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Thanks Lesley I will look it up, our mother followed it up 40 yrs ago, our convict great gran daughter born 1842 live with our family until 1933, the family believe she never knew her mother was a convict, they sure keep secrets in early days. Kath > > Have you tried the Female Factory Index - Parramatta 1826--1848 on > microfiche? > > Regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:[email protected] > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kath Connors > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > > > Thanks to all for all the interesting replies on the Parramatta site. our > ancestor Margaret Hughes AKA Mary Ann Whalan was sent there > in 1830, we have tried long ago to find if there may be some records > of her being there but had no luck. > > Kath > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you tried the Female Factory Index - Parramatta 1826--1848 on microfiche? Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kath Connors Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta Thanks to all for all the interesting replies on the Parramatta site. our ancestor Margaret Hughes AKA Mary Ann Whalan was sent there in 1830, we have tried long ago to find if there may be some records of her being there but had no luck. Kath

Yes Kath, records are very hard to come by. I have never found anything more than a reference in the Colonial Sec's correspondence for my ancestor: On arrival in Sydney, Honora McCue, housekeeper, with "female child" was sent to the "Parramatta Factory" (Colonial Secretary's Index 1788-1825 Nov. 25 1818 ). Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kath Connors" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Thanks to all for all the interesting replies on the Parramatta site. our > ancestor Margaret Hughes AKA Mary Ann Whalan was sent there > in 1830, we have tried long ago to find if there may be some records > of her being there but had no luck. > > Kath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > > >> Thanks Carol, >> I was not aware of the location of the building till your post. Your >> input >> adds to my knowledge and to my Honora McCue file. >> Cheers >> Greg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Wood" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta >> >> >>> Hi Greg, >>> >>> I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been >>> able >>> to >>> get much information except this below. I don't know that the building >>> in >>> Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary >>> barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or >>> barracks >>> somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to >>> Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear >>> from >>> anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. >>> >>> "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female >>> Factory >>> in >>> Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the >>> factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." >>> >>> Carol Wood >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to all for all the interesting replies on the Parramatta site. our ancestor Margaret Hughes AKA Mary Ann Whalan was sent there in 1830, we have tried long ago to find if there may be some records of her being there but had no luck. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Thanks Carol, > I was not aware of the location of the building till your post. Your input > adds to my knowledge and to my Honora McCue file. > Cheers > Greg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Wood" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > > >> Hi Greg, >> >> I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been able >> to >> get much information except this below. I don't know that the building >> in >> Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary >> barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or >> barracks >> somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to >> Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear from >> anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. >> >> "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory >> in >> Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the >> factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." >> >> Carol Wood >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lesley, Thankyou for your reply. It sounds as if the authorites began to established a slightly different system of controlling their wayward charges by the time they had the Female Factories operating. This would explain the comments in the piece written by Alan Eade.It all helps to develop the scenario for those days. Regards, Marie Head. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Women Transported: Life in Australia'sConvictFemaleFactories > Hi Marie > > Female convicts who arrived on the first fleet certainly were given the > lash. > > . > You may have to check the journals of Philip Gidley King for details > but.... > > Mary Gamble (Gambel, Gamol) had been sentenced to 12 dozen lashes on > Norfolk > Island for stealing - but then forgiven. A few months later she committed > another crime and was given 3 dozen lashes > > Also Ann Coombs 50 lashes for defrauding Thomas Jones of a quantity of > provisions and another 100 lashes for another crime > > There are others.... > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:[email protected] > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Marie Head > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:19 AM > To: Alan Eade; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Women Transported: Life in Australia's > ConvictFemaleFactories > > > It is with great interest I read the above article, & look forward to > visiting the exhibition. > One point I wish to comment on "Unlike their male counterparts, they were > spared the lash." > An ancestor , Elizabeth Hayward, arriving on the 'Lady Penryhn" with the > First Fleet, a child of 13-14 yrs, sentenced 7years for theft, was > assingned > to The Reverend Richard Johnson & his wife, as a servant, on arrival. > The chaplain charged her with insolence to his wife, & on 7th February > 1789,she is sentenced to receive 30 lashes. > I have a copy of the written entry recording this, but have never found > any > evidence that the sentence was carried out. Could the sentence be > appealed, > or reduced in any way? > Any suggestions? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks very much Lesley ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:48:09 +1000 >From: "Lesley Uebel" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] how to subscribe to aus-con-nsw? >To: <[email protected]> > > >Hi Julie > >There are a few convict related lists - apart from this Australia wide one, >there is one for NSW (Port Jackson), Tasmania and Western Australia. > >To join the NSW one > >http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page103.html > >Regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:[email protected] > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Julie Gough >Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:17 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [AUS-CON] how to subscribe to aus-con-nsw? > > > >hello listers > >how do I subscribe to aus-con-nsw? >and what are any other aus-con lists? > >thanks >Julie > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan You have been a very useful correspondent today. thanks for all your time and effort, much appreciated Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] Robert HUGHES > The reference Robert Hughes gives for his description of the female > factory at Parramatta on page 255 of The Fatal Shore is "Fyans to Col. > Sec. McLeay, Feb 16, 1834, NI Mutiny Papers, NSWA 4/1441. > > Happy hunting, > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Julie There are a few convict related lists - apart from this Australia wide one, there is one for NSW (Port Jackson), Tasmania and Western Australia. To join the NSW one http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page103.html Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Julie Gough Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-CON] how to subscribe to aus-con-nsw? hello listers how do I subscribe to aus-con-nsw? and what are any other aus-con lists? thanks Julie

hello listers how do I subscribe to aus-con-nsw? and what are any other aus-con lists? thanks Julie

The reference Robert Hughes gives for his description of the female factory at Parramatta on page 255 of The Fatal Shore is "Fyans to Col. Sec. McLeay, Feb 16, 1834, NI Mutiny Papers, NSWA 4/1441. Happy hunting, Jan

Surprisingly, Greg, you seem to accept this without mention of author or source. I can recall being told when I commenced my nursing training at the Sydney Children's Hospital (Camperdown) many years ago that the Parramatta Hospital at that time (1966) was on the site of the old Female Factory. Again, I have no proof. Would my noting of the source make it any more likely to be true? Cheers, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Thanks Carol, > I was not aware of the location of the building till your post. Your input > adds to my knowledge and to my Honora McCue file. > Cheers > Greg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Wood" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > > >> Hi Greg, >> >> I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been able >> to >> get much information except this below. I don't know that the building >> in >> Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary >> barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or >> barracks >> somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to >> Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear from >> anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. >> >> "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory >> in >> Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the >> factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." >> >> Carol Wood >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On to that at as well now Peter, thanks for the input. In fact any further comments from other listers on this topic will be most appreciated. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "PETER FERGUSON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > The other source worth checking is Manning Clark's "A History of > Australia" > Vol 1 page 240. > > Clark is excellent about convicts generally and gives many very > interesting > comments and contemporary quotes. > > Best regards > > Peter Ferguson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > > >> Thanks Jan >> I didn't think to use the Fatal Shore as a resource. I'll check it out >> and >> hope Hughes has footnoted his source. That may lead me somewhere. >> However, >> a >> description, as you have provided, is very useful. >> Cheers >> Greg >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The other source worth checking is Manning Clark's "A History of Australia" Vol 1 page 240. Clark is excellent about convicts generally and gives many very interesting comments and contemporary quotes. Best regards Peter Ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bugden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Thanks Jan > I didn't think to use the Fatal Shore as a resource. I'll check it out and > hope Hughes has footnoted his source. That may lead me somewhere. However, > a > description, as you have provided, is very useful. > Cheers > Greg > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Carol, I was not aware of the location of the building till your post. Your input adds to my knowledge and to my Honora McCue file. Cheers Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Wood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Hi Greg, > > I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been able > to > get much information except this below. I don't know that the building in > Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary > barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or > barracks > somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to > Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear from > anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. > > "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory > in > Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the > factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." > > Carol Wood > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Jan I didn't think to use the Fatal Shore as a resource. I'll check it out and hope Hughes has footnoted his source. That may lead me somewhere. However, a description, as you have provided, is very useful. Cheers Greg

To find in depth descriptions of the Female Factory at Parramatta I suggest Robert Hughes "The Fatal Shore". I quote..."The Female Factory was a loft above a gaol, some sixty feet by twenty. This loft was filthy and its floor could not, in any case, be washed, since its boards had warped so much that water went straight through the cracks onto the heads of prisoners in the cells below. The roof leaked, the privies stank, and the kitchen was just a fireplace. Here the women were expected to card and spin wool into yarn, and from the yarn weave the coarse "Parramatta cloth" from which the convicts winter clothes were made." The book goes on to describe the 'new' female factory built in Macquarie's time but it was still at Parramatta. There's quite a lot of detail for anyone interested. Good luck... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Wood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Female factory Parramatta > Hi Greg, > > I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been able > to > get much information except this below. I don't know that the building in > Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary > barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or > barracks > somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to > Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear from > anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. > > "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory > in > Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the > factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." > > Carol Wood > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Greg, I am also interested in the first female factory but have never been able to get much information except this below. I don't know that the building in Parramatta was a Female Factory, probably more like a women's temporary barracks. I believe there was also a very early female factory or barracks somewhere in the city, maybe Macquarie Street, which was later given to Caroline Chisholm to house immigrant women. I would be glad to hear from anyone who may know something about these two very early buildings. "Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory in Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today." Carol Wood

Hello My ancestor Honora McCue and her infant daughter Mary were sent to the Factory at Parramatta November 25 1818, after arriving on the "Elizabeth". This factory would have been the original building and not the larger structure built in 1821. However, I have never been able to find a picture of that old Building. Does anyone know if one exists? Greg

Thank you to everyone who has contacted me, I hope the information below will give you even more information than I provided last night. After NSW, the exhibition will go to Canberra in November then Hobart in January, then Brisbane in May, however check your local directories for venues and exact dates. One in five Australian women are descended from convict women so it's fitting that an exhibition telling the stories of those early arrivals will be held in Parramatta, one of the earliest European settlements. Parramatta's Prince Alfred Park was the site of the first Female Factory in Australia, in 1804. It then moved to Fleet Street and remains of the factory, which opened in 1821, can be seen today. Women Transported - Life in Australia's Convict Female Factories opens at the Parramatta Heritage Centre on August 2. The curator of the exhibition, Gay Hendriksen, said the stories that have come out of the factories were ``very wild, very sad and very interesting''. "These women are the mothers of our nation,'' Mrs Hendriksen said. "They were convict women waiting to be employed by free settlers, waiting to give birth and waiting to be married. Colonial men or convict men could come and ask for a wife and they'd have one hour to talk. The women could reject their request it was like speed dating.'' Mrs Hendriksen said all the women incarcerated in the female factories did laundry, weaved, spun fabrics and a variety of other work. Artifacts included in the exhibition were some of the "very few'' in existence that had a direct connection to these women, Mrs Hendriksen said. They include a christening gown, a laundry-thumper, spindle and bookmarks. Maureen Upfold, of Pennant ! Hills, is a descendent of two convict women Mary Wilson and Anne Dunne, who arrived in 1806 and 1831 respectively. Mrs Upfold has lent an ambrotype of Ms Dunne to the exhibition. "She was sent here for stealing linen and Mary Wilson for stealing household goods including pillow cases, stockings and butter - and she had five aliases,'' Mrs Upfold said. Both brought their young children with them, she said. Mrs Hendriksen said a series of public programs would be held in August-November to accompany the exhibition, which will later visit four states. The history of convict women had been largely ignored, Mrs Hendriksen said. "The first industrial action riot happened in 1827 at the Parramatta Female Factory when women demanded better food and working conditions.'' Details: For full event details visit www.parracity.nsw.gov.au or phone 8839 3311. Gay Hendriksen, Curator Parramatta Heritage and Visitor Information Centre PO Box 32 Parramatta NSW 2124 346A Church Street Parramatta NSW 2150 T 02 8839 3324 M 0404 834 541 F 02 9683 5608 [email protected] This exhibition includes rarely accessible objects from the early colony, art from significant Colonial artists and is drawn from national, state and regional public and private collections. Exhibition Themes: British historical/social context; journey to Colony; female factories - NSW, Queensland, Tasmania; life for convict women inside and outside the factory - pictures, personal items, things they used to wear, letters and diaries, etc. Including social structures, daily life and assignment; significance of the female factories. Through films, interactives and artefacts, "Women Transported" documents the women's pioneering work; their involvement in farming, producing export products and in forming our national character. Other info: Support Material includes Media kit, Tour Manual, Publications - catalogue DVD education kit and public programs relevant to all stages in the History and Culture and Society syllabus areas including Extension History. Woman transported: Life in Australia's convict Female Factories Gail Davis will be talking about life and conditions in the convict female factories. This talk is in conjunction with an exhibition. When and where? 11 September 9-12.00am at the Parramatta Heritage Centre, 346a Church St. Parramatta For more information: Contact: Katie Goldhammer (02) 8839 3324, (02)8839 3311