Janet, I did NOT write anonymously and have never done so! I resent bitterly the accusation that I would do so. And I have never spoken anything I would not speak in person. I have no compunction about speaking anything I have to say to anyone face-to-face. Whatever would you possess to make such an accusation. I am left wondering if people really read these messages properly. An apology was posted after an objection was lodged on the occasion you mention - you are correct ! As it was on this occasion!!!!! Interesting are your comments about not being able to gain information any other way Janet. Some years ago, I was berated on THIS VERY SITE for getting my information from a computer when others were doing the "real" research!!!!!!!!! As for Allan, I feel he can speak for himself and is, I can only hope, more gracious than you give him credit for. In my experience, when someone apologises for having said something that may have been misconstrued, then it's gracious for everyone to move on. As, incidentally was LESLEY'S instruction on the occasion you remember of a few weeks ago. I am becoming increasingly interested as to why there is a different standard of rules applied to each apology? I will not repeat my apology - it has been given and that is the end of it. If you wish to carry on with it then do so. But I would remind you of Lesley's advice on that occasion - to just get over it and move on! Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster How rude! I for one, smart I may not be, have had nothing but good & helpful advice from all and especially Leslie Ubel on this mailing list. I apologise on behalf of all to Allen. Allen, new to the list, asked a very good question. Goodness knows what Allen now thinks of this list. I viewed the "accidental email" a couple of weeks ago and reolised almost immediately that the sender had made a silly mistake and if my old memory serves me well enough, an apology was posted. Enough said. BUT to post rude insensitive unnecessary comments (not accidently) is a total waste of my precious time and I'm sure waste of email reading time for all who submit and gain information on this list. After a busy day I sat at my computer to have to read at least 10! I haven't got time for this nonsense! It should not be forgotten that many who ask advice from the list are in one way or another unable to obtain it any other way. Whether they be financially, physically or geographically unable. And we all benefit from the responding emails to the questions. I have only once or twice been able to assist someone on the list, received an instant thanks and felt soooo good to have helped. If this makes me a "show off" Bring it on! I've gone on a bit but unfortunately I'm angry and I think I should get angry about much more important things going on in the world. Perhaps the lesson here is this - BEFORE YOU WRITE ANONIMOUSLY THINK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IT IN PERSON. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Onya Allan, They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! Can't wait to see the answer. Kes -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Hello, I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of the reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry Patrick has 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. Many thanks Allan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Your apology? "notwithstanding I stand by all comments in the messages I have sent after that" After what? Haven't seen any yet. An apology isn't an apology if it has conditions. Yes, you do write anonymously, we all do. Just because we sign (not a signature) with a Christian name and Surname doesn't mean we are not anonymous. I dare say there are numerous Kerri Fergusons in Australia nay the World. And , of course some of us could be using fictional names. Therefore let's get real we are all anonymous. Oh, I read these messages properly. But as I said I don't need to waste my time reading anything that is not pertinent to the list. Which I did today because someone decided to be, in my opinion, unnecessarily crass and rude. I do have a right to an opinion. And before I continue, I apologise for wasting the lists eyesight and time in reading this email. If my email was read correctly - I did not write 'not being able to gain information any other way' I said that this list was beneficial because some had physical, financial & geogaphical restraints. Read my email. So! You know Allen personally? The man asked a perfectly reasonably question in a polite fashion and your responses to his query to this list were WHAT? Allen, if you are reading this, I'm truly sorry that you are innocently involved. This should never have happened and I am sorry I have wasted my time. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:54 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Janet, I did NOT write anonymously and have never done so! I resent bitterly the accusation that I would do so. And I have never spoken anything I would not speak in person. I have no compunction about speaking anything I have to say to anyone face-to-face. Whatever would you possess to make such an accusation. I am left wondering if people really read these messages properly. An apology was posted after an objection was lodged on the occasion you mention - you are correct ! As it was on this occasion!!!!! Interesting are your comments about not being able to gain information any other way Janet. Some years ago, I was berated on THIS VERY SITE for getting my information from a computer when others were doing the "real" research!!!!!!!!! As for Allan, I feel he can speak for himself and is, I can only hope, more gracious than you give him credit for. In my experience, when someone apologises for having said something that may have been misconstrued, then it's gracious for everyone to move on. As, incidentally was LESLEY'S instruction on the occasion you remember of a few weeks ago. I am becoming increasingly interested as to why there is a different standard of rules applied to each apology? I will not repeat my apology - it has been given and that is the end of it. If you wish to carry on with it then do so. But I would remind you of Lesley's advice on that occasion - to just get over it and move on! Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster How rude! I for one, smart I may not be, have had nothing but good & helpful advice from all and especially Leslie Ubel on this mailing list. I apologise on behalf of all to Allen. Allen, new to the list, asked a very good question. Goodness knows what Allen now thinks of this list. I viewed the "accidental email" a couple of weeks ago and reolised almost immediately that the sender had made a silly mistake and if my old memory serves me well enough, an apology was posted. Enough said. BUT to post rude insensitive unnecessary comments (not accidently) is a total waste of my precious time and I'm sure waste of email reading time for all who submit and gain information on this list. After a busy day I sat at my computer to have to read at least 10! I haven't got time for this nonsense! It should not be forgotten that many who ask advice from the list are in one way or another unable to obtain it any other way. Whether they be financially, physically or geographically unable. And we all benefit from the responding emails to the questions. I have only once or twice been able to assist someone on the list, received an instant thanks and felt soooo good to have helped. If this makes me a "show off" Bring it on! I've gone on a bit but unfortunately I'm angry and I think I should get angry about much more important things going on in the world. Perhaps the lesson here is this - BEFORE YOU WRITE ANONIMOUSLY THINK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IT IN PERSON. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Onya Allan, They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! Can't wait to see the answer. Kes -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Hello, I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of the reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry Patrick has 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. Many thanks Allan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Dear Janet. This Is my real name. I have no idea how many other people of the same name there are in Australia (can this get any sillier?????) And I do not know if you choose to be anonymous or not - I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT!!!!! I am NOT using a fictional name! If you are, then that is a matter for yourself. I DID read your email - I read VERY carefully and do not jump to conclusions. I concur with your sentiments that some cannot gain information in any other way because of the constraints you have outlined. What is the point you are trying to make? I guess this just goes to show that there is sometimes a breakdown in communication does it not? Again - where is this all coming from - I believe Allen and Lesley can speak up for themselves - can't they? Why are so many assuming to write for them? How this took a giant leap to an accusation that I may be writing under an anonymous name is beyond me. "Some of us could be using fictional names? What on earth is this all about? For the record - I am not using a "fictional" (sic) name. Nor a fictitious one. I have never even contemplated doing so. I resent the inference I may be anonymous and am perfectly happy to provide my personal details to whomever requests them from this site and meet with them face to face if requested to do so to discuss any issue they may have....... do I not now deserve apology for a veiled accusation that I may be using a "fictional name". Please ....... can't you just get on with it. Crass and rude - such an accusation goes beyond being crass and rude if I may be permitted to say so. In the interests of putting to rest any ill feeling, would you like to meet for a cup of coffee so we can discuss our differing opinions? I would be more than happy to do so. And I believe we would both benefit greatly from the experience. An apology IS an apology if it is given in good faith. I apologised for what I did that may have been misconstrued - not for a dearth of nonsense that was added by others after the fact for which I was NOT responsible. I hope that the person in charge of the website DOES put a stop to this. Why does the vitriol continue after I have apologised for ANY misinterpretation that may have occurred? That's a matter for you to answer as I cannot.. Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 9:17 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Your apology? "notwithstanding I stand by all comments in the messages I have sent after that" After what? Haven't seen any yet. An apology isn't an apology if it has conditions. Yes, you do write anonymously, we all do. Just because we sign (not a signature) with a Christian name and Surname doesn't mean we are not anonymous. I dare say there are numerous Kerri Fergusons in Australia nay the World. And , of course some of us could be using fictional names. Therefore let's get real we are all anonymous. Oh, I read these messages properly. But as I said I don't need to waste my time reading anything that is not pertinent to the list. Which I did today because someone decided to be, in my opinion, unnecessarily crass and rude. I do have a right to an opinion. And before I continue, I apologise for wasting the lists eyesight and time in reading this email. If my email was read correctly - I did not write 'not being able to gain information any other way' I said that this list was beneficial because some had physical, financial & geogaphical restraints. Read my email. So! You know Allen personally? The man asked a perfectly reasonably question in a polite fashion and your responses to his query to this list were WHAT? Allen, if you are reading this, I'm truly sorry that you are innocently involved. This should never have happened and I am sorry I have wasted my time. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:54 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Janet, I did NOT write anonymously and have never done so! I resent bitterly the accusation that I would do so. And I have never spoken anything I would not speak in person. I have no compunction about speaking anything I have to say to anyone face-to-face. Whatever would you possess to make such an accusation. I am left wondering if people really read these messages properly. An apology was posted after an objection was lodged on the occasion you mention - you are correct ! As it was on this occasion!!!!! Interesting are your comments about not being able to gain information any other way Janet. Some years ago, I was berated on THIS VERY SITE for getting my information from a computer when others were doing the "real" research!!!!!!!!! As for Allan, I feel he can speak for himself and is, I can only hope, more gracious than you give him credit for. In my experience, when someone apologises for having said something that may have been misconstrued, then it's gracious for everyone to move on. As, incidentally was LESLEY'S instruction on the occasion you remember of a few weeks ago. I am becoming increasingly interested as to why there is a different standard of rules applied to each apology? I will not repeat my apology - it has been given and that is the end of it. If you wish to carry on with it then do so. But I would remind you of Lesley's advice on that occasion - to just get over it and move on! Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster How rude! I for one, smart I may not be, have had nothing but good & helpful advice from all and especially Leslie Ubel on this mailing list. I apologise on behalf of all to Allen. Allen, new to the list, asked a very good question. Goodness knows what Allen now thinks of this list. I viewed the "accidental email" a couple of weeks ago and reolised almost immediately that the sender had made a silly mistake and if my old memory serves me well enough, an apology was posted. Enough said. BUT to post rude insensitive unnecessary comments (not accidently) is a total waste of my precious time and I'm sure waste of email reading time for all who submit and gain information on this list. After a busy day I sat at my computer to have to read at least 10! I haven't got time for this nonsense! It should not be forgotten that many who ask advice from the list are in one way or another unable to obtain it any other way. Whether they be financially, physically or geographically unable. And we all benefit from the responding emails to the questions. I have only once or twice been able to assist someone on the list, received an instant thanks and felt soooo good to have helped. If this makes me a "show off" Bring it on! I've gone on a bit but unfortunately I'm angry and I think I should get angry about much more important things going on in the world. Perhaps the lesson here is this - BEFORE YOU WRITE ANONIMOUSLY THINK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IT IN PERSON. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Onya Allan, They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! Can't wait to see the answer. Kes -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Hello, I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of the reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry Patrick has 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. Many thanks Allan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Why don't you just give up & shut up so others can get on with doing what the list was raised for, that is asking Questions that provide information to assist. You certainly have not done that in any of your posts Move on Geoff -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 6:54 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Janet, I did NOT write anonymously and have never done so! I resent bitterly the accusation that I would do so. And I have never spoken anything I would not speak in person. I have no compunction about speaking anything I have to say to anyone face-to-face. Whatever would you possess to make such an accusation. I am left wondering if people really read these messages properly. An apology was posted after an objection was lodged on the occasion you mention - you are correct ! As it was on this occasion!!!!! Interesting are your comments about not being able to gain information any other way Janet. Some years ago, I was berated on THIS VERY SITE for getting my information from a computer when others were doing the "real" research!!!!!!!!! As for Allan, I feel he can speak for himself and is, I can only hope, more gracious than you give him credit for. In my experience, when someone apologises for having said something that may have been misconstrued, then it's gracious for everyone to move on. As, incidentally was LESLEY'S instruction on the occasion you remember of a few weeks ago. I am becoming increasingly interested as to why there is a different standard of rules applied to each apology? I will not repeat my apology - it has been given and that is the end of it. If you wish to carry on with it then do so. But I would remind you of Lesley's advice on that occasion - to just get over it and move on! Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster How rude! I for one, smart I may not be, have had nothing but good & helpful advice from all and especially Leslie Ubel on this mailing list. I apologise on behalf of all to Allen. Allen, new to the list, asked a very good question. Goodness knows what Allen now thinks of this list. I viewed the "accidental email" a couple of weeks ago and reolised almost immediately that the sender had made a silly mistake and if my old memory serves me well enough, an apology was posted. Enough said. BUT to post rude insensitive unnecessary comments (not accidently) is a total waste of my precious time and I'm sure waste of email reading time for all who submit and gain information on this list. After a busy day I sat at my computer to have to read at least 10! I haven't got time for this nonsense! It should not be forgotten that many who ask advice from the list are in one way or another unable to obtain it any other way. Whether they be financially, physically or geographically unable. And we all benefit from the responding emails to the questions. I have only once or twice been able to assist someone on the list, received an instant thanks and felt soooo good to have helped. If this makes me a "show off" Bring it on! I've gone on a bit but unfortunately I'm angry and I think I should get angry about much more important things going on in the world. Perhaps the lesson here is this - BEFORE YOU WRITE ANONIMOUSLY THINK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IT IN PERSON. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Onya Allan, They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! Can't wait to see the answer. Kes -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Hello, I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of the reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry Patrick has 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. Many thanks Allan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Perhaps this is a good moment to let newcomers to this list know that the E-mails sent to the lists do not always arrive to our PC's in the order in which they were sent. Kim, our list administrator, has already mentioned that he can be late to receive them and for those of us living away from Australia the time difference, of course, makes an even greater difference to their arrival and when we deal with them. In addition, I have learned from the experience of being on several lists that the rootsweb mechanism for passing the E-mails (way beyond my technical understanding) does have some very curious ways of forwarding on replies before we have received the question! And we individually all have our personal time scales about when we read and reply to our E-mails. So please, have patience, and wait for this storm to blow itself out. Connie Williams -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Reeves Sent: 18 October 2008 11:51 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster
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