Hi Margaret, wow... that was a quick response.. (then I remembered its daytime there right??) Yes it would be a good idea if you look into where your relative was sent to... (most likely New South Wales) but not certainly... other areas had direct convict imports. (tasmania is one major one) JG STEELE... is quoted in almost every new - release book on convicts in Moreton Bay as a source... as it is the most correct.... of all the books on the Moreton Bay District.... if you were to post the name of your relative on the list... more than likely someone will be able to find where they ended up... (if they ended up here at all ).. I forgot to mention this before that not all convicts sentenced to Transportation... were transported.. some were kept in prison hulks... whilst their trial records say they were transported... they may not have been... So its a little bit of a tricky thing at times to find out what exactly happened.. though most cases you can usually find them somewhere here in Australia.... anyway like I said before.. If I can be of any help.. if you find out your relative was subsequently sent to Moreton Bay... let me know.. and I'll see what I can find out for you. Regards Sue.

Hi Margaret, First of all welcome to the club!! there are many Australians that are connected to Convict ancestry... depending on if you have an area of Australia in particular that you want to know about.. or if its a general thing you are interested in. But to give you an idea... the first convict settlement was the first fleet in Sydney 1788... therefore Sydney (New South Wales) is the major resource for convicts in Australia... and several of the other states were parts of New South Wales for the early part of their history. Now me personally I live in Queensland whose capital city is Brisbane... but in early days it was called Moreton Bay. Convicts sent to Moreton Bay were generally re-offenders Meaning that they have committed another crime after their arrival in Australia... there were many other places such as Norfolk Island etc etc that also served as secondary penal establishments. However until 1859... Queensland was part of New South Wales... therefore the majority of records and information pertaining to the convicts of Moreton Bay is held in New South Wales... through the wonderful art of later file sharing we now have access to many of those records... but not all... the aforementioned and widely accepted resource for Moreton Bay (Brisbane) Convict heritage is J.G. STEELE's "BRISBANE TOWN IN CONVICT DAYS- 1824-1842" this superb collection of all things Convict in the area is just remarkably put together. Since the publishing of this book however we have even more access to other records... and more information is coming to be over time.. which is usually the case with Technology.. But this book will tell you basically the In's and outs of the Convicts at Moreton Bay.. widely accepted as one of the most Brutal of Penal Establishments though I personally feel that Norfolk Island takes the cake in this arena. Now as for where your relative ended up.. and what happened to them.. most of which we now have access to records on the Internet... especially for New South Wales, Tasmania, and certainly some Major ones that I am a part of in Queensland.... you however being in England.. have access to records that we don't.. and many of us are quite envious of the ability you have to look at the original trials.. (usually for the most petty of things) and certainly the British history pertaining to the reasons the convicts had to be sent here in the first place.... I am sure that there will be other people recommending books to you as well.. and I am certainly no expert on the matter... I do however have access to a lot of the Queensland Records in their original form.. and some filmed copies from New South Wales... so should that be where your research takes you .... its only a query away. My biggest Recommendation is to stay a member of this list... I have learned more here than I have from any book.... (remember what is written in a book is not always correct.. and often merely someones personal opinion) while this list like many others have their occasional hiccups.. like the one we have had here in the past week or two... with a couple of people having a few jabs here and there.. like any community if you just switch off the information that you don't wish to receive and receive that which you do... the benefits far outweigh the negativity. Good Luck with your research.... and if I can be of any help please don't hesitate to ask! Regards Sue.

Connie, Geoff, & Christine. Just letting you know. It's over with. Yesterday has gone. Please do not stir it up again. Thank you Max & Peggy Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia

