hi Marg M can you please forward any relevant info on Margaret day to me please Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:15:03 +1000> Subject: [AUS-CON] Margt DAY & Chas BLINMAN> > > > Were quite a few posts on these two a few days ago . While looking > for other info at my local FHS library today I happened to notice > there are a couple of pages of misc BLINMAN info in the Liverpool > Pioneers book. I took note of the persons details who submitted this > info to the Liverpool FHS ........> > > > Bye> > MargM> Member of> Central Coast FHS> Gosford> NSW> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you a friend magnet? Play now to win prizes for you and your friends! http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/106906016/direct/01/?href=http://www.friendmagnet.com.au

Gerry, You will find most states who had convicts have info on them. If you could be a little more specific which state they came to then it will probably be a bit easier to help you. The folks here are very helpful and will assist you in anyway we can.. usually there is at least on person who will do a lookup for you depending on what your asking for of course. To add to Marg M's advice earlier. Queensland also had convicts and yes we do have records though they are not online as yet. (the specific Moreton Bay records) which were in fact part of New South Wales (we didnt achieve separation until 1859) However if you look at www.slq.qld.gov.au you will find a link to 120,000 convicts which came to australia... out of about 166,000. A few of mine are not there... so dont be too disheartened if they are not there there are miles of sources for convicts in Australia. As to what happened to them after they were released from their servitude. there are many options. they could have been involved in the Gold Rush... perhaps they settled with some land somewhere in which case there would be records with both of those... again depending where will depend on the quality. Also they may have returned to wherever they came from. A look at the state in which they served as convicts usually would be the first place you would start to search with Births Deaths and Marriages. and then look at the states surrounding it. (Victoria was in the midst of the massive Gold Rush in the 1850's) Queensland had big Gold Rushes up north too at around that time.. and a bit after. and im sure NSW was as well somewhere. Also if you look at immigration records around that time you might find their families have joined them in Australia. If you look at Coraweb as suggested by Carol.... you will find a wealth of information including links to finding their trial info. If your convict was a convict of New South Wales or Tasmania you are especially in luck as most of their information has been indexed and is available online. hope this helps you below are a few websites that will most likely be of assistance. State Library Queensland : www.slq.qld.gov.au Queensland Births Deaths and Marriages online search facility: https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m New South Wales State Records Office: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au New South Wales Births Deaths and Marriages online search facility: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm Convicts Australia: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/cons.htm Proceedings of the Old Bailey in London (court records): http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ Archives office of Tasmania online search facility: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 Regards Sue.

Hi, The State Library of NSW has come up with a great new website of convict pictures, documents, maps etc. http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/history_nation/terra_australis /index.html Carol

Hi, Try http://www.coraweb.com.au/convict.htm for suggested websites. Carol

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Newnham" <[email protected]> To: "Aus-Convicts List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:21 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] Convicts Hi Gerry With any mailing lists the subject header is the messages advert to encourage other subscribers to read it . Pretty sure you could have come up with something abit more catchy than 'Convicts' on the AUS-CONVICTS mailing list > I am new to this list and hope that someone might be able to help > with a > query about two convicts. Possibly > > I am looking for information about where to look for records of > convicts who > served their time and where they might have gone. Much depends on who, when and where Is this the right place to > ask or is there another list I should try? There are other convict lists for WA ( Western Australia) TAS ( Tasmania) and Port Jackson ( Sydney/ NSW) ?? When posting on any foreign list, particulary when you ask where you should look, its not a bad move to give a clue to your location , otherwise you could be easily advised to go to say to NSW State Records out at Kingswood Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Were quite a few posts on these two a few days ago . While looking for other info at my local FHS library today I happened to notice there are a couple of pages of misc BLINMAN info in the Liverpool Pioneers book. I took note of the persons details who submitted this info to the Liverpool FHS ........ Bye MargM Member of Central Coast FHS Gosford NSW

Hi List, I am new to this list and hope that someone might be able to help with a query about two convicts. I am looking for information about where to look for records of convicts who served their time and where they might have gone. Is this the right place to ask or is there another list I should try? Gerry

G'day... I'm still searching for records for my ancestor, John HAYNES (or HAINES) who married Mary SLOMAN in Melbourne in 1849. Their five children were born in different mining towns in Victoria. Children's names were Emma, Francis, John, Elizabeth and Maria. After Mary died in 1860, the remaining family came to NSW, some of them settling around Cootamundra, Temora and Forbes. Some of Frank's children were born at Mandauba and Tulloona Station. I have read a little about Jack Haynes Cottage at Saumarez, near Armidale and wondered whether there could be a connection. It was said to have been built by ticket-of-leave Builder of this name who lived for years on the property with some of his family and the White family.. As gold was not discovered til 1851, he was in the country before this happened, although he subsequently spent much of his life searching for it and son, Frank, lived at McHenry's Creek near Lambing Flat Gold Mines. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jan

Thanks for that Dianne, I will try that. I have names, dates, departure port and name of ship which should help. I don't know for definite if anyone from my Fowler bunch came to Australia before me. I have the line in pretty good detail back to 1812 and one or two have dissappeared into thin air so to speak. If there weren't a villain in the bunch I'd be surprised. I'm sure if one or two of them felt like a free trip, the thought of nicking a chicken or two wouldn't have stopped them. My 2xgreat grandfather married an Ellington girl. Her sister married a Sharman and the Sharmans seem to have made a good try at filling up Tasmania after 1853. Suddenly Fowlers appear in that tree with the Sharmans and I wondered wether those Fowlers had anything to do with mine. I have the impression that the records for convicts is probably better than that of the free settlers and law abiders so I would start there. I did notice in the Tasmanian conduct records one convict was fined 2 pounds for keeping an unlicensed dog! Thats probably a bigger fine than one would have to pay today. Regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Snowden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Convict FOWLERS > Dear Ted > > Generally speaking, the Tasmanian convict records are arranged by ship and > then alphabetically by first letter (so Fowler will be somewhere in the > 'F's > but not necessarily in strict alphabetical order - the records are > actually > ordered by trial place but that doesn't help if you don't know the place > of > trial!). > > Lesley is correct in that it does help to have more information than a > surname if you are searching for a particular convict. A first name and > approximate date of arrival is a good start. Assuming you are not just > collecting FOWLER convicts, my first question to you would be: why do you > think the person you are looking for was a convict? > > I have written below the steps that I take to find a Tasmanian convict. I > hope it helps. > > Go to: > > http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/ > > http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes > > Go to Tasmanian Convicts in the list of name indexes > > Search for the name [eg FOWLER John}] > > The result will look like this: > > 24551 Fowler John 13 Jan 1842 Barossa(1) 30 August 1841 Sheerness > > Click on the database number [eg 24551] > > This will bring you to a page headed 'Item Details' which has 'view this > record online'. Click on this. > > This will bring you to the online images for the Barrossa (1). > > On the right hand side, you can use the image number box to skip pages. > There are 367 pages for this ship I guessed that around about 100 would > get > me close to 'F' so I put '100' in the box and came up with a name starting > with F. (it actually starts on p.97 and goes through to p.108) John Fowler > is on p.99. All this took only a few minutes. There may be an easier way > but > this works for me. > > With best wishes > Dianne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3469 (20080924) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > >

Dear Ted Generally speaking, the Tasmanian convict records are arranged by ship and then alphabetically by first letter (so Fowler will be somewhere in the 'F's but not necessarily in strict alphabetical order - the records are actually ordered by trial place but that doesn't help if you don't know the place of trial!). Lesley is correct in that it does help to have more information than a surname if you are searching for a particular convict. A first name and approximate date of arrival is a good start. Assuming you are not just collecting FOWLER convicts, my first question to you would be: why do you think the person you are looking for was a convict? I have written below the steps that I take to find a Tasmanian convict. I hope it helps. Go to: http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/ http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/nameindexes Go to Tasmanian Convicts in the list of name indexes Search for the name [eg FOWLER John}] The result will look like this: 24551 Fowler John 13 Jan 1842 Barossa(1) 30 August 1841 Sheerness Click on the database number [eg 24551] This will bring you to a page headed 'Item Details' which has 'view this record online'. Click on this. This will bring you to the online images for the Barrossa (1). On the right hand side, you can use the image number box to skip pages. There are 367 pages for this ship I guessed that around about 100 would get me close to 'F' so I put '100' in the box and came up with a name starting with F. (it actually starts on p.97 and goes through to p.108) John Fowler is on p.99. All this took only a few minutes. There may be an easier way but this works for me. With best wishes Dianne

