hi Janese this has got me thinking more than I expected! I have: 2 convict ancestors arrived 5 generations ago 4 convict ancestors arrived 6 generations ago 4 convict ancestors arrived 7 generations ago 1 convict ancestors arrived 8 generations ago = 11 convict ancestors arriving between 1792 and 1842 - I am 43 years old. I haven't done the maths yet for what is max possible convict ancestors for someone but it can't only be convict ancestors people need to come from their 'native' born child - who in turn can marry a convict, and so forth Also I am wondering what might be closest generation possible between convict ancestors and to the living now - a point which someone interestingly raised. Elderly people could have 4 convict great grandparents I think (?) Anyhow thanks to everyone for having this conversation Julie ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:35:09 +1000 >From: "Janese" <[email protected]> >Subject: [AUS-CON] Convicts and Generations >To: <[email protected]> > >Hullo List > I have been pondering the generation issue. >My grandson is a 7th generation Australian. >The normal or average time between a generations is about 35 years. This >gives him 245 years of Aussie relatives. So he would have 128 direct >Australian ancestors. >Which is correct that takes him back to 1763, the birth of my first convict. >If we went back 14 generations that is 490 years ago that would give us >about 16 thousand main relatives. >Given that some of our ancestors appear in our family trees more than once. >Convict transport ceased in NSW in October 1850 WA in 1863. >The most amount of convicts you can have? >If your first arrival was 1788. He/she married another convict. >There are your first two. Their child marries a convict. Now 3 convicts. >Remember that the first child is colonial born not a convict.1st generation >Australian. Colonial born child's in laws are both convicts. There are your >first 5 convicts. >You can have a good many convicts if your convicts were arriving right up >until the last ship. > >Between 1791 and 1846 I have 9 direct convicts but am related to 12. With >the early deaths of some, the remarriages were to other convicts, which bore >more children. > >So a marriage in 1788 can produce a child in 1789. Wait 16 years then the >next generation is born 1805. They wait 20 years1825 they wait 18 years 1843 >then another 16 years 1859. A young convict arriving on that last ship say >he's 17 years old, he does not get married for another 16 years but marries >the girl born in 1859 in 1875. He's 33 she is 16. >That is nearly 100 years later. If your convicts married only convicts that >is how many you can have? I know how many that is, who else can work it out? >Jen. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message