Kim, Only convict numbers I have are that NSW Convict transportation ended in 1840 with ~111,500, (It continued in WA) Victoria and Qld were still part of NSW at this time. Not sure of the source AND you have to note Leslie Uebel's qualifiers. Also some population statistics to put them into perspective when more data show up. John Dodds ************************ 1788:Population:1024 white; Gov.Arthur Phillip establishes Sydney 1789:Gov. Phillip surveys Deewhy and area up to Hawksbury River. 21Nov.James Ruse's Rose Hill Farm, under the supervision of Edward DODD, a servant to Gov. Phillip, harvests the first wheat crop in Australia. 1790: 1791:Pop:2887 1792: 1793: 1794: 1795:Pop:3388 1796: 1797: 1798: 1799: 1800:Pop:4958; 1801:Pop:5515; Newcastle established, 1802: 1803: 1804:Pop:7468; Hobart estb. 1805:Pop:7830 1806: 1807: 1808: 1809: 1810:Pop:11773 1811: 1812: 1813: 1814: 1815:Pop:14844 Bathurst estb. 1816: 1817: 1818: 1819: 1920:Pop:29407; Singleton estb. 1821: 1822: 1823:Pop:39792; Droving road to Newcastle opens. Hunter River valley opens to cultivation, Wyong and Canberra settled 1824:Pop:42426; Name 'Australia' adopted, Maitland estb. 1825:Pop:45528; 1826:Pop:46328; 24May-Sydney to Singleton road construction begins. Albany WA estb. 1827:Muswellbrook estb. 1828:Pop:55006; Nov.First official Census of NSW, 36,598; (5 of my ancestors known to be in NSW but NOT be in the census.) 1829:Fremantle and Perth WA estb. 1830:Pop:72280; Billie Blue runs first ferry service to North shore, Sydney 1831:NSW begins assisted immigration, Sydney Herald begins as weekly, daily in 1840 & Sydney Morning Herald in 1842, maintains unofficial BDM notices 1832: 1833: 1834: 1835:Pop:113,545; John Batman founds Melbourne, 111 Mounted Police in NSW 1836:Snowfall reported in Sydney, Adelaide estb. 1837: 1838:David Jones & Co. open their first store, Geelong estb. 1839:Pop:176,473;. 1840:Pop:202,195; Convict transportation to NSW ends with 111,500. 1841: 1842: 1843:First election of representative govt. 1844: 1845:Pop:303,134; Sale, Vic. estb. 1846: 1847: 1848: 1849:Pop:418,961; 1850:Pop:484,724; 1851:1Jul:Victoria separated from NSW; Gold rushes begin: Bathurst in May, Ballarat in Sep, Bendigo in Nov. 1852:3Aug:First steamship arr. Sydney from England after 80 days 1853: 1854: 1855:Pop:793,260 1856: Official BDM registry established 1857: 1858: 1859:Queensland separated from NSW; Thomas Austin liberates rabbits in Vic, become pests in three years. 1860:Pop:1,145,585 1861: 1862: 1863: 1864: 1865:Pop:1,390,043 1866: 1867: 1868: 1869: 1870:Pop:1,647,756 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Convict numbers > Hi Kim, > > 2259 Males and 144 Females were sent to Moreton Bay in the Period > 1824-1842 > (as per JG STEELE's "Brisbane Town in Convict Days 1824-1842) > > Of these Approximately 220 died (anywhere up to 230) during that time > frame. > > > Regards > > Sue. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Why don't you just give up & shut up so others can get on with doing what the list was raised for, that is asking Questions that provide information to assist. You certainly have not done that in any of your posts Move on Geoff -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 6:54 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Janet, I did NOT write anonymously and have never done so! I resent bitterly the accusation that I would do so. And I have never spoken anything I would not speak in person. I have no compunction about speaking anything I have to say to anyone face-to-face. Whatever would you possess to make such an accusation. I am left wondering if people really read these messages properly. An apology was posted after an objection was lodged on the occasion you mention - you are correct ! As it was on this occasion!!!!! Interesting are your comments about not being able to gain information any other way Janet. Some years ago, I was berated on THIS VERY SITE for getting my information from a computer when others were doing the "real" research!!!!!!!!! As for Allan, I feel he can speak for himself and is, I can only hope, more gracious than you give him credit for. In my experience, when someone apologises for having said something that may have been misconstrued, then it's gracious for everyone to move on. As, incidentally was LESLEY'S instruction on the occasion you remember of a few weeks ago. I am becoming increasingly interested as to why there is a different standard of rules applied to each apology? I will not repeat my apology - it has been given and that is the end of it. If you wish to carry on with it then do so. But I would remind you of Lesley's advice on that occasion - to just get over it and move on! Kerri -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hammon Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster How rude! I for one, smart I may not be, have had nothing but good & helpful advice from all and especially Leslie Ubel on this mailing list. I apologise on behalf of all to Allen. Allen, new to the list, asked a very good question. Goodness knows what Allen now thinks of this list. I viewed the "accidental email" a couple of weeks ago and reolised almost immediately that the sender had made a silly mistake and if my old memory serves me well enough, an apology was posted. Enough said. BUT to post rude insensitive unnecessary comments (not accidently) is a total waste of my precious time and I'm sure waste of email reading time for all who submit and gain information on this list. After a busy day I sat at my computer to have to read at least 10! I haven't got time for this nonsense! It should not be forgotten that many who ask advice from the list are in one way or another unable to obtain it any other way. Whether they be financially, physically or geographically unable. And we all benefit from the responding emails to the questions. I have only once or twice been able to assist someone on the list, received an instant thanks and felt soooo good to have helped. If this makes me a "show off" Bring it on! I've gone on a bit but unfortunately I'm angry and I think I should get angry about much more important things going on in the world. Perhaps the lesson here is this - BEFORE YOU WRITE ANONIMOUSLY THINK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IT IN PERSON. Janet Hammon -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerri Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:31 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Onya Allan, They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! Can't wait to see the answer. Kes -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster Hello, I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of the reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry Patrick has 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. 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Many thanks to Sue (Olsen), all the information and advice has been taken onboard! I realise now I will have to be a lot more precise as to which area in Australia I begin my research, so I shall enquire about the book you mentioned, and get back to studying my notes! Many thanks for such a quick and helpful repsonse. Margaret

