Phil, We often forget that free settlers arrived in this time as did many soldiers who accomapanied the the convicts. I had asumed one of my subjects b 1819 Dublin arrived 1826 Australia must have been a convict's chil but it turns oout that he may have been a soldiers child of the 39th Regiment of Foot. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-conflicts-periods/other/british_army-in-aust.htm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tobegin.htm could be useful in this area. regards Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Phil West" <sandrawest@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter > Lesley > > I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 > Sep > 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters > (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. > > Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". > Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, > Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. > > As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. > > Where to now? > > Phil West > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was > free. > > regards > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil > West > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner > I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. > > I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, > Ireland. > Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so > Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. > > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am searching for a Stephen Gatrell (Gathel)that arrived in Fremantle Perth about 1852. I believe that he obtained his TOL and lived in Guildford. If anyone has heard of him please contact me. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robyn Gross Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 12:11 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter Phil, We often forget that free settlers arrived in this time as did many soldiers who accomapanied the the convicts. I had asumed one of my subjects b 1819 Dublin arrived 1826 Australia must have been a convict's chil but it turns oout that he may have been a soldiers child of the 39th Regiment of Foot. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-conflicts-periods/other/british_army-in- aust.htm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tobegin.htm could be useful in this area. regards Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Phil West" <sandrawest@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter > Lesley > > I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 > Sep > 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters > (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. > > Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". > Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, > Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. > > As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. > > Where to now? > > Phil West > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was > free. > > regards > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil > West > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner > I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. > > I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, > Ireland. > Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so > Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. > > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message