Lesley I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 Sep 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. Where to now? Phil West -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was free. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil West Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, Ireland. Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Phil, What makes you think they were convicts? Robert Winters must have come to the colony with his parents as a young child according to information on death certificate which makes it unlikely that the parents were convicts if they all came together. Is the father's name Jacob or Job Winters. Have a look at http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts which is the Convict Transport Registry database. There are lots of Winter/Winters on it but no Job or Jacob that I can see. It is not 100% complete. Also try to Irish Gift database online for Irish convicts. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/ Also if you do a Google search under County Clare you will find lots of information to search in that area. Carol

Carol There is a Jacob Winters on Mariner 1816. Nevertheless, I am going to seek the marriage certificate of Job and Ann Mills to sort this out. Phil -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Wood Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 9:37 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter Hi Phil, What makes you think they were convicts? Robert Winters must have come to the colony with his parents as a young child according to information on death certificate which makes it unlikely that the parents were convicts if they all came together. Is the father's name Jacob or Job Winters. Have a look at http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts which is the Convict Transport Registry database. There are lots of Winter/Winters on it but no Job or Jacob that I can see. It is not 100% complete. Also try to Irish Gift database online for Irish convicts. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/ Also if you do a Google search under County Clare you will find lots of information to search in that area. Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message