I have only just embarked on the convict research for my tree, and would appreciate advice from anyone who can recommend a reference title or two that I can use to read up on the subject. I'm in England but I can order books from overseas, and our library system can often obtain titles for us to borrow. I am most interested in what actually happened to the convicts after their arrival in Australia. I bow to the experience of other list members in helping me make suitable choices, as everything I've learned so far has come from you, it will be much appreciated. Many thanks. Margaret (in Warwickshire)

Perhaps this is a good moment to let newcomers to this list know that the E-mails sent to the lists do not always arrive to our PC's in the order in which they were sent. Kim, our list administrator, has already mentioned that he can be late to receive them and for those of us living away from Australia the time difference, of course, makes an even greater difference to their arrival and when we deal with them. In addition, I have learned from the experience of being on several lists that the rootsweb mechanism for passing the E-mails (way beyond my technical understanding) does have some very curious ways of forwarding on replies before we have received the question! And we individually all have our personal time scales about when we read and reply to our E-mails. So please, have patience, and wait for this storm to blow itself out. Connie Williams -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Reeves Sent: 18 October 2008 11:51 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster

Many thanks back to the drawing board I can't find a link Cheers Rhonda

Hello all, I do not understand this, I have been given my answer and thankyou to those who assisted me. Best wishes Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalee" <rosaleeshaw@ozemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster > Please... give this one a miss !!!! > > > Enough already. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Cooke" <kacooke@smartchat.net.au> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster > > >> Well I hope someone does answer, I would like to know as well. >> >> Annette >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerri Ferguson" <kerriferguson@dodo.com.au> >> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster >> >> >>> >>> Onya Allan, >>> >>> They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show >>> off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! >>> >>> Can't wait to see the answer. >>> >>> Kes >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells >>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM >>> To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of >>> the >>> reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry >>> Patrick has >>> 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by CyberOne E-Mail Spam and > Virus Protection Service, and is believed to > be clean from viruses. CyberOne Pty Ltd accepts no > responsibility for the content of messages > in transit through our servers. > -- > Suspected unsolicited commercial bulk messages > (SPAM) have been marked with {Spam?} tag in > the subject line enabling you to filter them out > by using your mail software's filtering capabilities. > >

Please... give this one a miss !!!! Enough already. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Cooke" <kacooke@smartchat.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster > Well I hope someone does answer, I would like to know as well. > > Annette > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerri Ferguson" <kerriferguson@dodo.com.au> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster > > >> >> Onya Allan, >> >> They'll love you - as they will all have someone to whomethey can show >> off! See if Ms.Uebel answers!!!!! >> >> Can't wait to see the answer. >> >> Kes >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Wells >> Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 12:29 PM >> To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUS-CON] Reference numbers on Ships Muster >> >> Hello, >> >> I am new to this list. Can anyone advise me as to the significance of >> the >> reference numbers on Ships Muster records. eg re the Asia 1831 Mulry >> Patrick has >> 1st Column 2030/24 and second column beneath his name 40/1939. >> >> Many thanks >> >> Allan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sue and Robyn. Have been able to save a copy of John Thomas CLARKE records. Thank you very much for your help. Happiness to all Max & Peggy Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching family names Bell Gloustershire, UK & Australia Biddiscombe, Somerset UK & Australia Bloxham Oxfordshire UK & Australia Clarke UK, Tasmania, Australia Earle Tasmania Australia Fellows Buckinghamshire UK & Australia Flixon UK Maher Doon County Ireland Moore Ireland ? UK, Australia Nettleton UK, & Australia Rowlstone Derbyshire UK & Australia Shell, Australia Stoneham UK & Australia Swan & Shaw, Scotland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Replacing lost record of un-marked graves in Nyah West cemetery. If you can help. Please contact me. Want a photo taken at Nyah West cemetery. Please ask. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Love and happiness ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Peggy, I also found him in the Tasmanian Records there is quite a bit about him.. and his trial etc. you can take a look at it yourself on the link below. http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 Basically all that you have to do is click on the link and it will take you to the search page and you can type in his name.. ( luckily for you there is only one John Thomas CLARKE) and then click on the link there (database Number) and it will take you to the record you can click on the links in that page also it will take you to the original record which has been digitised and is available online (well two out of the three have ) the conduct record is the most interesting it contains most information.. the Indent does tell you a bit about him also. If you have any trouble please let me know and I will email you a copy of the images. best of Luck Sue.

