Thankyou Margaret for the information I really appreciate the way every one helps out,. Could you also look up a marriage for James father and mother . I think they were John Bruce and Sarah Butler No other info . I do Know that James was born on 6 Aug 1791 but no copy of birth cert yet. Thanks again Lorraine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] james bruce > Hello Paul > > Hope you don't think I'm being nosey and butting in, but I've just found > this on Pallot's Marriage Index: > > Jas. BRUCE to Sarah BURNEY > Both residents of Poplar parish > Married 1822 at St. Dunstan's, Stepney > > Sarah made her 'mark', but it appears James signed his name. > > Happy to do other look-ups if you would like. > > Best wishes > > Margaret (Warwickshire, England) > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Paul,Lorraine,Des Heuston < > pauleonlad1@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Hi Lesley, >> >> A big THANKYOU for your infomation . It is helping to fill in the >> blanks. I have a copy of James Bruce's death cert purchased by my >> grandfather in 1957 when he was reseaching. It states that James was >> married >> to Sarah Ann Burney in Stepney England (no date) Children are listed as >> Henry ,George, Ellen ,Robert and 3 males deceased. I think they may have >> been John Joesph and Frances.(unconfirmed) >> James was 84yrs when he died in 1874. >> Many thanks again ,,,,still searching for more ,,,,,,Lorraine. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] james bruce >> >> >> > Hi Lorraine >> > >> > The Indent for the "Surrey" 1831 states that James Bruce was 40 years >> > of >> > age >> > when he arrived (that agrees with your year of birth). James was a >> > Protestant >> > and could read and write. He was a married man with 2 children. His >> > native >> > place was stated to be Arbroath (this is about 17 miles to the North >> > East >> > of >> > Dundee). He gave his occupations as Seaman, Mill Wright and Labourer. >> > He >> > was >> > tried at Winchester on the 28 February 1831 and received a Life >> > sentence >> > for >> > robbing a pantry. It was his first conviction. >> > >> > On the 24th February 1847 James was recommended for a Conditional >> > Pardon >> > and he >> > received it on the 1 March 1848 - No. 48/640. He was issued with a >> > Ticket >> > of >> > Leave in 1840 No. 40/1690. On arrival he has been assigned to a Mr J. >> > F. >> > Hawkins of Bathurst and then had been assigned to Mr. A. K. McKenzie >> > of >> > Bathurst (according to the General Return of Convicts in NSW - 1837) >> > >> > A Mrs Sarah Bruce and 2 children arrived from Hobart on the Sir Thomas >> > Munro >> > (see Archives Office of Tasmania web site) - this ship left Hobart on >> the >> > 11 >> > February 1833. According to the Convictions web site the following >> people >> > departed on the Sir Thomas Munro Sarah, James, Henry & John for Sydney >> in >> > 1833. >> > I am a little confused here as I do not know the names of the 2 >> > children >> > of >> > James and Sarah. These people do not appear to have arrived IN Hobart >> > on >> > the Sir >> > Thomas Munro so may have arrived on another ship. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Lesley Uebel >> > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au >> > CLAIM A CONVICT >> > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of >> > Paul,Lorraine,Des >> > Heuston >> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:31 PM >> > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [AUS-CON] james bruce >> > >> > >> > Hi Lesley, >> > I have some info about James and family. He was b. London >> > 6/8/1791 father John m Sarah. >> > He was married to Sarah Ann Burney & had 2 sons. Arrived on Surrey >> > 1831.His wife >> > and 2 children arrived on Sir thomas Munro 1832/3 James pardoned in >> > 1839. >> > As this was all in hard to read notes by unknown person/ sources, (of >> > which I >> > have a poor photocopy ) I want to verify this and find out more . >> > Thankyou >> > for your help Lorraine >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >