I've had the same problem--so made mine a private tree--only to find the photos etc. are open to all and sundry. I wrote to Ancestry with no real answer--they said to just make your tree private if you don't want people to copy. The person who copies my tree got a very unkind letter from me in the end --to which she answered--most upset at being treated that way. Cheers Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> To: <fayelucas@yahoo.com>; <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > This ANCESTRY thing is a real pain. > > My experience is this. I don't really care if people have trees with > 'wrong' information on them as everyone should be verifying their own > information for themselves. But I became aware of a certain individual > (and it is a Sydney woman) who was just simply downloading every document, > photograph and piece of information from my own tree and claiming it as > her own. I wrote a very courteous and kind letter and told her that it > seemed we have might have a connection and asked if she would like to > collaborate and exchange information etc. You guessed it - no reply! > Totally ignored me. It infuriated me to be doing hundreds of hours of > work only to have some person who is too cheap or too lazy (or both) > "using" me this way. I have tried everything to get my tree removed from > public view and have only "invited' people access it and thought I had > been successful but only last night found it is still open to anyone. Why > should these "leeches" ruin something for the rest of us. > > I enjoy my visits to Ancestry as an extra part of my research. I found, > and was reunited with my family through one of these sites and I didn't > even know the relatives existed (due to a family dispute a long time ago). > I think Ancestry should sort out this problem. They should be keeping up > to their part of the contract agreed to when one signs up. A contract is > two way thing isn't it? > > Meanwhile, the person plagiarising my tree (and I wouldn't mind if she > would just have some courtesy about it an answer my messages) has a > profile on Ancestry. Maybe it's time she was named and shamed. I don't > mind who uses my information as we are all in this together and some > "genies" can be all too "precious". But I do object to being "used" and > not even acknowledged as the owner of the photos, documents etc. It costs > money to obtain a document and this can be a very expensive hobby over > time - what a sneaky way to avoid "paying" for anything! > > There's power in numbers - is it possible for this site to lodge an > objection with Ancestry and tell them to get their act together? > > Kerri > > Having said all that, I have had contact with some lovely people through > Ancestry so there are only a few bad apples I think. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of faye lucas > Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2008 4:33 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > I have a similiar experience tried to delete my tree several years > ago.Which I thought that I had done. > I deleted it because I found out that it had several things that needed > corrections. > It was therefore easier to delete it and start over once verified. > Then only to find that it still appeared.Ancestry said that I need to > provide the URL's that some relatives had seen the tree on and I didn't > have acess to them (Ancestry) anymore . > In a fit of anger I rejoined so I could at least find the URL's only to > find that my information have been picked apart and inserted into other > trees.Yes even the mistakes. > I am busy trying to correct it but some people don't reply. > Regards > Faye > > --- On Sun, 31/8/08, Betty Keep <b.keep@tassie.net.au> wrote: > > From: Betty Keep <b.keep@tassie.net.au> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com, AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com, "List PJ > Convicts" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Received: Sunday, 31 August, 2008, 2:18 AM > > Hi All - I have experienced the same thing too, and am most frustrated > as > I have no way of contacting anyone to sort out the discrepancies. I > guess > one way would be to lodge your own tree, but then that would probably add > to > the confusion. I have one situation where 'whoever' has the wrong > convict > attached to one of my lines. > Ideas for solutions would be gratefully accepted. > > Betty > Devonport > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Strauss" <pstrauss@aapt.net.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS Convicts" > <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com>; "List PJ Convicts" > <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:58 PM > Subject: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> >> >> My children gave me a subscription to Ancestry for my birthday. >> >> I have found several ambiguous tree owners listing a number of my >> ancestors >> in their trees with many of the names incorrect and also incorrect dates >> which include children born before a parent. >> >> Generally these "ambiguous names" hide behind a non de plume, > have a "no >> contact" stipulation and do not respond to queries raised in the > Stories >> segment. >> >> One has 10 "Public" Family trees listed with people from both of > my >> parents >> sides included. >> >> Only one has responded to "Stories" inserted. >> >> I am not sure of the purpose of such listings, although they may be >> fishing >> expeditions looking to make up bogus family trees for sale. >> >> Have other Listers encountered these situations? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 > 5:18 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I must be unlucky then as I see some photos of my father's family on Ancestry, but I can't access them as they are private.. would love to know how to LOL. Cheers Liz On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Barbara Sowter <barbara.sowter@bigpond.com>wrote: > I've had the same problem--so made mine a private tree--only to find the > photos etc. are open to all and sundry. > > I wrote to Ancestry with no real answer--they said to just make your tree > private if you don't want people to copy. > > The person who copies my tree got a very unkind letter from me in the > end --to which she answered--most upset at being treated that way. > > Cheers > Barbara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> > To: <fayelucas@yahoo.com>; <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:15 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > > > This ANCESTRY thing is a real pain. > > > > My experience is this. I don't really care if people have trees with > > 'wrong' information on them as everyone should be verifying their own > > information for themselves. But I became aware of a certain individual > > (and it is a Sydney woman) who was just simply downloading every > document, > > photograph and piece of information from my own tree and claiming it as > > her own. I wrote a very courteous and kind letter and told her that it > > seemed we have might have a connection and asked if she would like to > > collaborate and exchange information etc. You guessed it - no reply! > > Totally ignored me. It infuriated me to be doing hundreds of hours of > > work only to have some person who is too cheap or too lazy (or both) > > "using" me this way. I have tried everything to get my tree removed from > > public view and have only "invited' people access it and thought I had > > been successful but only last night found it is still open to anyone. > Why > > should these "leeches" ruin something for the rest of us. > > > > I enjoy my visits to Ancestry as an extra part of my research. I found, > > and was reunited with my family through one of these sites and I didn't > > even know the relatives existed (due to a family dispute a long time > ago). > > I think Ancestry should sort out this problem. They should be keeping > up > > to their part of the contract agreed to when one signs up. A contract is > > two way thing isn't it? > > > > Meanwhile, the person plagiarising my tree (and I wouldn't mind if she > > would just have some courtesy about it an answer my messages) has a > > profile on Ancestry. Maybe it's time she was named and shamed. I don't > > mind who uses my information as we are all in this together and some > > "genies" can be all too "precious". But I do object to being "used" and > > not even acknowledged as the owner of the photos, documents etc. It > costs > > money to obtain a document and this can be a very expensive hobby over > > time - what a sneaky way to avoid "paying" for anything! > > > > There's power in numbers - is it possible for this site to lodge an > > objection with Ancestry and tell them to get their act together? > > > > Kerri > > > > Having said all that, I have had contact with some lovely people through > > Ancestry so there are only a few bad apples I think. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of faye lucas > > Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2008 4:33 PM > > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > > > I have a similiar experience tried to delete my tree several years > > ago.Which I thought that I had done. > > I deleted it because I found out that it had several things that needed > > corrections. > > It was therefore easier to delete it and start over once verified. > > Then only to find that it still appeared.Ancestry said that I need to > > provide the URL's that some relatives had seen the tree on and I didn't > > have acess to them (Ancestry) anymore . > > In a fit of anger I rejoined so I could at least find the URL's only to > > find that my information have been picked apart and inserted into other > > trees.Yes even the mistakes. > > I am busy trying to correct it but some people don't reply. > > Regards > > Faye > > > > --- On Sun, 31/8/08, Betty Keep <b.keep@tassie.net.au> wrote: > > > > From: Betty Keep <b.keep@tassie.net.au> > > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com, AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com, "List PJ > > Convicts" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > > Received: Sunday, 31 August, 2008, 2:18 AM > > > > Hi All - I have experienced the same thing too, and am most frustrated > > as > > I have no way of contacting anyone to sort out the discrepancies. I > > guess > > one way would be to lodge your own tree, but then that would probably add > > to > > the confusion. I have one situation where 'whoever' has the wrong > > convict > > attached to one of my lines. > > Ideas for solutions would be gratefully accepted. > > > > Betty > > Devonport > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Strauss" <pstrauss@aapt.net.au> > > To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS Convicts" > > <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com>; "List PJ Convicts" > > <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:58 PM > > Subject: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > > > > >> Hi Listers, > >> > >> > >> > >> My children gave me a subscription to Ancestry for my birthday. > >> > >> I have found several ambiguous tree owners listing a number of my > >> ancestors > >> in their trees with many of the names incorrect and also incorrect dates > >> which include children born before a parent. > >> > >> Generally these "ambiguous names" hide behind a non de plume, > > have a "no > >> contact" stipulation and do not respond to queries raised in the > > Stories > >> segment. > >> > >> One has 10 "Public" Family trees listed with people from both of > > my > >> parents > >> sides included. > >> > >> Only one has responded to "Stories" inserted. > >> > >> I am not sure of the purpose of such listings, although they may be > >> fishing > >> expeditions looking to make up bogus family trees for sale. > >> > >> Have other Listers encountered these situations? > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> Melbourne > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: > 8/30/2008 > > 5:18 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. > > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I sympathise with everyone who has had their research stolen and or misrepresented. I belong to Ancestry and have had amazing results from it. I have not put my tree up as I had a bad experience with Genesreunited when a relative copied my entire tree on to hers. I didn't mind that the family we had in common was copied but not only did she copy her line but all my lines and my husband's as well, something that has made me very reluctant to share again my tree; and sadly that defeats the purpose of the website. I have also seen my research up on Ancestry under someone elses name and as another contributor said it is a very expensive exercise gathering documents and photos together to find them stolen by others. I would support the view that private trees and their related documents and photos not be in the public arena. Fortunately in my experience, 33 years, I mainly find 99% of people you contact helpful, friendly and honest and the rest just the opposite. I cannot understand why anyone would want to steal research when I have always found the greatest pleasure is the pursuit of that elusive ancestor and nothing can match the joy of the breakthrough, the clue that pops up in a census or will etc, those robbers will never experience the sense of achievement we have all experienced in the honest pursuit of our family members. Julie MacDonald Barbara Sowter <barbara.sowter@bigpond.com> wrote: I've had the same problem--so made mine a private tree--only to find the photos etc. are open to all and sundry. I wrote to Ancestry with no real answer--they said to just make your tree private if you don't want people to copy. The person who copies my tree got a very unkind letter from me in the end --to which she answered--most upset at being treated that way. Cheers Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " To: ; Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > This ANCESTRY thing is a real pain. > > My experience is this. I don't really care if people have trees with > 'wrong' information on them as everyone should be verifying their own > information for themselves. But I became aware of a certain individual > (and it is a Sydney woman) who was just simply downloading every document, > photograph and piece of information from my own tree and claiming it as > her own. I wrote a very courteous and kind letter and told her that it > seemed we have might have a connection and asked if she would like to > collaborate and exchange information etc. You guessed it - no reply! > Totally ignored me. It infuriated me to be doing hundreds of hours of > work only to have some person who is too cheap or too lazy (or both) > "using" me this way. I have tried everything to get my tree removed from > public view and have only "invited' people access it and thought I had > been successful but only last night found it is still open to anyone. Why > should these "leeches" ruin something for the rest of us. > > I enjoy my visits to Ancestry as an extra part of my research. I found, > and was reunited with my family through one of these sites and I didn't > even know the relatives existed (due to a family dispute a long time ago). > I think Ancestry should sort out this problem. They should be keeping up > to their part of the contract agreed to when one signs up. A contract is > two way thing isn't it? > > Meanwhile, the person plagiarising my tree (and I wouldn't mind if she > would just have some courtesy about it an answer my messages) has a > profile on Ancestry. Maybe it's time she was named and shamed. I don't > mind who uses my information as we are all in this together and some > "genies" can be all too "precious". But I do object to being "used" and > not even acknowledged as the owner of the photos, documents etc. It costs > money to obtain a document and this can be a very expensive hobby over > time - what a sneaky way to avoid "paying" for anything! > > There's power in numbers - is it possible for this site to lodge an > objection with Ancestry and tell them to get their act together? > > Kerri > > Having said all that, I have had contact with some lovely people through > Ancestry so there are only a few bad apples I think. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of faye lucas > Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2008 4:33 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > I have a similiar experience tried to delete my tree several years > ago.Which I thought that I had done. > I deleted it because I found out that it had several things that needed > corrections. > It was therefore easier to delete it and start over once verified. > Then only to find that it still appeared.Ancestry said that I need to > provide the URL's that some relatives had seen the tree on and I didn't > have acess to them (Ancestry) anymore . > In a fit of anger I rejoined so I could at least find the URL's only to > find that my information have been picked apart and inserted into other > trees.Yes even the mistakes. > I am busy trying to correct it but some people don't reply. > Regards > Faye > > --- On Sun, 31/8/08, Betty Keep wrote: > > From: Betty Keep > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com, AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com, "List PJ > Convicts" > Received: Sunday, 31 August, 2008, 2:18 AM > > Hi All - I have experienced the same thing too, and am most frustrated > as > I have no way of contacting anyone to sort out the discrepancies. I > guess > one way would be to lodge your own tree, but then that would probably add > to > the confusion. I have one situation where 'whoever' has the wrong > convict > attached to one of my lines. > Ideas for solutions would be gratefully accepted. > > Betty > Devonport > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Strauss" > To: ; "List AUS Convicts" > ; "List PJ Convicts" > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:58 PM > Subject: [AUS-CON] ANONYMOUS ANCESTRY TREE OWNERS > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> >> >> My children gave me a subscription to Ancestry for my birthday. >> >> I have found several ambiguous tree owners listing a number of my >> ancestors >> in their trees with many of the names incorrect and also incorrect dates >> which include children born before a parent. >> >> Generally these "ambiguous names" hide behind a non de plume, > have a "no >> contact" stipulation and do not respond to queries raised in the > Stories >> segment. >> >> One has 10 "Public" Family trees listed with people from both of > my >> parents >> sides included. >> >> Only one has responded to "Stories" inserted. >> >> I am not sure of the purpose of such listings, although they may be >> fishing >> expeditions looking to make up bogus family trees for sale. >> >> Have other Listers encountered these situations? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.14/1643 - Release Date: 8/30/2008 > 5:18 PM > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message