Thanks to all and Lesley as usual helpful and easy to understand even late in the day regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Convict FOWLERS > > Hi Ted > > With the Tasmanian Conduct records, they are arranged alphabetically by > year of > arrival. As you will know the year of arrival, then it is quite easy to > flick > through to the particular year and then go through page by page. > > You can test this out by going to the first page and checking the first > year of > arrival - then go to the last page and again check the arrival year of > those > convicts. Let us say 1823 is the first and 1850 is the last and your > convict > arrived about 1837, you would go to abut half way of the pages available > and > check those. > > That sounds a bit convoluted - but it's late :) > > > You really have to know the name (both Christian and Surname) of your > convict > before commencing any research. > > regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:[email protected] > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ted & Magi > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-CON] Convict FOWLERS > > > The State Library of Queensland has produced a Convict transportation > register > on line which gave me 77 convicts named FOWLER transported between 1787 > and > 1867. The Tasmanian archives also give FOWLERS sent to Tasmania between > 1823 and > 1850. The Tasmanian site has references and links to further information > about > the convicts including a digitalised volume on conduct records. Very > interesting > but 188 unindexed pages takes a fairly long time to download and browse > page by > page. > I am sure some lister has followed these links before and may care to > share > their experience on how to find the most information on line. I'm happy > enough > to visit a library or family history centre but I'm a fair way away from a > large > centre and I'd like to know what to look for before I arrive. > TIA > Ted > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3467 (20080924) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > >

Hi again Rhoda....... hope your weather is improved. We are enjoying Spring in Sydney and it's been GORGEOUS! Now I have a little more information on Christina Henri (pronounced 'on-re') and her intentions for her exhibition. Please note that none of this is confirmed as yet - it is the "plan" at the moment. Next year, Christina is hoping to take the bonnets to the Hunter Region of NSW next year. Christina says she is planning on "taking the girls back home to England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales in 2010" In 2011, she hopes to get the exhibition to Canada, USA and New Zealand. I don't know if that is any help to you but it is the best I can do at the moment. As soon as I hear anything "firm" I will definitely post it on this site. I hope the ancestors of the convict women who reside in the UK today are embracing this project as are the Australian ancestors. These "girls" belong to all of us. It was often just a twist of fate that we ended up where we did! Wouldn't it be thrilling for you all to send off a bonnet and be able to see it return "home" before coming back to Australia to settle! I think the women would have liked the thought of that ............ just one more look at their homeland! Kerri ----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of CandROverson Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta Hi Kerri Do you know when the exhibition is coming to the UK and where it is being exhibited in the UK? I sympathise with your feelings about Australia's children growing up knowing more about the history of other countries than they do their own. I am a Scot and when I left school I knew far more about English history than I did about Scottish history. I didn't really think about it at the time, but years later I get really angry that I left school knowing so little about my own country's past. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Ferguson " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition,Parramatta Artists Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta >I Listers, > > I had the incredible experience of viewing Christina Henri's exhibition a > Parramatta yesterday and have to say that I as completely overwhelmed. > There is something so awesome about seeing that sea of little bonnets > which > represents our forebears that I was unashamedly moved to tears. As you > move > along the rows reading the names and the ships and see the out-pouring of > love which is obvious in each bonnet, you cannot help but be deeply moved. > There were some familiar names there too- ones that I can remember coming > up > on this site over the years. There is a sense of being able to "touch" > history for a brief moment. If one has been researching for while there > is > a strange feeling of recognition too, when you see a name that has > appeared > on the pages of books and even on the internet and you find yourself > thinking think "hey, I know you!" > > It was beautifully presented and the video presentation which is running > at > the same time (quietly away so as not to disturb your viewing of the > bonnets) is very informative and very moving - especially the section > about > the children who have come to see the exhibition and the way in which they > become involved. I may sound like an "romantic idealist" but you can > "feel" > the love sewn into every stitch. > > I understand that one group of women even sewed bonnets for the women who > did not make it out here but who perished on the voyage. This is a real > joint effort by those of us left who understand the need to preserve our > heritage. > > I also had the very great pleasure of meeting Christina and chatting. I > was > disgusted and appalled when she told me that she has met a total brick > wall > when trying to get the media to take an interest in this exhibition. It > seems she had tried every outlet and TV show possible with no response. > > Is it any wonder our feeling of National pride is almost non-existent and > that our children are growing up knowing more about the history of other > countries than they do their own. This made me furious! > > I commend this exhibition to you - it is a time to quietly reflect on > those > who are responsible for some us even being here!!!! Chistina's quiet > countenance and her tenacity in putting this together deserves more > recognition. > > I understand that she has plans to take it to other regions so everyone > can > view it - I believe it may get to the Hunter region next year and she is > trying to get support from people who can help in this endeavour. The > exhibition will travel overseas and back to the UK, before it is > permanently > housed here in Australia. > > I was left with deep gratitude for my convict beginnings and all those > poor > wretched women who made that trip under those unimaginable conditions. > But > I was also left with a deep anger at the authorities and the media who > seem > more intent on seeing that we understand everyone else's culture whilst > preventing us from appreciating our own. > > Come on Listers, get down there to Parramatta if you can (there's lots of > history around the area to enjoy and make a day of it) and PLEASE support > this exhibition and support what this fine lady is doing something almost > single-handedly to make us aware of our history. > > Well worth the effort! > > By the way, the bonnets are EASY, EASY, EASY to make and there is a > pattern > available. If you haven't a convict ancestor ask for a name and a story > and > you will be provided with one. Even a poor sewer could knock one out in a > couple of hours. Some of the women don't have any descendants so it might > be > great to do something for one of those girls! I believe there are already > over 11,000 bonnets!!!!!!! But Christina was saying that she was not yet > half-way. > > Come on Lister - please let's show pride in our heritage. > > Kerri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen seckold > Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 6:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Bonnets and Boats exhibition, Parramatta Artists > Studios Gallery, 45 Hunter Street, Parramatta > > Hello karen, > Did anyone answer you? If not this might help. Christina Henri from > Tasmania, is trying to get a convict Bonnet made for each of the women > convicts sent out. she has lists. You could contact her and see if one > has been made for your convicts. > > Karen s > Hoppers Crossing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ted With the Tasmanian Conduct records, they are arranged alphabetically by year of arrival. As you will know the year of arrival, then it is quite easy to flick through to the particular year and then go through page by page. You can test this out by going to the first page and checking the first year of arrival - then go to the last page and again check the arrival year of those convicts. Let us say 1823 is the first and 1850 is the last and your convict arrived about 1837, you would go to abut half way of the pages available and check those. That sounds a bit convoluted - but it's late :) You really have to know the name (both Christian and Surname) of your convict before commencing any research. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ted & Magi Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-CON] Convict FOWLERS The State Library of Queensland has produced a Convict transportation register on line which gave me 77 convicts named FOWLER transported between 1787 and 1867. The Tasmanian archives also give FOWLERS sent to Tasmania between 1823 and 1850. The Tasmanian site has references and links to further information about the convicts including a digitalised volume on conduct records. Very interesting but 188 unindexed pages takes a fairly long time to download and browse page by page. I am sure some lister has followed these links before and may care to share their experience on how to find the most information on line. I'm happy enough to visit a library or family history centre but I'm a fair way away from a large centre and I'd like to know what to look for before I arrive. TIA Ted

