Hi Joan The convicts per the Hashemy were not given pardons of any type before or 'on' arrival in the colony - they were issued with Tickets of Leave very shortly after arrival. The Tickets that I found were issued about 2 weeks after arrival in 1849 A letter from Earl Grey to Sir Charles Fitz Roy of 1848 states in part: Convicts to be sent in ship Hashemy ------------------------------------------ I have the honour to inform you that 236 convicts, who are described by the Secretary of State for the Home Department to be of a better class, and who have been selected principally from Pentonville and Wakefield Prisons, where they have undergone probationary confinement, will be sent to New South Wales at the same time as this despatch by the ship Hashemy. Tickets of Leave to be issued ---------------------------------- I have enclosed to you in my other communications of this day's date the usual assignment list, together with four separate description lists of these men; and, in conformity with the recommendation of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, I have to instruct you to issue to them Tickets of Leave unless any of them should be guilty of misconduct on the voyage. Conditional pardons subject to payment of cost of transport ----------------------------------------------------------------- None of these men are to be recommended for a Conditional Pardon, unless they may have repaid to the Government the cost of their conveyance, which is to be assumed for this purpose at the sum of twenty pounds; and you will take care that they are distinctly aware that this is a condition to be fulfilled, independently of any evidence required of their good conduct, before any of them can obtain a Conditional Pardon although I need scarcely observe that any regulation of this kind is merely to be received as a part of convict discipline, and cannot be of any force after the expiration of the sentence. HRA regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ged & Joan BARRY Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:03 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Exile Ships Scheme from England to Port Phillip Hi Scott, I had not heard of the Royal Pardon in conjunction with the Exile scheme until your recent letter in reply to Cherylanne. My 2 convicts, Philip Reeves, and his brother George Smith( William Reeves) were sentenced to 15 years in 1847 and arrived on the Hashemy in 1849. They were sent on to Moreton Bay. George was given a Condition Pardon in 1857, Philip wasn't. Why was it necessary to apply for a Condition Pardon if they had already received a Royal Pardon before leaving England? Or did this Pardon only extend to certain Exiles? Regards, Joan