How many generations ago? One of my convict ancestors is my great great grandfather, Peter Maguire, who was transported in 1829, married Johannah Foley or Murphy who arrived from County Cork in 1836, and settled around Milton on the south coast. His son Peter McGuire married Elen Ferguson, they settled at Tomerong, and their youngest son Peter was my grandfather - he died in the 1960s. A very strong streak of Irish larrikinism is still running very strongly in the family :) Leith -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-convicts-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 4:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 213 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Andrew Hamilton Hume (South Coast Promotions) 2. convicts & generations (Lynette Twist) 3. William day (louise potterton) 4. Re: William day (Lesley Uebel) 5. Hamilton Hume (Lynette Crocker) 6. Re: how many generations ago (Sharon Robertson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:11:33 +1000 From: "South Coast Promotions" <office@scpromotions.com.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Andrew Hamilton Hume To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009001c8f373$89ab6980$0700000a@OFFICEPC1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Iam a descendant of Andrew Hamilton Hume and also via Kennedy line his wife line Elizabeth More Kennedy Cathy Dunn -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Element Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:51 AM To: ozgenie@optusnet.com.au; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convictancestorsonecould have? Hi Scott Thanks for your input. I have a small connection with the Hume family via the Huon's as the two families were connected by marriages in the early pioneer days. Are the Humes in your tree? From those early days I suspect nearly everyone today is related in some way to those pioneers! :) A few large families marrying back and forth over a few generations seems to have done it. If you have data on the Huon's I'd be interested in that, or if you would like what I have? Regards Tom -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Brown Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 10:11 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convict ancestorsonecould have? Tom You are correct. Andrew Hamilton Hume arrived in the colony as a free man with the position of Superintendant of Convicts. He originally embarked on the Guardian but after the sinking of this ship he transferred to the Lady juliana. Some of the notes I have regarding this man are 1782 - Enlisted in the Moira Regiment of Volunteers. He was cashiered in 1786 after being court-martialled over a duel with his commanding officer. After this he was employed as a Superintendent of Convicts on the Thames hulks at Woolwich until August 1789 when he embarked on the HMS Guardian bound for New South Wales. He was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana' at Table Bay following the Guardian's near sinking after striking an iceberg After the 'Guardian' sank, Hume was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana'. He transferred to Norfolk Island on the 'Surprise' in 1790 1792 - Superintendent of Convicts, Norfolk Island March 1793 - Returned to Sydney on the 'Kitty'. Here he was appointed as superintendent at Toongabbie April 1794 - Received a grant of 30 acres at Toongabbie August 1796 - Appeared in court on a charge of raping 11 year old Ann SMITH who had been employed as a servant in his household. Ann had arrived free in NSW with her convict mother on the First Fleet. He was acquitted of the charge after a two day trial March 1796 - Andrew was holding the position of Government Storekeeper at Parramatta 1800 - Dismissed from the position of Superintendent of Livestock by Governor KING 1811 - Received a grant of 100 acres at Appin He was born at Hillsborough, County Down, Ireland on 26 June 1862 to James and Isabella Hume. On 29 September 1796 he married Elizabeth More Kennedy at St John's Parramatta.They had five children being Hamilton, Isabella, John Kennedy, Andrew Hamilton and Francis Rawdon. Andrew Hamilton Hume died at home at "Glenrock" near Marulan on 23 September 1849 and was buried at St Saviour's Church at Bungonia, NSW. Scott Brown > Tom Element <telement@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Christine > > I'm a little confused by your statement which says: Hamilton Hume father > of > Explorer > was a convict. > The explorer was Hamilton Hume and his father was Andrew Hamilton Hume > who > was a Superintendent of Convicts, certainly not a convict. Have I read > something incorrectly? > > Regards > Tom > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 66 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:31:09 +1000 From: "Lynette Twist" <lyntwist@yahoo.com.au> Subject: [AUS-CON] convicts & generations To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601c8f3b0$f462f9e0$dd28eda0$@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear List, I understood the question to be 'how many original convicts do I come from. I have: Thomas PEARCE, 'Coromandel' 1804 Mary PRICE, 'Minstrel' 1812 William HAIGH, 'General Hewitt' 1814 William GAIT, 'Fame' 1817 James WHITNEY, 'Tottenham' 1818 James NYE & son James, 'General Stewart' 1818 Peter LARKIN, 'John Barry' 1821 Ann MCDONNELL, 'Elizabeth' 1828 Thomas RUDD, 'Camden' 1831 Above are my first generation convicts with 2 others to be verified. I have not gone down the married intos. Charles BIGGS, 'Westmoreland' 1835 Fanny JOHNSON, 'Mary 111' 1835 Catherine BYRNE, 'Minerva' 1839 (aka Mary Ann PURCELL) Daniel SULLIVAN, 'Bangalore' 1848 My husband's direct convicts with 2 others to verify. Lynette ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:54:03 +1000 From: louise potterton <pottertons@msn.com> Subject: [AUS-CON] William day To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY113-W3CD48088FA60D57ECFFB2CB7F0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi Leslie & Listers , My ancestor is William Day,Father of Marcellas day b 1802 Sydney Apparently he was part of the NSW corps and was granted land in 1819 in Camden. I cant find record listing what ship he came in on or a true record of his wife Can You please help? Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460 _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2 Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fa i%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:08:47 +1000 From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William day To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <OGEELKEHANIHLMOJNLCJOEFEPHAA.ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Louise That William Day arrived Free on the Pitt in 1792 Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of louise potterton Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:54 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] William day hi Leslie & Listers , My ancestor is William Day,Father of Marcellas day b 1802 Sydney Apparently he was part of the NSW corps and was granted land in 1819 in Camden. I cant find record listing what ship he came in on or a true record of his wife Can You please help? Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:14:51 +1000 From: "Lynette Crocker" <rcl@iprimus.com.au> Subject: [AUS-CON] Hamilton Hume To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <3E500668EA5443AAAB9B76FCF7D0FD7A@Roblyn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hi to the listers that are related to Hamilton Hume, Just in case you don't know of this website, this link has lots of pictures of Hamilton Hume and the house "Meadowvale" on Appin Rd on Appin Rd also the house on the farm next door to Meadowvale called "Beulah" that the Hume family built. http://www.pictureaustralia.org/apps/pictureaustralia/ Regards Lynette ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:19:33 +1000 From: "Sharon Robertson" <sharonjr@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] how many generations ago To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000f01c8f467$bb40bcd0$0100000a@CSR1961> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Darrell wrote: The other interesting metric is how many generations ago (ie. How recent) were your convict ancestors. My husband's convict is his great-great uncle: 1. Robert Ferris Allan ROBERTSON (father) (1917-1973) m.1941 Marion Stark BOLTON (1919-2008) 2. Philip ROBERTSON (grandfather) (1874-1939) m.1898 Martha ALLAN (1877-1961) 3. William ROBERTSON (G grandfather) (1843-1919) m.1866 Helen GOLD (great grandmother) (1844-1912) The convict Hugh Gold (1830-??) was Helen's oldest brother - Convict to VDL in 1850, after being convicted at 17 in Glasgow in 1847. Only 3 generations ago and my husband Colin is only 47. This is what can happen when two generations of children are born when their parents were in their forties. Regards Sharon ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-admin@rootsweb.com. 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