The State Library of Queensland has produced a Convict transportation register on line which gave me 77 convicts named FOWLER transported between 1787 and 1867. The Tasmanian archives also give FOWLERS sent to Tasmania between 1823 and 1850. The Tasmanian site has references and links to further information about the convicts including a digitalised volume on conduct records. Very interesting but 188 unindexed pages takes a fairly long time to download and browse page by page. I am sure some lister has followed these links before and may care to share their experience on how to find the most information on line. I'm happy enough to visit a library or family history centre but I'm a fair way away from a large centre and I'd like to know what to look for before I arrive. TIA Ted

Peter we all make mistakes sometimes in our life, thank you for your apologise. Glenys in West Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Strauss" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] POSTED IN ERROR > Kerri & Listers, > > The item was posted in error, possibly an unintended keystroke. > > It was not intended for the list and I apologise sincerely for any who I > have offended. > > Peter Strauss > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 1:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 (Ralph & Kay Herron) > 2. Chain Migration by Convicts (Clare Stapleton) > 3. Re: FW: Dave & Jim (kerri) > 4. LAKE (christene) > 5. Re: LAKE (Lesley Uebel) > 6. Re: LAKE (Leanne) > 7. Re: LAKE (Leanne) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:56:31 +1000 > From: "Ralph & Kay Herron" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Julie, In my tree I have 3 convict brothers married 3 convict women, a > sister of the brothers also married a convict and I am looking at the > possibility of the father also marrying a convict. > Fantastic stuff. > > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:00 PM > Subject: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Query - # of convicts sent from same family (determinable?) >> (Julie Gough) >> 2. Re: Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) (kaye vernon) >> 3. Re: Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) (Betty Keep) >> 4. FW: Dave & Jim (Peter Strauss) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:33:03 +1000 (EST) >> From: Julie Gough <[email protected]> >> Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> hi listers >> >> I have been wondering about something and would value anyone >> ideas/findings >> about this. >> >> Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 >> generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people >> here - >> wouldn't it be not only possible but likely that if one member of a >> family was >> sent across that in the same generation - or adjacent generations. at >> least >> another family member was also sent to Australia? >> >> I have only focussed on my direct convict ancestors, but know a little >> about an >> uncle of one ancestor also sent to Australia. >> >> To find the data on all families affected with multiple members sent >> to >> Australia is very interesting. It seems more holistic to think about the >> implications for the whole famiy left behind, and about the members >> heading >> to Australia knowing even which others may follow, or which others are >> already >> here to possibly seek. This is very different to the one-by-one single >> person >> search approach in ancestral research. >> >> Julie >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:04:14 +1000 >> From: "kaye vernon" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I found a family of brothers who came out as convicts one went to >> Tasmania, >> two to Victoria and one to NSW. Only in recent times,have the families >> connected. To add to this,I found that they had left a sister behind in >> England and she has descendents who have contacted me with a whole new >> branch of the family tree. >> I have not followed this line with any other branch of my family but you >> have prompted me to consider the possibility. >> Kaye Vernon >> www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.hrm >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julie Gough >> Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 7:33 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) >> >> hi listers >> >> I have been wondering about something and would value anyone >> ideas/findings >> about this. >> >> Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 >> generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people >> here - >> wouldn't it be >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:44:15 +1000 >> From: "Betty Keep" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Julie >> I have often thought of all that you say in your email. I have a g g >> grandfather whose father and uncle were already in Aus - in the Sydney >> area >> when he was convicted. My gg grandfather also had a wife and some family >> prior to his conviction, but they never came to Aus and my convict >> remarried >> after he was free. (This is not our mutual rellies that I am talking >> about!). >> Cheers >> Betty >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Julie Gough" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:33 AM >> Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family >> (determinable?) >> >> >>> hi listers >>> >>> I have been wondering about something and would value anyone >>> ideas/findings >>> about this. >>> >>> Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 >>> generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people >>> here - >>> wouldn't it be not only possible but likely that if one member of a >>> family was >>> sent across that in the same generation - or adjacent generations. at >>> least >>> another family member was also sent to Australia? >>> >>> I have only focussed on my direct convict ancestors, but know a little >>> about an >>> uncle of one ancestor also sent to Australia. >>> >>> To find the data on all families affected with multiple members sent >>> to >>> Australia is very interesting. It seems more holistic to think about the >>> implications for the whole famiy left behind, and about the members >>> heading >>> to Australia knowing even which others may follow, or which others are >>> already >>> here to possibly seek. This is very different to the one-by-one single >>> person >>> search approach in ancestral research. >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 >> 4:08 PM >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:27:44 +1000 >> From: "Peter Strauss" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim >> To: "List AUS Convicts" <[email protected]>, "WILMA" >> <[email protected]>, "'Paula T Rieger'" <[email protected]>, >> "Marty Rieger" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> >> >> From: colin strauss [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 3:28 PM >> To: Peter William Strauss; Greta Vargas; Les Law; Phil Evans; Colliss >> Parrett >> Subject: Fw: Dave & Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> : Fw: Dave & Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dave & Jim >> >> >> >> >> Dave and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft >> mechanics in Melbourne . >> >> One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with >> nothing to do. >> >> Dave said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!' >> Jim says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a >> buzz. >> >> You wanna try