Hi Cynthia, Yes, I have two Lincolnshire convicts in my family tree that I know of- Edward Babington and his son Richard. Thanks, I would like to know if there is any mention of them in the publication "Convicts of Lincolnshire." Kind regards, Susan, in NSW. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Cyn Jolly <cynlen@tesco.net> wrote: > Hi Lynne and list > > A William Wells is listed in the publication "Convicts of Lincolnshire" as > follows Name William Wells No age given Date 30/3/1818 Place of trial > Boston Borough Sessions Time 7 years Year of leaving 1820 for NSW Ship > Dromedary. The publication lists 6 others of the surname Wells. If anyone > is interested in them let me know > > Regards > > Cynthia > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mrshoggy@bigpond.net.au > Sent: 15 October 2008 22:45 > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] WELLS > > Hi Allan and list, > > After reading the recent postings, just a quick line to ask (taking a > liberty sorry) if you have info on WELLS surname in Tassie at all, and if I > can help with anything on these guys?. My hubby's mum was a WELLS, from > Sorell. Original pioneer in her family -John WELLS - was a convict on the > Dromedary and his family settled in Sorell, Tas. Also, supposedly, on > same > ship/boat was William WELLS. He too, for a brief time was in Sorell. I > don't think these guys were related. 'Our' John was born in Birmingham > 1804 and William, I think, in Lincolnshire. Have a few details also of a > William WELLS, again unrelated, in the Channel area if this may help you - > or anyone. John WELLS Snr married Mary NEWPORT, dau of convict John > NEWPORT > and William WELLS married Elizabeth ENO, convict, also from Lincolnshire. > > > Happy huntin'. Regards always > Lynne in Tas. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this > incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 > 07:29 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you very much Robyn. That's him. That's a very interesting web site. Will use it again. As I have another convict to hunt down. But first, I'll get all the info, I can on John Thomas Clarke. Southampton, I have not looked there. Thank you very much. Max & Peggy Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching family names Bell Gloustershire, UK & Australia Biddiscombe, Somerset UK & Australia Bloxham Oxfordshire UK & Australia Clarke UK, Tasmania, Australia Earle Tasmania Australia Fellows Buckinghamshire UK & Australia Flixon UK Maher Doon County Ireland Moore Ireland ? UK, Australia Nettleton UK, & Australia Rowlstone Derbyshire UK & Australia Shell, Australia Stoneham UK & Australia Swan & Shaw, Scotland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Replacing lost record of un-marked graves in Nyah West cemetery. If you can help. Please contact me. Want a photo taken at Nyah West cemetery. Please ask. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Love and happiness ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peggy Is this him? John Thomas Clarke ship: Isabella dparted 15 January 1842 Convicted Southhampton Winchester qtr sessions for a term of 14 years arrived Van Diemans Land source: http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts good luck Robyn in Wodonga >" have found him in Tasmania, as a convict. Not been able to find the ship >he > was transported on. Nor when he was transported."

Hoping I can get help with John Thomas CLARKE, my Great x4 Grandfather. I have found him in Tasmania, as a convict. Not been able to find the ship he was transported on. Nor when he was transported. Or what crime, he was transported for. john Thomas married Salina AUSTIN. in Hobart 1844. They must have moved to Melbourne. As there only surviving child, Charlotte married William FELLOWS. All this information I have . It John Thomas, I am hunting down. Any help for a small brake threw. Please. ( Thanks Kim, it was starting to get way too much) Max & Peggy Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching family names Bell Gloustershire, UK & Australia Biddiscombe, Somerset UK & Australia Bloxham Oxfordshire UK & Australia Clarke UK, Tasmania, Australia Earle Tasmania Australia Fellows Buckinghamshire UK & Australia Flixon UK Maher Doon County Ireland Moore Ireland ? UK, Australia Nettleton UK, & Australia Rowlstone Derbyshire UK & Australia Shell, Australia Stoneham UK & Australia Swan & Shaw, Scotland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Replacing lost record of un-marked graves in Nyah West cemetery. If you can help. Please contact me. Want a photo taken at Nyah West cemetery. Please ask. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Love and happiness ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Susan, Both are listed. The publication is of convicts from 1789 - 1840 sent to Australia with an appendix of a small amount of convicts sent to Bermuda between 1822 - 1839. Edward Babington age 49 date of trial 8/3/1823 Lincoln Assizes sentence for life Revesby off. Left 1824 for VDL on the Phoenix. Richard Babington no age given date of trial 27/10/1829 LQS (Lindsey Quarter Sessions) sentence 7 years left 1830 to NSW on the Nithsdale Hope this is of help. Regards Cynthia in sunny (at the moment) Lincolnshire -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Lamberton Sent: 16 October 2008 12:22 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] WELLS Hi Cynthia, Yes, I have two Lincolnshire convicts in my family tree that I know of- Edward Babington and his son Richard. Thanks, I would like to know if there is any mention of them in the publication "Convicts of Lincolnshire." Kind regards, Susan, in NSW. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Cyn Jolly <cynlen@tesco.net> wrote: > Hi Lynne and list > > A William Wells is listed in the publication "Convicts of Lincolnshire" as > follows Name William Wells No age given Date 30/3/1818 Place of trial > Boston Borough Sessions Time 7 years Year of leaving 1820 for NSW > Ship Dromedary. The publication lists 6 others of the surname Wells. > If anyone is interested in them let me know > > Regards > > Cynthia > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > mrshoggy@bigpond.net.au > Sent: 15 October 2008 22:45 > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] WELLS > > Hi Allan and list, > > After reading the recent postings, just a quick line to ask (taking a > liberty sorry) if you have info on WELLS surname in Tassie at all, and if I > can help with anything on these guys?. My hubby's mum was a WELLS, from > Sorell. Original pioneer in her family -John WELLS - was a convict on the > Dromedary and his family settled in Sorell, Tas. Also, supposedly, on > same > ship/boat was William WELLS. He too, for a brief time was in Sorell. I > don't think these guys were related. 'Our' John was born in Birmingham > 1804 and William, I think, in Lincolnshire. Have a few details also > of a William WELLS, again unrelated, in the Channel area if this may > help you - or anyone. John WELLS Snr married Mary NEWPORT, dau of > convict John NEWPORT and William WELLS married Elizabeth ENO, convict, > also from Lincolnshire. > > > Happy huntin'. Regards always > Lynne in Tas. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found > in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: > 15/10/2008 > 07:29 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 20:02

Rhonda, Yes okay... they were the two I was thinking of then... I thought that perhaps their death certificates might shed a little bit of light on the subject... but then again perhaps not... is it possible that they had adult children that came out here afterwards?? maybe your Jeremiah is a descendant of one of those... one thought is to see if you can find out any info on your Jeremiah... as you will probably already know there were several. Maybe his death certificate.... or notices in the newspaper... maybe someone knew enough info for death notices for the older two also... maybe try a will?? best of luck.. Sue. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, <brownlowr@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > The two convicts were late bloomers he was about 53,she 48. Both deaths are > registered for Jeremiah and Eliza, but I can make the leap forward to the > next Jeiah in my file. > Cheers Rhonda > > > > > Sue Olsen <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Rhonda, any idea how old they would have been when they arrived here > > in > > Australia.. there are a few options on the BDM's that could be them.. > > but it > > would depend on the age on arrival. > > > > Sue. > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Rhonda Brownlow > > <brownlowr@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > > > > > I am trying to sort out the family of Jeremiah Donovan arrived > > "Hadlow" > > > 1818 > > > & Eliza Donovan she arrived on the "Brothers" 1823, I have been > > tracing the > > > Donovan family and wonder if these two convicts are connected to > > Jeremiah > > > Donovan in Waverly Cemetery. Perhaps one of the listers might be able > > to > > > help me please. > > > > > > Cheers Rhonda > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >