Hello All Does anybody out there know what "unlawfully grounding" means ? My GG Grandfather was found guilty of this in Tasmania in 1869 and was sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He had received his free cert in 1853. I thought that it may possibly be using someone else's land ? Thanks. Jane Elliott
Just to correct my previous email. I said that the headstones removed were now included on that web site... unfortunately they are not available and are only available, for purchase, through the Cape Banks Family History Society. I don't know if they provide free lookups, so the book I mentioned may be a better bet. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:44 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Scottish Archives Precognitions Hi Kerri There is a book available about the Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901 and History of Sydney's Early Cemeteries from 1788 by Johnson and Saintly and you will find a copy of this is many libraries..... some listers may have a copy of it. The headstones were moved to a variety of locations, but you could check the Botany Cemetery at: http://www.esmp.net.au/index.htm This web site is searchable - go to Search & Map facility on the left hand side.
Hi Kerri Just a few corrections to ensure your records are correct. Ann and Bernard/Barnard had both received Conditional Pardons by the time they had died. A Conditional Pardon allowed them much more freedom than just a Ticket of Leave - it gave them freedom (although not being allowed to leave the colony at that stage) :) whereas a TOL could be revoked at any time and had certain restrictions. Being in possession of a TOL still meant that you were classed as a convict. You also stated that you had received the marriage certificate for Elizabeth Hughes. This was not a marriage certificate but a church record of their marriage. Some people say that they don't contain very much information, but I don't agree with them, as they often include some clues.... as your one did. It sounds to me as though you have found the correct marriage because of the inclusion of the witnesses. You also say that you are unsure if Robert Gallagher, Gallocher and Callocher and any other variations of the spelling is the person who was convicted in Scotland at the same time. Have you found his death records ? as this may state the number of years in the colony. Have you obtained the birth certificates of any children born or died after 1856, as these also may provide further evidence. Then, on the other hand, they may not provide you with any concrete. There was no convict by the name of Henry Ledge to arrive as a convict. There was a convict by the name of Henry Lodge who arrived in 1836 on the ":Lady Kennaway" and was free by 1842. There is a book available about the Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901 and History of Sydney's Early Cemeteries from 1788 by Johnson and Saintly and you will find a copy of this is many libraries..... some listers may have a copy of it. The headstones were moved to a variety of locations, but you could check the Botany Cemetery at: http://www.esmp.net.au/index.htm This web site is searchable - go to Search & Map facility on the left hand side. Are you certain that all the children were taken from Ann on arrival? A child of the age of 3 was sometimes still feeding from her mothers breast and was therefore allowed to stay with the mother at the Factory. That's it for now regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:00 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Scottish Archives Precognitions Leslie, To jog your memory. Ann Goldie (alias Hughes) arrived on the Louisa in 1827 with 4 little girls. Mary Ann (11) Isabella (7) Margaret (5) Elizabeth (3) All taken from her as she was put into the Female factory. I come from Margaret's line and doing pretty well with her but want to know about the other girls. I am following all leads as per your suggestions in the previous email below. I have now found on that (Marriage Certificate) that Elizabeth did marry one Robert Gallocher (you may remember that Ann Goldie was and her husband were convicted along with two teenage boys and that it occurred to me that Elizabeth may have actually married one of those boys when he arrived in the colony as the spelling of his name was different but sounded similar. (Robert Gallocher/Callocher). The Certificate arrived but did not give me the clues I was seeking. There is no age for Elizabeth Hughes given - just that she was a spinster. If it is the right Elizabeth she would have been about 18 in 1842 at the time of this marriage so the time is okay. Still don't know if it the same "Robert". I was disappointed until I decided to look up the witnesses. Henry Ledge and Mary Ledge. That marriage told me that Mary Ledge was originally Mary HUGHES! This may be Mary Ann - Elizabeth's big sister !!!! It was an exciting find BUT doesn't help a great deal as I see poor Henry Ledge died a year later! Poor Mary ...... what a life! I would have thought Mary would have remarried . There is a Mary LODGE married to a John Robinson in 1855. Could be her with a different spelling? Does anyone know if Henry Ledge was a convict? Maybe that would help me with some clues. These girls are proving very elusive but does go to show how checking every detail even the witnesses can lead to something. That is, IF this is Elizabeth's sister. It seems Ann and Bernard Hughes died soon after receiving their TOL's (they were older parents of a young family when they arrived) but it looks like the girls may have stayed "close". I am no closer to knowing if this Robert Gallocher/Callocher is the same one convicted along with the girls' parents. Has anyone any ideas? Also - is there a list anywhere of the names of the graves that were moved from Central (Railway Site). I'm struck by the "small" community Sydney town really was in those early days - so many connections between folk. Kind regards,
Hi Rhoda, if you email Christina she will be happy to let you know where and when. Cheers Karen -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandROverson Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 7:16 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta Hi Kerri Do you know when the exhibition is coming to the UK and where it is being exhibited in the UK? I sympathise with your feelings about Australia's children growing up knowing more about the history of other countries than they do their own. I am a Scot and when I left school I knew far more about English history than I did about Scottish history. I didn't really think about it at the time, but years later I get really angry that I left school knowing so little about my own country's past. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta >I Listers, > > I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a > Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. > There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets > which > represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you > move > along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of > love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply moved. > There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming > up > on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" > history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there > is > a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has > appeared > on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself > thinking think "hey, I know you!" > > It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running > at > the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the > bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section > about > the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which they > become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can > "feel" > the love sewn into every stitch. > > I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women who > did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real > joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our > heritage. > > I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I > was > disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick > wall > when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It > seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. > > Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and > that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other > countries than they do their own. This made me furious! > > I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on > those > who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet > countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more > recognition. > > I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone > can > view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is > trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The > exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is > permanently > housed here in Australia. > > I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those > poor > wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. > But > I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who > seem > more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst > preventing us from appreciating our own. > > Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of > history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support > this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost > single-handedly to make us aware of our history. > > Well worth the effort! > > By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a > pattern > available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story > and > you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a > couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might > be > great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already > over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet > half-way. > > Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. > > Kerri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen seckold > Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > Hello karen, > Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from > Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women > convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one > has been made for your convicts. > > Karen s > Hoppers Crossing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi All I too made bonnets for my 3 GGG Grandmother's, this morning I drove into Parramatta to deliver them to Christina who kindly placed them on the wall for me. I was just so moved by all the bonnets on display. I then took a walk down to the Parramatta Heritage Centre to see the "Women Transported" Exhibition, well worth the visit I must say! The displays are very interesting and informative. There were more bonnets on display there. Truly people, if you can visit one of the exhibitions please do so, ask Christina when and where they will be, she would be delighted to hear from you. Cheers Karen -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Robinson Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 3:41 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Convict ladies - Bonnets and Boats exhibition To all interested in the Bonnets & Boats Display. Check out www.christinahenri.com.au WWW.femalefactory.com.au Patterns are available through Christina Henri and/or the Female Factory. This site won't allow me to show you some of my photos taken in March at the 'Blessing of the Bonnets' at the Old Geelong Gaol. A very moving day for all who attended. Colleen R. descandant of two convict ladies.. Yes, I made each a bonnet that were blessed and are part of the display. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Leslie, To jog your memory. Ann Goldie (alias Hughes) arrived on the Louisa in 1827 with 4 little girls. Mary Ann (11) Isabella (7) Margaret (5) Elizabeth (3) All taken from her as she was put into the Female factory. I come from Margaret's line and doing pretty well with her but want to know about the other girls. I am following all leads as per your suggestions in the previous email below. I have now found on that (Marriage Certificate) that Elizabeth did marry one Robert Gallocher (you may remember that Ann Goldie was and her husband were convicted along with two teenage boys and that it occurred to me that Elizabeth may have actually married one of those boys when he arrived in the colony as the spelling of his name was different but sounded similar. (Robert Gallocher/Callocher). The Certificate arrived but did not give me the clues I was seeking. There is no age for Elizabeth Hughes given - just that she was a spinster. If it is the right Elizabeth she would have been about 18 in 1842 at the time of this marriage so the time is okay. Still don't know if it the same "Robert". I was disappointed until I decided to look up the witnesses. Henry Ledge and Mary Ledge. That marriage told me that Mary Ledge was originally Mary HUGHES! This may be Mary Ann - Elizabeth's big sister !!!! It was an exciting find BUT doesn't help a great deal as I see poor Henry Ledge died a year later! Poor Mary ...... what a life! I would have thought Mary would have remarried . There is a Mary LODGE married to a John Robinson in 1855. Could be her with a different spelling? Does anyone know if Henry Ledge was a convict? Maybe that would help me with some clues. These girls are proving very elusive but does go to show how checking every detail even the witnesses can lead to something. That is, IF this is Elizabeth's sister. It seems Ann and Bernard Hughes died soon after receiving their TOL's (they were older parents of a young family when they arrived) but it looks like the girls may have stayed "close". I am no closer to knowing if this Robert Gallocher/Callocher is the same one convicted along with the girls' parents. Has anyone any ideas? Also - is there a list anywhere of the names of the graves that were moved from Central (Railway Site). I'm struck by the "small" community Sydney town really was in those early days - so many connections between folk. Kind regards, Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Friday, 5 September 2008 12:33 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Scottish Archives Precognitions It may not be correct - but worth checking the film. I did check for her death with parents named but couldn't find it, although parents names are not always noted or known at the time. The only deaths I could find with those parents named are: 6455/1887 MACKEON ELIZABETH BERNARD ANN DUBBO 6455/1887 MCKEON ELIZABETH BERNARD ANN DUBBO 6888/1898 THOMSON ELIZABETH BARNARD ANN RANDWICK An Elizabeth Gallagher married a William Thomson at Scot's Church in Sydney: V18541010 81/1854 THOMPSON WILLIAM GALLAGHER ELIZABETH QC All needs checking - but that's what family history research is all about. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:57 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Scottish Archives Precognitions Thanks for that Lesley, I think I will give it go - just needed a little nudge ........... appreciate it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
To all interested in the Bonnets & Boats Display. Check out www.christinahenri.com.au WWW.femalefactory.com.au Patterns are available through Christina Henri and/or the Female Factory. This site won't allow me to show you some of my photos taken in March at the 'Blessing of the Bonnets' at the Old Geelong Gaol. A very moving day for all who attended. Colleen R. descandant of two convict ladies.. Yes, I made each a bonnet that were blessed and are part of the display. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Lesley Sorry if I misunderstand you, but are you saying that the actual physical gravestones are being sold? Regards Russell -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: 19 September 2008 10:03 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Scottish Archives Precognitions Just to correct my previous email. I said that the headstones removed were now included on that web site... unfortunately they are not available and are only available, for purchase, through the Cape Banks Family History Society. I don't know if they provide free lookups, so the book I mentioned may be a better bet. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html
Jane, Would it have anything to do with grounding a ship ie running a ship aground - unlawfully? Gerry -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jane Sent: 19 September 2008 13:17 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Definition of a crime Hello All Does anybody out there know what "unlawfully grounding" means ? My GG Grandfather was found guilty of this in Tasmania in 1869 and was sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He had received his free cert in 1853. I thought that it may possibly be using someone else's land ? Thanks. Jane Elliott ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Kim >From The Archives of Scotland Assoilzied (Assoilzied simpliciter) To free, or to be absolved of guilt. and Diet deserted A sitting abandoned. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kim and Daz Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] explanations I know this is probably a really silly question - but I am sadly (to me) still a novice at the family history research and meanings associated with convicts. Could someone please tell me what these terms mean: Diet temporarily deserted And Assoilzied simpliciter and dismissed Previous convictions Thanks so much Kim
I know this is probably a really silly question - but I am sadly (to me) still a novice at the family history research and meanings associated with convicts. Could someone please tell me what these terms mean: Diet temporarily deserted And Assoilzied simpliciter and dismissed Previous convictions Thanks so much Kim
Thank you so much for that Kerri. I think this is the exhibition that is going to be in Qld and Tas later on. Is someone able to give me the dates please? Thank you Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta >I Listers, > > I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a > Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. > There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets > which > represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you > move > along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of > love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply moved. > There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming > up > on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" > history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there > is > a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has > appeared > on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself > thinking think "hey, I know you!" > > It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running > at > the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the > bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section > about > the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which they > become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can > "feel" > the love sewn into every stitch. > > I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women who > did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real > joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our > heritage. > > I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I > was > disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick > wall > when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It > seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. > > Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and > that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other > countries than they do their own. This made me furious! > > I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on > those > who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet > countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more > recognition. > > I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone > can > view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is > trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The > exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is > permanently > housed here in Australia. > > I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those > poor > wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. > But > I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who > seem > more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst > preventing us from appreciating our own. > > Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of > history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support > this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost > single-handedly to make us aware of our history. > > Well worth the effort! > > By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a > pattern > available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story > and > you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a > couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might > be > great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already > over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet > half-way. > > Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. > > Kerri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen seckold > Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > Hello karen, > Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from > Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women > convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one > has been made for your convicts. > > Karen s > Hoppers Crossing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1679 - Release Date: 9/18/2008 5:03 PM
Hi Karen Thanks. I'll do that. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Fountaine" <karenf@pnc.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > Hi Rhoda, if you email Christina she will be happy to let you know where > and > when. > > Cheers > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandROverson > Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 7:16 AM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > Hi Kerri > > Do you know when the exhibition is coming to the UK and where it is being > exhibited in the UK? > > I sympathise with your feelings about Australia's children growing up > knowing more about the history of other countries than they do their own. > I > > am a Scot and when I left school I knew far more about English history > than > I did about Scottish history. I didn't really think about it at the time, > but years later I get really angry that I left school knowing so little > about my own country's past. > > Rhoda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > >>I Listers, >> >> I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a >> Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. >> There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets >> which >> represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you >> move >> along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of >> love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply >> moved. >> There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming >> up >> on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" >> history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there >> is >> a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has >> appeared >> on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself >> thinking think "hey, I know you!" >> >> It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running >> at >> the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the >> bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section >> about >> the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which >> they >> become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can >> "feel" >> the love sewn into every stitch. >> >> I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women >> who >> did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real >> joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our >> heritage. >> >> I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I >> was >> disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick >> wall >> when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It >> seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. >> >> Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and >> that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other >> countries than they do their own. This made me furious! >> >> I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on >> those >> who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet >> countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more >> recognition. >> >> I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone >> can >> view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is >> trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The >> exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is >> permanently >> housed here in Australia. >> >> I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those >> poor >> wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. >> But >> I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who >> seem >> more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst >> preventing us from appreciating our own. >> >> Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of >> history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support >> this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost >> single-handedly to make us aware of our history. >> >> Well worth the effort! >> >> By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a >> pattern >> available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story >> and >> you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a >> couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might >> be >> great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already >> over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet >> half-way. >> >> Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. >> >> Kerri >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen seckold >> Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM >> To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists >> Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta >> >> Hello karen, >> Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from >> Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women >> convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one >> has been made for your convicts. >> >> Karen s >> Hoppers Crossing. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I Listers, I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets which represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you move along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply moved. There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming up on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there is a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has appeared on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself thinking think "hey, I know you!" It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running at the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section about the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which they become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can "feel" the love sewn into every stitch. I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women who did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our heritage. I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I was disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick wall when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other countries than they do their own. This made me furious! I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on those who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more recognition. I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone can view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is permanently housed here in Australia. I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those poor wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. But I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who seem more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst preventing us from appreciating our own. Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost single-handedly to make us aware of our history. Well worth the effort! By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a pattern available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story and you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might be great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet half-way. Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen seckold Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta Hello karen, Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one has been made for your convicts. Karen s Hoppers Crossing. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Kerri Do you know when the exhibition is coming to the UK and where it is being exhibited in the UK? I sympathise with your feelings about Australia's children growing up knowing more about the history of other countries than they do their own. I am a Scot and when I left school I knew far more about English history than I did about Scottish history. I didn't really think about it at the time, but years later I get really angry that I left school knowing so little about my own country's past. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " <kerri.ferguson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta >I Listers, > > I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a > Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. > There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets > which > represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you > move > along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of > love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply moved. > There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming > up > on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" > history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there > is > a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has > appeared > on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself > thinking think "hey, I know you!" > > It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running > at > the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the > bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section > about > the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which they > become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can > "feel" > the love sewn into every stitch. > > I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women who > did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real > joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our > heritage. > > I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I > was > disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick > wall > when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It > seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. > > Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and > that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other > countries than they do their own. This made me furious! > > I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on > those > who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet > countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more > recognition. > > I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone > can > view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is > trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The > exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is > permanently > housed here in Australia. > > I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those > poor > wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. > But > I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who > seem > more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst > preventing us from appreciating our own. > > Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of > history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support > this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost > single-handedly to make us aware of our history. > > Well worth the effort! > > By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a > pattern > available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story > and > you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a > couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might > be > great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already > over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet > half-way. > > Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. > > Kerri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen seckold > Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > Hello karen, > Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from > Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women > convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one > has been made for your convicts. > > Karen s > Hoppers Crossing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello karen, Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one has been made for your convicts. Karen s Hoppers Crossing.
just a note to let you all know , mary Tapper that married marcellas Day was previously married to george Tapper in 1842. her maiden name was Burke, they had one daughter Mary in 1846, then George died in 1849 Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460 > From: kcon@tsn.cc> To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:13:57 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... and the return of Marcellas, 1832> > Hello Lesley,> Re the Day family, our dads older brother David Hishion married a miss Day > from the district you are mention,I will send this message on to our brother > as he knows our cousin has the Day history and that may help the families > who are researching this family.> Kath> From: "Lesley Albertson" <albertson@exemail.com.au>> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:53 PM> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... and the return of Marcellas, 1832> > > > Hi Sue,> >> > That is very, very interesting :-)> >> > Margaret and Marcellas has already had one child, William Henry DAY, b> > 28 Oct 1826 in Parramatta.> >> > Could Margaret perhaps have returned to him for a time - or had some> > continuing relationship with him, as the father of her eldest son?.Was> > there some question about the paternity of her last two children, so> > that they were christened simply in her name?> >> > (The BLINMAN children have the mother's name as Margaret DAY, in the> > records - not simply as Margaret).> >> > All *kinds* of fascinating possibilities ... and, did Charles leave her> > out of his Will, because she had returned to her legal husband?> >> > Marcellas DAY certainly waited until 1851, before marrying Mary TAPPER,> > by which stage he was aged 49 ... had he been living with Margaret for> > at least part of the intervening years?> >> > Cheers,> >> >> > Lesley> > (In cool, changeable Melbourne)> >> >> Tried in the Quarter Sessions in LIVERPOOL NSW, 2nd January 1827 for > >> Petit> >> Larceny Sentenced to 7 Years in Moreton Bay.> >> He returned to Sydney 4th July 1832> >>> >> <snip>> >>> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT
Thanks for the message, how would I go about paying tribute to the convict grandmothers I have? Cheers Karen -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of christina henri Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 7:42 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta If you are visiting Parramatta to see the exhibition 'Women Transported' walk the extra 5 minutes to the Parramatta Artist Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, right next door to St. John's Cathedral to see well over a thousand bonnets in a unique display portraying the convict women story. So far 11,000 people have paid tribute to their female convict ancestors or have 'adopted' a female convict to learn about and commemorate. This number is almost half the number required to achieve Roses from the Heart's objective of a permanent public Memorial to ALL convict women transported to Australia. For more details look under Events at artist Christina Henri's website: www.christinahenri.com.au ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If you are visiting Parramatta to see the exhibition 'Women Transported' walk the extra 5 minutes to the Parramatta Artist Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, right next door to St. John's Cathedral to see well over a thousand bonnets in a unique display portraying the convict women story. So far 11,000 people have paid tribute to their female convict ancestors or have 'adopted' a female convict to learn about and commemorate. This number is almost half the number required to achieve Roses from the Heart's objective of a permanent public Memorial to ALL convict women transported to Australia. For more details look under Events at artist Christina Henri's website: www.christinahenri.com.au
hi listers these are the nsw bdm records of his marriage to mary tapper does anyone have a copy of either? JV1851342 80/1851 DAY MASSELLES TAPPER MARY PG Presbyterian Illawarra District, Kiama V18514487 74B/1851 DAY MASSELLES TAPPER MARY JC Presbyterian Wollongong Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:25:28 +1000> From: sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Margaret DAY ... re-married, NSW, 1839? [Thanks!]> > >> > Hi Lesley,> > > The following is from the Chronological Register of Convicts in Moreton Bay> (held by QSA)> > > Arrived on the "ALLIGATOR" Schooner on 30th April 1827> > Number 980 Name: Marcellis DAY " Born in the> Colony" Occupation: Labourer> > Tried in the Quarter Sessions in LIVERPOOL NSW, 2nd January 1827 for Petit> Larceny Sentenced to 7 Years in Moreton Bay.> He returned to Sydney 4th July 1832> > His Description is as follows> > Aged: 23 Years> Height 5 foot 9 Inches> Skin: Sallow Complexion> Hair: Light Brown> Eyes: Grey> Religion: RC> > he subsequently received a Colonial Pardon 1st Feb 1833 in NSW (see State> Records NSW )> > > I hope this adds a little more "Meat" to the bones so to speak> > Regards> > Sue.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you paid what you're worth? Find out: SEEK Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcareer%2Dresources%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Asc%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_salary&_m=EXT