John Scott, seaman, who arrived on the Second Fleet in 1790 spent some time on Norfolk Island Arrived as a seaman on one of the ships of the Second Fleet in 1790. He left this ship and signed up as a crew member of the HMS Supply in October 1790. John commenced a relationship with Ann White, convict per the Neptune 1790. John and Ann's child, Elizabeth Ann Scott (born 24 July 1791 in Sydney) died as an infant and was buried on 6 September 1791. November 1791 - Discharged from the 'Supply' with permission to become a settler. He then sailed for Norfolk Island on the 'Queen' along with Ann WHITE. They married on Norfolk Island shortly after their arrival there. June 1794 - John and Ann were described as a childless married couple. Theirs was more than likely one of the marriages performed by the Reverend Richard Johnson during his brief visit to Norfolk Island, for which no records survive John departed the colony on the Asia in 1795. Ann White remained in the colony, had two later marriages, giving birth to seven children. She went to Van Diemens Land in January 1813 on board the Lady Nelson. She died at Evandale, VDL in December 1820 Scott On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:47:55 +1000 (EST), Julie Gough <julie.gough@jcu.edu.au> wrote: > Dear Scott and Carol > > Many thanks for your help with identifying John Scott. > > I have a transcription of his journal where he states: > > "Friday Feb 12th 1841 [or could be 1842, years are slightly mixed up]: I > have > been in this country 35 years and have never experienced so much heat and > dry > weather, everything is parched for want of rain. Flies and other insects > innumerable". > > so I do think he arrived in 1806 or 1807. > > His language/terminology and his skills seem naval or seaman in origin, > and, > by 1830 he was referred to as Old Scott, so may have been born c.1870.(?) > > Perhaps he is most likely to be (Thanks Scott): > > 4) John Scott, Convict arrived per the Duke of Portland in 1807 > > 1) John Scott, Seaman arrived per an unidentified ship of the Second > Fleet, left > the colony on the Asia in 1795 [who perhaps returned to live in 1806/7]. > > I will look them up. > > Also wasn't there a John Scott on Norfolk Island? > > Thanks Carol also for this candidate below -who sounds very interesting > but > 1810 arrival sounds too late: > > Description: John Scott, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, > July > 1810 Sentence Details: Convicted at "The Agincourt" Court Martial for a > term of > life. Vessel: Indian (Ship) Date of Departure: July 1810 > Place of Arrival: New South Wales > Source: Australian Joint Copying Project Microfilm Roll 87, Class and > Piece > Number HO11/2, Page Number 23 (13) Creator: Great Britain. Home Office > Publisher: State Library of Queensland Digital ID: ctr-087433 > > also - perhaps he wasn't a convict to start with but one of those > historical > anomaly 'swimmer' arrivals... > > Julie > > ---- Original message ---- >>Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:53:15 +1100 >>From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com (on behalf of Scott Brown > <ozgenie@historyaustralia.org.au>) >>Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] seeking info: John Scott arrived 1807/8 died 1843 >>To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >> >> >>I have identified the following John Scott's arriving in the colony pre >>1810 >>1) John Scott, Seaman per an unidentified ship of the Second Fleet, left >>the colony on the Asia in 1795 >>2) John Scott, copnvict per the Sugar Cane in 1793 >>3) John Scott, Convict per the Minerva in 1800 (died 1806) >>4) John Scott, Convict per the Duke of Portland in 1807 >>5) John Scott, Convict per the Indian in 1810 >>6) John Scott, Convict per the Rolla in 1803 >> >>Scott Brown >> >>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:29:44 +1000, "Carol Wood" > <nanawood@bigpond.com> >>wrote: >>> Hi Julie, >>> >>> I can't find any John Scott as a convict in the years 1807/8. The one >>> below >>> from the State Library of Qld website is the closest I can find. He > was >>> Court Martialled. Sorry I don't know much about the The Agincourt > Court >>> Martial except it was something that happened during the Napoleonic > Wars >>> off >>> Gibralter and the captain of the ship (Cptn Williamson) was court >>> martialled >>> for failing to engage the enemy in a battle. If you Google it you >>might >>> find out more. >>> >>> Title: Scott, John >>> >>> Description: John Scott, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, >>> July >>> 1810 >>> >>> Sentence Details: Convicted at "The Agincourt" Court Martial for a term >>of >>> life. >>> >>> Vessel: Indian (Ship) >>> >>> Date of Departure: July 1810 >>> >>> Place of Arrival: New South Wales >>> >>> Subject(s): Convicts - Australia - Registers >>> Australia - Genealogy >>> >>> Source: Australian Joint Copying Project Microfilm Roll 87, Class and >>> Piece >>> Number HO11/2, Page Number 23 (13) >>> >>> Creator: Great Britain. Home Office >>> >>> Publisher: State Library of Queensland >>> >>> Digital ID: ctr-087433 >>> >>> Carol Wood >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Scott Many thanks again for your help with identifying the John Scott who arrived 1806/7. This is great to find out more from you about the Norfolk Island John Scott - he sounds too old, arriving in 1790, marrying in 1794, to be the John Scott who drowned in 1843 even though he was called "Old Scott" from c.1830+ It seems that the John Scott, Convict arrived per the Duke of Portland in 1807 is more likely the candidate who fits the correct arrival year scenario, unless there are any other non convict/swimmer John Scotts arriving into Australia 1806-7. I will seek his movements/assignments etc . In the meantime, many thanks again Julie ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:20:23 +1100 >From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com (on behalf of Scott Brown <ozgenie@historyaustralia.org.au>) >Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] seeking info: John Scott arrived 1806/7/8 died 1843 >To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > >John Scott, seaman, who arrived on the Second Fleet in 1790 spent some time >on Norfolk Island > >Arrived as a seaman on one of the ships of the Second Fleet in 1790. He >left this ship and signed up as a crew member of the HMS Supply in October >1790. >John commenced a relationship with Ann White, convict per the Neptune 1790. >John and Ann's child, Elizabeth Ann Scott (born 24 July 1791 in Sydney) >died as an infant and was buried on 6 September 1791. >November 1791 - Discharged from the 'Supply' with permission to become a >settler. He then sailed for Norfolk Island on the 'Queen' along with Ann >WHITE. They married on Norfolk Island shortly after their arrival there. >June 1794 - John and Ann were described as a childless married couple. >Theirs was more than likely one of the marriages performed by the Reverend >Richard Johnson during his brief visit to Norfolk Island, for which no >records survive >John departed the colony on the Asia in 1795. >Ann White remained in the colony, had two later marriages, giving birth to >seven children. She went to Van Diemens Land in January 1813 on board the >Lady Nelson. She died at Evandale, VDL in December 1820 > >Scott > > >On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:47:55 +1000 (EST), Julie Gough ><julie.gough@jcu.edu.au> wrote: >> Dear Scott and Carol >> >> Many thanks for your help with identifying John Scott. >> >> I have a transcription of his journal where he states: >> >> "Friday Feb 12th 1841 [or could be 1842, years are slightly mixed up]: I >> have >> been in this country 35 years and have never experienced so much heat and >> dry >> weather, everything is parched for want of rain. Flies and other insects >> innumerable". >> >> so I do think he arrived in 1806 or 1807. >> >> His language/terminology and his skills seem naval or seaman in origin, >> and, >> by 1830 he was referred to as Old Scott, so may have been born c.1870.(?) >> >> Perhaps he is most likely to be (Thanks Scott): >> >> 4) John Scott, Convict arrived per the Duke of Portland in 1807 >> >> 1) John Scott, Seaman arrived per an unidentified ship of the Second >> Fleet, left >> the colony on the Asia in 1795 [who perhaps returned to live in 1806/7]. >> >> I will look them up. >> >> Also wasn't there a John Scott on Norfolk Island? >> >> Thanks Carol also for this candidate below -who sounds very interesting >> but >> 1810 arrival sounds too late: >> >> Description: John Scott, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, >> July >> 1810 Sentence Details: Convicted at "The Agincourt" Court Martial for a >> term of >> life. Vessel: Indian (Ship) Date of Departure: July 1810 >> Place of Arrival: New South Wales >> Source: Australian Joint Copying Project Microfilm Roll 87, Class and >> Piece >> Number HO11/2, Page Number 23 (13) Creator: Great Britain. Home Office >> Publisher: State Library of Queensland Digital ID: ctr-087433 >> >> also - perhaps he wasn't a convict to start with but one of those >> historical >> anomaly 'swimmer' arrivals... >> >> Julie >> >> ---- Original message ---- >>>Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:53:15 +1100 >>>From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com (on behalf of Scott Brown >> <ozgenie@historyaustralia.org.au>) >>>Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] seeking info: John Scott arrived 1807/8 died 1843 >>>To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>>I have identified the following John Scott's arriving in the colony pre >>>1810 >>>1) John Scott, Seaman per an unidentified ship of the Second Fleet, left >>>the colony on the Asia in 1795 >>>2) John Scott, copnvict per the Sugar Cane in 1793 >>>3) John Scott, Convict per the Minerva in 1800 (died 1806) >>>4) John Scott, Convict per the Duke of Portland in 1807 >>>5) John Scott, Convict per the Indian in 1810 >>>6) John Scott, Convict per the Rolla in 1803 >>> >>>Scott Brown >>> >>>On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:29:44 +1000, "Carol Wood" >> <nanawood@bigpond.com> >>>wrote: >>>> Hi Julie, >>>> >>>> I can't find any John Scott as a convict in the years 1807/8. The one >>>> below >>>> from the State Library of Qld website is the closest I can find. He >> was >>>> Court Martialled. Sorry I don't know much about the The Agincourt >> Court >>>> Martial except it was something that happened during the Napoleonic >> Wars >>>> off >>>> Gibralter and the captain of the ship (Cptn Williamson) was court >>>> martialled >>>> for failing to engage the enemy in a battle. If you Google it you >>>might >>>> find out more. >>>> >>>> Title: Scott, John >>>> >>>> Description: John Scott, one of 200 convicts transported on the Indian, >>>> July >>>> 1810 >>>> >>>> Sentence Details: Convicted at "The Agincourt" Court Martial for a term >>>of >>>> life. >>>> >>>> Vessel: Indian (Ship) >>>> >>>> Date of Departure: July 1810 >>>> >>>> Place of Arrival: New South Wales >>>> >>>> Subject(s): Convicts - Australia - Registers >>>> Australia - Genealogy >>>> >>>> Source: Australian Joint Copying Project Microfilm Roll 87, Class and >>>> Piece >>>> Number HO11/2, Page Number 23 (13) >>>> >>>> Creator: Great Britain. Home Office >>>> >>>> Publisher: State Library of Queensland >>>> >>>> Digital ID: ctr-087433 >>>> >>>> Carol Wood >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the >> subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message