it?' >> So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane booze and get >> completely smashed. >> The next morning Dave wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. >> >> In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. >> >> Nothing! >> >> Then the phone rings. It's Jim . Jim says, 'Hey, how do you feel this >> morning?' >> >> Dave says, 'I feel great, how about you?' >> Jim says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?' >> Dave says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We >> ought to do this more often.' >> >> ' Yeah, well there's just one thing.' >> 'What's that?' >> >> 'Have you farted yet?' >> >> 'No.' >> >> 'Well, DON'T, ' cause I'm in Perth .' >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> _____ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 >> 4:08 PM >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the AUS-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> To post a message to the AUS-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body > >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 >> ******************************************** >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:37:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Clare Stapleton <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-CON] Chain Migration by Convicts > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Chain migration, where a "pioneer" goes ahead to check things out first, > is > a very common migration pattern. Geographers see this in both assisted and > unassisted movements. I have one man who was followed a year later by his > brother and parents.Many of our modern families move the same way. In > fact > the Australian migration schemes depend on those patterns to ease the > culture shock of new arrivals. In fact the presence of family or fellow > country communities dramaticly enhances success of the individual. Hats > off > to our convict ancestors who figured out how to make the system work for > them! And while we are at it if you have Irish assisted immigrants besure > to look at all the paperwork as they were lots of kids who officials noted > were 'small' for their age-- i.e. their age was put up to make them > qualify > for assisted passage!Regards > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:09:45 +1000 > From: "kerri" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Is this an error? I find it totally immature and offensive and am > wondering > how it got through. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 4:28 PM > To: List AUS Convicts; WILMA; 'Paula T Rieger'; Marty Rieger > Subject: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim > > > > > > From: colin strauss [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 3:28 PM > To: Peter William Strauss; Greta Vargas; Les Law; Phil Evans; Colliss > Parrett > Subject: Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > : Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > > > > > Dave & Jim > > > > > Dave and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft > mechanics in Melbourne . > > One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with > nothing to do. > > Dave said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!' > Jim says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a > buzz. > > You wanna try it?' > So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane booze and get > completely smashed. > The next morning Dave wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. > > In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. > > Nothing! > > Then the phone rings. It's Jim . Jim says, 'Hey, how do you feel this > morning?' > > Dave says, 'I feel great, how about you?' > Jim says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?' > Dave says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We > ought to do this more often.' > > ' Yeah, well there's just one thing.' > 'What's that?' > > 'Have you farted yet?' > > 'No.' > > 'Well, DON'T, ' cause I'm in Perth .' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 > 4:08 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:52:18 +1000 > From: "christene" <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am trying to find entry to NSW for > Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area > 1825... > Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts. > They had 3 children > Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times > but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830 > I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck > can anyone help? > Christene > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10760e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:00:22 +1000 > From: "Lesley Uebel" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Christene > > A few months ago you wrote to this list - and I answered giving further > information and corrections > > > ""Listers > My convict is Miles LAKE of the Earl Spencer 1813. > Miles was transported from Nottingham > A year later he was granted a ticket of leave to marry Jane Arthur > in 1824 at Windsor. Janes father served in the 102nd Foot Regiment > His sentence was life and he was aged 38 > They married in St Andrews Windsor > Christene"" > > > Miles could not have received a Certificate of Freedom because he had been > sentenced to Life. > > regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:[email protected] > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of christene > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE > > > I am trying to find entry to NSW for > Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area > 1825... > Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts. > They had 3 children > Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times > but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830 > I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck > can anyone help? > Christene > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:07:55 +1000 > From: "Leanne" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > looks like he was taken into the orphan school in 1833 along with brother > James and another child Thomas, who I assume is a brother as registration > was not compulsory then he may have been not registered and possibly too > young to be baptised yet, no sign of Sarah. > Index to Orphan Schools > www.records.nsw.gov.au > Leanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christene" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:52 PM > Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:10:33 +1000 > From: "Leanne" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > from Colonial Secretary Correspondence > > www.records.nsw.gov.au > > I would contact Michelle Nichols at Hawkesbury City Library for help. > > > > > > LAKE, Miles. Per "Earl Spencer", 1813 > > 1823 Jan > Servant of Harriet Robinson; testimony as to his character for a > ticket > > of leave (Reel 6026; 4/1715 pp.239-40) > > 1823 Jan 29 > On list of persons who obtained tickets of leave during the last week > (Reel 6039; 4/424 p.131) > > 1824 Nov 2 > Re permission to marry at Windsor (Reel 6013; 4/3512 p.692) > > > > Leanne > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the AUS-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 > ******************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It would be nice if everyone complaining about it would not keep repeating it. Peter has apologised and had sent it in error. Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected]

