Hi Scott Thanks for your input. I have a small connection with the Hume family via the Huon's as the two families were connected by marriages in the early pioneer days. Are the Humes in your tree? From those early days I suspect nearly everyone today is related in some way to those pioneers! :) A few large families marrying back and forth over a few generations seems to have done it. If you have data on the Huon's I'd be interested in that, or if you would like what I have? Regards Tom -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Brown Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 10:11 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convict ancestorsonecould have? Tom You are correct. Andrew Hamilton Hume arrived in the colony as a free man with the position of Superintendant of Convicts. He originally embarked on the Guardian but after the sinking of this ship he transferred to the Lady juliana. Some of the notes I have regarding this man are 1782 - Enlisted in the Moira Regiment of Volunteers. He was cashiered in 1786 after being court-martialled over a duel with his commanding officer. After this he was employed as a Superintendent of Convicts on the Thames hulks at Woolwich until August 1789 when he embarked on the HMS Guardian bound for New South Wales. He was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana' at Table Bay following the Guardian's near sinking after striking an iceberg After the 'Guardian' sank, Hume was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana'. He transferred to Norfolk Island on the 'Surprise' in 1790 1792 - Superintendent of Convicts, Norfolk Island March 1793 - Returned to Sydney on the 'Kitty'. Here he was appointed as superintendent at Toongabbie April 1794 - Received a grant of 30 acres at Toongabbie August 1796 - Appeared in court on a charge of raping 11 year old Ann SMITH who had been employed as a servant in his household. Ann had arrived free in NSW with her convict mother on the First Fleet. He was acquitted of the charge after a two day trial March 1796 - Andrew was holding the position of Government Storekeeper at Parramatta 1800 - Dismissed from the position of Superintendent of Livestock by Governor KING 1811 - Received a grant of 100 acres at Appin He was born at Hillsborough, County Down, Ireland on 26 June 1862 to James and Isabella Hume. On 29 September 1796 he married Elizabeth More Kennedy at St John's Parramatta.They had five children being Hamilton, Isabella, John Kennedy, Andrew Hamilton and Francis Rawdon. Andrew Hamilton Hume died at home at "Glenrock" near Marulan on 23 September 1849 and was buried at St Saviour's Church at Bungonia, NSW. Scott Brown > Tom Element <telement@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Christine > > I'm a little confused by your statement which says: Hamilton Hume father > of > Explorer > was a convict. > The explorer was Hamilton Hume and his father was Andrew Hamilton Hume > who > was a Superintendent of Convicts, certainly not a convict. Have I read > something incorrectly? > > Regards > Tom > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 66 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Reply to be sent off-line On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:51:29 +1000, "Tom Element" <telement@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Scott > > Thanks for your input. I have a small connection with the Hume family via > the Huon's as the two families were connected by marriages in the early > pioneer days. > > Are the Humes in your tree? From those early days I suspect nearly > everyone > today is related in some way to those pioneers! :) A few large families > marrying back and forth over a few generations seems to have done it. If > you have data on the Huon's I'd be interested in that, or if you would > like > what I have? > > Regards > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Brown > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 10:11 AM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convict > ancestorsonecould have? > > > Tom > > You are correct. Andrew Hamilton Hume arrived in the colony as a free man > with the position of Superintendant of Convicts. He originally embarked on > the Guardian but after the sinking of this ship he transferred to the Lady > juliana. > > Some of the notes I have regarding this man are > > 1782 - Enlisted in the Moira Regiment of Volunteers. He was cashiered in > 1786 after being court-martialled over a duel with his commanding officer. > After this he was employed as a Superintendent of Convicts on the Thames > hulks at Woolwich until August 1789 when he embarked on the HMS Guardian > bound for New South Wales. He was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana' at > Table > Bay following the Guardian's near sinking after striking an iceberg > After the 'Guardian' sank, Hume was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana'. He > transferred to Norfolk Island on the 'Surprise' in 1790 > 1792 - Superintendent of Convicts, Norfolk Island > March 1793 - Returned to Sydney on the 'Kitty'. Here he was appointed as > superintendent at Toongabbie > April 1794 - Received a grant of 30 acres at Toongabbie > August 1796 - Appeared in court on a charge of raping 11 year old Ann > SMITH > who had been employed as a servant in his household. Ann had arrived free > in > NSW with her convict mother on the First Fleet. He was acquitted of the > charge after a two day trial > March 1796 - Andrew was holding the position of Government Storekeeper at > Parramatta > 1800 - Dismissed from the position of Superintendent of Livestock by > Governor KING > 1811 - Received a grant of 100 acres at Appin > > He was born at Hillsborough, County Down, Ireland on 26 June 1862 to James > and Isabella Hume. On 29 September 1796 he married Elizabeth More Kennedy > at > St John's Parramatta.They had five children being Hamilton, Isabella, John > Kennedy, Andrew Hamilton and Francis Rawdon. Andrew Hamilton Hume died at > home at "Glenrock" near Marulan on 23 September 1849 and was buried at St > Saviour's Church at Bungonia, NSW. > > Scott Brown > > >> Tom Element <telement@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >> >> Hi Christine >> >> I'm a little confused by your statement which says: Hamilton Hume father >> of >> Explorer >> was a convict. >> The explorer was Hamilton Hume and his father was Andrew Hamilton Hume >> who >> was a Superintendent of Convicts, certainly not a convict. Have I read >> something incorrectly? >> >> Regards >> Tom >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 66 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iam a descendant of Andrew Hamilton Hume and also via Kennedy line his wife line Elizabeth More Kennedy Cathy Dunn -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom Element Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:51 AM To: ozgenie@optusnet.com.au; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convictancestorsonecould have? Hi Scott Thanks for your input. I have a small connection with the Hume family via the Huon's as the two families were connected by marriages in the early pioneer days. Are the Humes in your tree? From those early days I suspect nearly everyone today is related in some way to those pioneers! :) A few large families marrying back and forth over a few generations seems to have done it. If you have data on the Huon's I'd be interested in that, or if you would like what I have? Regards Tom -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Scott Brown Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 10:11 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query: What is max # of direct convict ancestorsonecould have? Tom You are correct. Andrew Hamilton Hume arrived in the colony as a free man with the position of Superintendant of Convicts. He originally embarked on the Guardian but after the sinking of this ship he transferred to the Lady juliana. Some of the notes I have regarding this man are 1782 - Enlisted in the Moira Regiment of Volunteers. He was cashiered in 1786 after being court-martialled over a duel with his commanding officer. After this he was employed as a Superintendent of Convicts on the Thames hulks at Woolwich until August 1789 when he embarked on the HMS Guardian bound for New South Wales. He was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana' at Table Bay following the Guardian's near sinking after striking an iceberg After the 'Guardian' sank, Hume was transferred to the 'Lady Juliana'. He transferred to Norfolk Island on the 'Surprise' in 1790 1792 - Superintendent of Convicts, Norfolk Island March 1793 - Returned to Sydney on the 'Kitty'. Here he was appointed as superintendent at Toongabbie April 1794 - Received a grant of 30 acres at Toongabbie August 1796 - Appeared in court on a charge of raping 11 year old Ann SMITH who had been employed as a servant in his household. Ann had arrived free in NSW with her convict mother on the First Fleet. He was acquitted of the charge after a two day trial March 1796 - Andrew was holding the position of Government Storekeeper at Parramatta 1800 - Dismissed from the position of Superintendent of Livestock by Governor KING 1811 - Received a grant of 100 acres at Appin He was born at Hillsborough, County Down, Ireland on 26 June 1862 to James and Isabella Hume. On 29 September 1796 he married Elizabeth More Kennedy at St John's Parramatta.They had five children being Hamilton, Isabella, John Kennedy, Andrew Hamilton and Francis Rawdon. Andrew Hamilton Hume died at home at "Glenrock" near Marulan on 23 September 1849 and was buried at St Saviour's Church at Bungonia, NSW. Scott Brown > Tom Element <telement@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Christine > > I'm a little confused by your statement which says: Hamilton Hume father > of > Explorer > was a convict. > The explorer was Hamilton Hume and his father was Andrew Hamilton Hume > who > was a Superintendent of Convicts, certainly not a convict. Have I read > something incorrectly? > > Regards > Tom > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 66 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message