Dear Tracey, It was lovely to receive your cheery message and to hear that all is well. I'm glad to hear that Emily's rash is clearing up well. Mike seems to be keeping busy. You'll be pleased to have him to yourself for awhile when you travel to Tamworth on the weekend. You'll have a good choice of outfits from their shops at this time of year. Some of the new seasons fashions look really nice. We're having a cooler day today but it's been very summery since the beginning of September really. Hope it doesn't get too hot for a while yet. We'll be back in the pool before long. Shelley and Lachlan are both fairly well. Shell has a cough and sore throat which she can't seem to get rid of. She's going to the doctor about it today so hope he can help her . Lachie is taking part in a 70's dance with his class and has been practicing for that ...finding a suitable outfit was a challenge! His break up party for soccer is this weekend. He may be presented with a medallion as a participant which will delight him I'm sure. Fondest wishes to all of you, Jan

Thanks Lesley My story has been that I was told by someone that they had obtained a baptismal record for an 1833 St Marys Cathedral record but she could no longer find it. After a lot messing around the Qld Genealogical Society told me that SAG in Sydney had those records, I enquired and was hit by the $40.00 an hour which at that stage I could not afford. I also got the Qld State Library to check their records and they came up with nothing, though I believed they had the same records as NSW State Library. Recently I emailed the Catholic Church Archives, even knowing I was out of line. They advised me those records that did not make BDM were available at SAG, NSW State Library and National Library. I have contacted the NSW State Library and will see what happens. I know that record is somewhere as I believe the person who told me about it. If that fails, then I guess I fork out for SAGS, then every possible avenue has been investigated. So I guess its worth your trying too, Thanks Annette > > Well, last night I fished out another Vine Hall book, _Parish Registers > in Australia_ (2nd Ed), 1990. > > It is of course out of date - but, it *does* include a contact address > for Parramatta St Patrick's Cathedral (RC), with the comment that in > 1990, at least some parish registers of this NSW church were held by > Dean Brian Larkey. > > It also says (p10): > > "Although early New South Wales parish registers were called in by > Government authorities to the central registry for copying: in the > period from about 1900-1930, some churches did not surrender their > records for this purpose. This was particularly the case with the Roman > Catholic Church" > > Not my usual stamping ground ... but I *would* like to find the burial > of Margaret DAY :-) > > Cheers, > > > Lesley > (In cloudy Melbourne) > >> Does SAG really hold records that are no where else. I thought the State >> Library also held them. I have been looking for a baptism record for a >> long >> time, and it is not in the State Library, so maybe it is hidden away at >> SAG. >> The cost of having someone search for it at $40.00 an hour somewhat put >> me >> off, but I guess I will have to do it. >> >> Annette from Brisbane (cloudy today) >> >> <snip> >>> According to Vine-Hall, these records are held by the SAG. I'm wondering >>> is that's where Marcellas's christening record is, too, as it doesn't >>> appear in the NSW BDMs, despite his being born in the colony c1802 :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Lesley >>> (In now *cold* - again - Melbourne) >>> >>> >>>> His Description is as follows >>>> >>>> Aged: 23 Years >>>> Height 5 foot 9 Inches >>>> Skin: Sallow Complexion >>>> Hair: Light Brown >>>> Eyes: Grey >>>> *Religion: RC >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: >> 9/16/2008 7:06 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Annette, Well, last night I fished out another Vine Hall book, _Parish Registers in Australia_ (2nd Ed), 1990. It is of course out of date - but, it *does* include a contact address for Parramatta St Patrick's Cathedral (RC), with the comment that in 1990, at least some parish registers of this NSW church were held by Dean Brian Larkey. It also says (p10): "Although early New South Wales parish registers were called in by Government authorities to the central registry for copying: in the period from about 1900-1930, some churches did not surrender their records for this purpose. This was particularly the case with the Roman Catholic Church" Not my usual stamping ground ... but I *would* like to find the burial of Margaret DAY :-) Cheers, Lesley (In cloudy Melbourne) > Does SAG really hold records that are no where else. I thought the State > Library also held them. I have been looking for a baptism record for a long > time, and it is not in the State Library, so maybe it is hidden away at SAG. > The cost of having someone search for it at $40.00 an hour somewhat put me > off, but I guess I will have to do it. > > Annette from Brisbane (cloudy today) > > <snip> >> According to Vine-Hall, these records are held by the SAG. I'm wondering >> is that's where Marcellas's christening record is, too, as it doesn't >> appear in the NSW BDMs, despite his being born in the colony c1802 :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Lesley >> (In now *cold* - again - Melbourne) >> >> >>> His Description is as follows >>> >>> Aged: 23 Years >>> Height 5 foot 9 Inches >>> Skin: Sallow Complexion >>> Hair: Light Brown >>> Eyes: Grey >>> *Religion: RC >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM > >

Hi Lesley and Listers Does SAG really hold records that are no where else. I thought the State Library also held them. I have been looking for a baptism record for a long time, and it is not in the State Library, so maybe it is hidden away at SAG. The cost of having someone search for it at $40.00 an hour somewhat put me off, but I guess I will have to do it. Annette from Brisbane (cloudy today) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Albertson" <albertson@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... maybe a Catholic burial? > > Hi Sue and Listers, > > I have had another thought, about the missing Margaret DAY ... might she > have been given a Catholic burial, and the record not have found its way > to the NSW BDMs? > > A check of my trusty Vine-Hall shows that the first RC church in NSW was > St Patrick's, Parramatta, established in 1824. Margaret and Marcellas > were married in 1825 at St Luke's, Liverpool ... but, the description of > Marcellas says he was RC, so perhaps he had his wife buried as a Catholic? > > According to Vine-Hall, these records are held by the SAG. I'm wondering > is that's where Marcellas's christening record is, too, as it doesn't > appear in the NSW BDMs, despite his being born in the colony c1802 :-) > > Cheers, > > > Lesley > (In now *cold* - again - Melbourne) > >> His Description is as follows >> >> Aged: 23 Years >> Height 5 foot 9 Inches >> Skin: Sallow Complexion >> Hair: Light Brown >> Eyes: Grey >> *Religion: RC >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue and Listers, I have had another thought, about the missing Margaret DAY ... might she have been given a Catholic burial, and the record not have found its way to the NSW BDMs? A check of my trusty Vine-Hall shows that the first RC church in NSW was St Patrick's, Parramatta, established in 1824. Margaret and Marcellas were married in 1825 at St Luke's, Liverpool ... but, the description of Marcellas says he was RC, so perhaps he had his wife buried as a Catholic? According to Vine-Hall, these records are held by the SAG. I'm wondering is that's where Marcellas's christening record is, too, as it doesn't appear in the NSW BDMs, despite his being born in the colony c1802 :-) Cheers, Lesley (In now *cold* - again - Melbourne) > His Description is as follows > > Aged: 23 Years > Height 5 foot 9 Inches > Skin: Sallow Complexion > Hair: Light Brown > Eyes: Grey > *Religion: RC >

Hi Karen You did thank me :) The John Brunt who arrived into Port Jackson as a convict was born about 1807. I discounted him because you said that your John Brunt was born between 1822 and 1828. This one stated he was from Derbyshire regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen seckold Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:23 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Possible convict connection and question. Hi Lesley, They married in 9 jan 1852, in Geelong Victoria. I have the cert and all the kids from that marriage. My GGrandmother is one of them so I know it is right. So I didn't think what you sent me was the right one. He died 1903 in Melbourne but no parents listed on the cert. but he did say 52 years in Australia. This man was 49 for 3 years, fathered 3 children to his 3rd wife when he was 60+. His parents change on a few cert, just the mother and the place of birth. Might be 2 different people? I have confirmed the three marriages as his. What I am looking for is how did he get here and when. There was a convict in Tassie came out on the Emily but was not released until mar 1852. When he traveled to Melbourne I found a John Brunt convict from Sydney this morning will look into him but just don't know. I thought I thanked you, sorry about that. I get a bit mixed up sometimes! So thank you again. Great list by the way. Very helpful people. karen s Melbourne.

Hi Sue, That is very, very interesting :-) Margaret and Marcellas has already had one child, William Henry DAY, b 28 Oct 1826 in Parramatta. Could Margaret perhaps have returned to him for a time - or had some continuing relationship with him, as the father of her eldest son?.Was there some question about the paternity of her last two children, so that they were christened simply in her name? (The BLINMAN children have the mother's name as Margaret DAY, in the records - not simply as Margaret). All *kinds* of fascinating possibilities ... and, did Charles leave her out of his Will, because she had returned to her legal husband? Marcellas DAY certainly waited until 1851, before marrying Mary TAPPER, by which stage he was aged 49 ... had he been living with Margaret for at least part of the intervening years? Cheers, Lesley (In cool, changeable Melbourne) > Tried in the Quarter Sessions in LIVERPOOL NSW, 2nd January 1827 for Petit > Larceny Sentenced to 7 Years in Moreton Bay. > He returned to Sydney 4th July 1832 > > <snip> >

Hi Lesley, They married in 9 jan 1852, in Geelong Victoria. I have the cert and all the kids from that marriage. My GGrandmother is one of them so I know it is right. So I didn't think what you sent me was the right one. He died 1903 in Melbourne but no parents listed on the cert. but he did say 52 years in Australia. This man was 49 for 3 years, fathered 3 children to his 3rd wife when he was 60+. His parents change on a few cert, just the mother and the place of birth. Might be 2 different people? I have confirmed the three marriages as his. What I am looking for is how did he get here and when. There was a convict in Tassie came out on the Emily but was not released until mar 1852. When he traveled to Melbourne I found a John Brunt convict from Sydney this morning will look into him but just don't know. I thought I thanked you, sorry about that. I get a bit mixed up sometimes! So thank you again. Great list by the way. Very helpful people. karen s Melbourne.

> > Hi Lesley, The following is from the Chronological Register of Convicts in Moreton Bay (held by QSA) Arrived on the "ALLIGATOR" Schooner on 30th April 1827 Number 980 Name: Marcellis DAY " Born in the Colony" Occupation: Labourer Tried in the Quarter Sessions in LIVERPOOL NSW, 2nd January 1827 for Petit Larceny Sentenced to 7 Years in Moreton Bay. He returned to Sydney 4th July 1832 His Description is as follows Aged: 23 Years Height 5 foot 9 Inches Skin: Sallow Complexion Hair: Light Brown Eyes: Grey Religion: RC he subsequently received a Colonial Pardon 1st Feb 1833 in NSW (see State Records NSW ) I hope this adds a little more "Meat" to the bones so to speak Regards Sue.

Hi Karen In an email you sent me some weeks ago, you stated that he married Mary Anderson on 9th Jan 1852, but you now say 1851? I cannot find it in the BDMs. The information I sent regarding that convict appeared to match up pretty well with the other detail you gave me, such as age and place of birth. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Karen seckold Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:40 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Possible convict connection and question. Hi, Lesly sent me info as below. Coming out of Tassie to Melbourne. But, my John George Brunt married 1851 in Melbourne, first child born 1852. Is it possible it was him? Could he have got married, gone back to Tassie served his sentence or got pardoned? Long stretch but I cant find anyone close to my bloke! I have all the papers on this mans escape, etc but thought he was not mine??? Brunt John Steerage Halcyon 23 Mar 1852 Launceston Melbourne Emily Free by servitude POL220/1/1 p623 karen S Melbourne.

Hi, Lesly sent me info as below. Coming out of Tassie to Melbourne. But, my John George Brunt married 1851 in Melbourne, first child born 1852. Is it possible it was him? Could he have got married, gone back to Tassie served his sentence or got pardoned? Long stretch but I cant find anyone close to my bloke! I have all the papers on this mans escape, etc but thought he was not mine??? Brunt John Steerage Halcyon 23 Mar 1852 Launceston Melbourne Emily Free by servitude POL220/1/1 p623 karen S Melbourne.

thank you Teresa for the Wa group info I will go look. Ta karen S Melbourne.

Hi Kerry Have you joined W-AGenealogy@groups.msn.com I've had a lot of help from this group when I discovered half my tribe went to WA Best of luck Terese On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Karen seckold <kaz_57@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > Hello, > Not sure if I am allowed to do this? Hope I don't get into trouble. I am > still hoping for a convict! I have been told that a relative a William > Thomas Brunt, went to Western Australia and died over there. I have > found a possibility. William Thomas Brunt buried Karrakatta Cemetery > aged 77 years in 1959, along with wife Kate (Phillips). Trouble is my > William Thomas Brunt was supposed to have been born in 1867 in Victoria, > is it possible its him? They were married in 1913 cert no 17 at > Plantagent, Western Australia. I am trying to find out who this Williams > parents were to see if he is mine. Any one know how to do this without > buying the certificate first? I am on a very tight budget (Pensioner) If > its him I will get it eventually. there are no records of him here after > his birth and my grandfather told me his mother went to WA for the > funeral about 1950's. > > Hope someone can help me with this. Some great help is given to people > on this list and I am hoping I get some. :-) > > thank you very much > Karen Seckold. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Not sure if I am allowed to do this? Hope I don't get into trouble. I am still hoping for a convict! I have been told that a relative a William Thomas Brunt, went to Western Australia and died over there. I have found a possibility. William Thomas Brunt buried Karrakatta Cemetery aged 77 years in 1959, along with wife Kate (Phillips). Trouble is my William Thomas Brunt was supposed to have been born in 1867 in Victoria, is it possible its him? They were married in 1913 cert no 17 at Plantagent, Western Australia. I am trying to find out who this Williams parents were to see if he is mine. Any one know how to do this without buying the certificate first? I am on a very tight budget (Pensioner) If its him I will get it eventually. there are no records of him here after his birth and my grandfather told me his mother went to WA for the funeral about 1950's. Hope someone can help me with this. Some great help is given to people on this list and I am hoping I get some. :-) thank you very much Karen Seckold.

Hello Lesley, Re the Day family, our dads older brother David Hishion married a miss Day from the district you are mention,I will send this message on to our brother as he knows our cousin has the Day history and that may help the families who are researching this family. Kath From: "Lesley Albertson" <albertson@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... and the return of Marcellas, 1832 > Hi Sue, > > That is very, very interesting :-) > > Margaret and Marcellas has already had one child, William Henry DAY, b > 28 Oct 1826 in Parramatta. > > Could Margaret perhaps have returned to him for a time - or had some > continuing relationship with him, as the father of her eldest son?.Was > there some question about the paternity of her last two children, so > that they were christened simply in her name? > > (The BLINMAN children have the mother's name as Margaret DAY, in the > records - not simply as Margaret). > > All *kinds* of fascinating possibilities ... and, did Charles leave her > out of his Will, because she had returned to her legal husband? > > Marcellas DAY certainly waited until 1851, before marrying Mary TAPPER, > by which stage he was aged 49 ... had he been living with Margaret for > at least part of the intervening years? > > Cheers, > > > Lesley > (In cool, changeable Melbourne) > >> Tried in the Quarter Sessions in LIVERPOOL NSW, 2nd January 1827 for >> Petit >> Larceny Sentenced to 7 Years in Moreton Bay. >> He returned to Sydney 4th July 1832 >> >> <snip> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Lesley The reeves below belong to me but I have never discovered how he got here or what happened to him I have the history of Helen and the rest of them but nothing has ever come up about William It was just a long shot and when I thought about it a little more I realised he was not the fellow I was after. Geoff Thanks -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 6 September 2008 11:51 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Exile ships scheme Hi Geoff Do you mean the Northampton that arrived in NSW in 1880? >From the State Records of NSW - Assisted Immigrants REEVES Helen 27 and family Northampton Jan 1880 REEVES Helen 1 and family Northampton Jan 1880 REEVES Jessie 3 and family Northampton Jan 1880 REEVES William 7 and family Northampton Jan 1880 Given that the children were those of Helen (Ellen?) and William and the youngest being only one year old..... then I cannot see the father arriving as a convict or exile. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Geoff Reeves Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:15 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Exile ships scheme Joan I have been reading your emails and need to ask a question of you I have a William Reeves in my family tree that I have never been able to satisfactorily identify when He came to Australia or why. I have searched convict records no connection The George Smith Alias William Reeves may be a reason why I have not been able to trace the guy (outside Chance any way) Ellen(Helen)Reeves was accompanied by William Reeves (son) & Jessie Reeves (daughter) The Dates appear to be a close fit as his wife Ellen Reeves came out on the "Northampton" in 1850 and the documents indicate Husband all ready in the Colony Some major issue caused the family split almost on arrival, which has not ever been explained. Ring any bells that may help me Geoff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise, > ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH MARGARET MANSFIELD MARRIED MARCELLAS DAY 26 SEPT 1825 AT ST LUKES CHURCH IN LIVERPOOL, THEN IN 1827 MARCELLAS WAS CONVICTED OF STEALING A PIG AND SENT TO MORETON BAY,THEN HOOKED UP WITH Charles BLINMAN - convict arrived 15 April 1815 on `Indefatigable' and had 5 children to Margaret Day nee Mansfield. > Five children? I only have four: Mary Ann b 12 Oct 1828 Charles John b 1833 Elizabeth b 13 Mar 1835 George b 25 Nov 1838 Only these four are mentioned in his Will, which is undated (in the transcription I have), but mentions his son George BLINMAN, born 25 Nov 1838, so was obviously written after that. So, were more children born after the Will was made? Possible - Charles died 16 December 1842, and the last child born to Margaret DAY was born two days after that - 18 December 1842. Possible, I guess, that Charles simply did not update his Will to take account of the last two children ... but why was Margaret omitted from the Will, if she was still alive and bearing him children? Male chauvinism? (But even Shakespeare left his wife his second-best bed) :-) Cheers, Lesley (In cold, windy Melbourne)

It is on Ancestry....I will see if I can send you a copy. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Albertson" <albertson@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... re-married, NSW,1839? [Princess Royal] > Hi Kerry, > > I wonder, could you give me the reference for that? > > Princess Royal is listed in Blaxland/Oz Ships a a convict ship arriving > 9 May 1823 ... but the convicts/passengers are not listed there. > > Thanks :-) > > > Lesley > (In now grey, overcast Melbourne) > >> Margaret Day wife of Marcella Day arrived on the Princess Royal in 1823. >> She is oted as Marcella's wife. >> Regards, >> kerry >> > <snip> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kerry, I wonder, could you give me the reference for that? Princess Royal is listed in Blaxland/Oz Ships a a convict ship arriving 9 May 1823 ... but the convicts/passengers are not listed there. Thanks :-) Lesley (In now grey, overcast Melbourne) > Margaret Day wife of Marcella Day arrived on the Princess Royal in 1823. > She is oted as Marcella's wife. > Regards, > kerry > <snip>

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