I agree with Kerri, I find it offensive and don't think things like it should be allowed on the list. Marie --- Original Message ----- From: "kerri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim > Is this an error? I find it totally immature and offensive and am > wondering > how it got through. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 4:28 PM > To: List AUS Convicts; WILMA; 'Paula T Rieger'; Marty Rieger > Subject: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim > > > > > > From: colin strauss [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 3:28 PM > To: Peter William Strauss; Greta Vargas; Les Law; Phil Evans; Colliss > Parrett > Subject: Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > : Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > > > > > Dave & Jim > > > > > Dave and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft > mechanics in Melbourne . > > One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with > nothing to do. > > Dave said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!' > Jim says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a > buzz. > > You wanna try it?' > So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane booze and get > completely smashed. > The next morning Dave wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. > > In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. > > Nothing! > > Then the phone rings. It's Jim . Jim says, 'Hey, how do you feel this > morning?' > > Dave says, 'I feel great, how about you?' > Jim says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?' > Dave says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We > ought to do this more often.' > > ' Yeah, well there's just one thing.' > 'What's that?' > > 'Have you farted yet?' > > 'No.' > > 'Well, DON'T, ' cause I'm in Perth .' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 > 4:08 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080922-0, 09/22/2008 > Tested on: 9/24/2008 2:39:57 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > >

Kerri & Listers, The item was posted in error, possibly an unintended keystroke. It was not intended for the list and I apologise sincerely for any who I have offended. Peter Strauss -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 1:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 Today's Topics: 1. Re: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 (Ralph & Kay Herron) 2. Chain Migration by Convicts (Clare Stapleton) 3. Re: FW: Dave & Jim (kerri) 4. LAKE (christene) 5. Re: LAKE (Lesley Uebel) 6. Re: LAKE (Leanne) 7. Re: LAKE (Leanne) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:56:31 +1000 From: "Ralph & Kay Herron" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Julie, In my tree I have 3 convict brothers married 3 convict women, a sister of the brothers also married a convict and I am looking at the possibility of the father also marrying a convict. Fantastic stuff. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Query - # of convicts sent from same family (determinable?) > (Julie Gough) > 2. Re: Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) (kaye vernon) > 3. Re: Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) (Betty Keep) > 4. FW: Dave & Jim (Peter Strauss) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:33:03 +1000 (EST) > From: Julie Gough <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > hi listers > > I have been wondering about something and would value anyone > ideas/findings > about this. > > Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 > generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people here - > wouldn't it be not only possible but likely that if one member of a > family was > sent across that in the same generation - or adjacent generations. at > least > another family member was also sent to Australia? > > I have only focussed on my direct convict ancestors, but know a little > about an > uncle of one ancestor also sent to Australia. > > To find the data on all families affected with multiple members sent to > Australia is very interesting. It seems more holistic to think about the > implications for the whole famiy left behind, and about the members > heading > to Australia knowing even which others may follow, or which others are > already > here to possibly seek. This is very different to the one-by-one single > person > search approach in ancestral research. > > Julie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:04:14 +1000 > From: "kaye vernon" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found a family of brothers who came out as convicts one went to > Tasmania, > two to Victoria and one to NSW. Only in recent times,have the families > connected. To add to this,I found that they had left a sister behind in > England and she has descendents who have contacted me with a whole new > branch of the family tree. > I have not followed this line with any other branch of my family but you > have prompted me to consider the possibility. > Kaye Vernon > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.hrm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julie Gough > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 7:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) > > hi listers > > I have been wondering about something and would value anyone > ideas/findings > about this. > > Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 > generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people here - > wouldn't it be > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:44:15 +1000 > From: "Betty Keep" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Julie > I have often thought of all that you say in your email. I have a g g > grandfather whose father and uncle were already in Aus - in the Sydney > area > when he was convicted. My gg grandfather also had a wife and some family > prior to his conviction, but they never came to Aus and my convict > remarried > after he was free. (This is not our mutual rellies that I am talking > about!). > Cheers > Betty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie Gough" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:33 AM > Subject: [AUS-CON] Query - # of convicts sent from same family > (determinable?) > > >> hi listers >> >> I have been wondering about something and would value anyone >> ideas/findings >> about this. >> >> Given that convicts were sent across to various parts of Australia for 4 >> generations and given the drastic circumstances that brought people >> here - >> wouldn't it be not only possible but likely that if one member of a >> family was >> sent across that in the same generation - or adjacent generations. at >> least >> another family member was also sent to Australia? >> >> I have only focussed on my direct convict ancestors, but know a little >> about an >> uncle of one ancestor also sent to Australia. >> >> To find the data on all families affected with multiple members sent >> to >> Australia is very interesting. It seems more holistic to think about the >> implications for the whole famiy left behind, and about the members >> heading >> to Australia knowing even which others may follow, or which others are >> already >> here to possibly seek. This is very different to the one-by-one single >> person >> search approach in ancestral research. >> >> Julie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 > 4:08 PM > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:27:44 +1000 > From: "Peter Strauss" <[email protected]> > Subject: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim > To: "List AUS Convicts" <[email protected]>, "WILMA" > <[email protected]>, "'Paula T Rieger'" <[email protected]>, > "Marty Rieger" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > From: colin strauss [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 3:28 PM > To: Peter William Strauss; Greta Vargas; Les Law; Phil Evans; Colliss > Parrett > Subject: Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > : Fw: Dave & Jim > > > > > > > > > > Dave & Jim > > > > > Dave and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft > mechanics in Melbourne . > > One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with > nothing to do. > > Dave said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!' > Jim says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a > buzz. > > You wanna try it?' > So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane booze and get > completely smashed. > The next morning Dave wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. > > In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. > > Nothing! > > Then the phone rings. It's Jim . Jim says, 'Hey, how do you feel this > morning?' > > Dave says, 'I feel great, how about you?' > Jim says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?' > Dave says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We > ought to do this more often.' > > ' Yeah, well there's just one thing.' > 'What's that?' > > 'Have you farted yet?' > > 'No.' > > 'Well, DON'T, ' cause I'm in Perth .' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > _____ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 > 4:08 PM > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the AUS-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 283 > ******************************************** > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Clare Stapleton <conjola21[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-CON] Chain Migration by Convicts To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chain migration, where a "pioneer" goes ahead to check things out first, is a very common migration pattern. Geographers see this in both assisted and unassisted movements. I have one man who was followed a year later by his brother and parents.Many of our modern families move the same way. In fact the Australian migration schemes depend on those patterns to ease the culture shock of new arrivals. In fact the presence of family or fellow country communities dramaticly enhances success of the individual. Hats off to our convict ancestors who figured out how to make the system work for them! And while we are at it if you have Irish assisted immigrants besure to look at all the paperwork as they were lots of kids who officials noted were 'small' for their age-- i.e. their age was put up to make them qualify for assisted passage!Regards ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:09:45 +1000 From: "kerri" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is this an error? I find it totally immature and offensive and am wondering how it got through. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 4:28 PM To: List AUS Convicts; WILMA; 'Paula T Rieger'; Marty Rieger Subject: [AUS-CON] FW: Dave & Jim From: colin strauss [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 3:28 PM To: Peter William Strauss; Greta Vargas; Les Law; Phil Evans; Colliss Parrett Subject: Fw: Dave & Jim : Fw: Dave & Jim Dave & Jim Dave and Jim were a couple of drinking buddies who worked as Aircraft mechanics in Melbourne . One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in the hangar with nothing to do. Dave said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!' Jim says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel and get a buzz. You wanna try it?' So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane booze and get completely smashed. The next morning Dave wakes up and is surprised at how good he feels. In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects. Nothing! Then the phone rings. It's Jim . Jim says, 'Hey, how do you feel this morning?' Dave says, 'I feel great, how about you?' Jim says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?' Dave says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing. We ought to do this more often.' ' Yeah, well there's just one thing.' 'What's that?' 'Have you farted yet?' 'No.' 'Well, DON'T, ' cause I'm in Perth .' __________ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/22/2008 4:08 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:52:18 +1000 From: "christene" <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I am trying to find entry to NSW for Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area 1825... Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts. They had 3 children Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830 I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck can anyone help? Christene E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10760e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:00:22 +1000 From: "Lesley Uebel" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Christene A few months ago you wrote to this list - and I answered giving further information and corrections ""Listers My convict is Miles LAKE of the Earl Spencer 1813. Miles was transported from Nottingham A year later he was granted a ticket of leave to marry Jane Arthur in 1824 at Windsor. Janes father served in the 102nd Foot Regiment His sentence was life and he was aged 38 They married in St Andrews Windsor Christene"" Miles could not have received a Certificate of Freedom because he had been sentenced to Life. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of christene Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE I am trying to find entry to NSW for Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area 1825... Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts. They had 3 children Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830 I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck can anyone help? Christene ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:07:55 +1000 From: "Leanne" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original looks like he was taken into the orphan school in 1833 along with brother James and another child Thomas, who I assume is a brother as registration was not compulsory then he may have been not registered and possibly too young to be baptised yet, no sign of Sarah. Index to Orphan Schools www.records.nsw.gov.au Leanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "christene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:10:33 +1000 From: "Leanne" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] LAKE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original from Colonial Secretary Correspondence www.records.nsw.gov.au I would contact Michelle Nichols at Hawkesbury City Library for help. LAKE, Miles. Per "Earl Spencer", 1813 1823 Jan Servant of Harriet Robinson; testimony as to his character for a ticket of leave (Reel 6026; 4/1715 pp.239-40) 1823 Jan 29 On list of persons who obtained tickets of leave during the last week (Reel 6039; 4/424 p.131) 1824 Nov 2 Re permission to marry at Windsor (Reel 6013; 4/3512 p.692) Leanne ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-CONVICTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AUS-CONVICTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-CONVICTS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 284 ********************************************

Hi Christene I have some information on this couple, if you would like to contact me direct, including details of his crime. You will also find out a lot about them in the Convict musters in 1822 and 1825. Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "christene" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE > > I am trying to find entry to NSW for > Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area > 1825... > Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts. > They had 3 children > Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times > but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830 > I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck > can anyone help? > Christene > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10760e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

christene, sorry to be prying but are you a hartley? my great grandmother was Ruby Jane Hartley b 1891 to james hartley &barbara wighton Louise Potterton 2876 Pacific Hwy Tyndale NSw 2460> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:52:18 +1000> Subject: [AUS-CON] LAKE> > I am trying to find entry to NSW for> Miles Lake and Jane Arthur who married in the Windsor area> 1825...> Miles died 1832 aged 57 I have no other details of either of their pasts.> They had 3 children> Sarah I think I have found..James I have to modern times> but there is no sign of a rd boy Miles bn 1830> I have checked tickets of freedom etc no luck> can anyone help?> Christene> > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322)> Database version: 5.10760e> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT