winters born 1881 in Temora NSW to Robert Winters and Caroline (nee Bates b 1848, Bethnalgreen, London) who arrived on the Beejapore in 14 May 1857, I believe in Sydney. Caroline recorded Ada May's birth and states Robert (no middle name) was born in Melbourne in 1839 and he died in Sydney 18 Jan 1913. Robert was a gold miner and they were apparently married in Beechworth, Victoria. That, and a photo and a family myth he came from Ireland, is all I've got. Any suggestions would be appreciated after two seemingly wrong tracks. Phil