Is there anyone out there who knows they are descended from either of the Welsh convicts above, please?  If so in return I can give some info about their trial and time in prison in Wales.   Books and records are inconclusive - some say both were transported, some that one or the other was pardoned.   I have had tremendous help from listers, notably Brenda from Adelaide, Mary-Jane and Judith - thanks to them and the others.   BUT confusion still remains about whether the women landed in NSW.   Both were tried the same day in July 1790 in Denbighshire at the Quarter Sessions. Both were sentenced to 7 years' transportation. Both (seem to have) sailed on the "Neptune" with the Second Fleet, God help them.   For instance one book says Sarah was pardoned and never left Denbighshire.  Another says she married in Parramatta.  I know there is a record of a marriage between a Sarah Evans and James Steward/t.   If any descendants can help, I would be happy to share what I have found out about them before transportation.  I am not a relative but am following up research on prisoners and transportees from Ruthin Gaol to NSW and VDL.   Thanks.   Chris Denbighshire, North Wales