Hi Judith: Welcome to this list. I for one hope you will stay. The "flame war" we have just witnessed is distressing, and I hope the listowner will end it immediately. I have personally experinced much help form list members and have not seen such an outbirst on this list for as long as I can remember, so please be assured it is not a common happening here. I for one will not quote the entire digest again, wveruone knows what they have seen. It appears that Allan's questions were answered. How can we help you? Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT. USA. ------ "Judith" wrote: I have only just sucscribed to this service. I plan to unsubscribe asap.