Marg. I suspect a family history centre or larger library would have these services...as I said a 9 hr travel does not make this worth while I have found reference to a ticket of leave datd 1845 He was sent here 1838 which tells me that it was a 7yr sentence ..... What I am really after is Michael dowling entering oz I have not found him as an immigrant so just started a search to see if he were a convict even though his marriage and death certs do not say this nor mention time in colony My Michael Dowling died Ashfield 1907 aged 87 which gives him a birth of 1820cc which would have have him transported 18 and a ticket of leave at 25 the transportation reads Ireland I have my Michael from Ireland when he married in Moruya in 1851 his death cert also reads Ireland no county mentioned but parents Kevin and Jane. All I need is an age for the convict to be a bit surer..and less reluctant to buy certs with a probability of them not being him I have checked bounty immigration as well hoping to find siblings of my chap entering oz but nothing there and unfortunately nsw records,com do not mention parents So I will just keep hunting Maisy E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11121 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

----- Original Message ----- From: "chrissy" <hartleyc@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] DOWLING > Thanks > again > I was hoping to find an online source > 9 hrs is too long to travel for what really is a long shot > thanks very much Hi Maisy 9 hours from where to where ? Pretty difficulty to tell you where to find something when you dont say where you are Some convict indexes only are on line but certainly not the indents . This is a large index of fiche to be found in many libraries Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Thanks again I was hoping to find an online source 9 hrs is too long to travel for what really is a long shot thanks very much Maisy E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11121 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Maisy You will find a lot of information on the Indent for the Elphinstone (3). The Indents are on microfilm and available at many large libraries regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of chrissy Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:53 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] DOWLING Lesley it reads so I stand corrected but still question unanswered where will I find an age sentence and crime to be sure that he is mine Name Dowling Michael Date 1/July 1838 Place IRE/ COR Event Transported Source Irish Gift maisy

Lesley it reads so I stand corrected but still question unanswered where will I find an age sentence and crime to be sure that he is mine Name Dowling Michael Date 1/July 1838 Place IRE/ COR Event Transported Source Irish Gift maisy E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11121 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Maizy I think you meant that he arrived on the Elphinstone (3) to Port Jackson in 1838. There was no such transport called the "Irish Gift" - that term applies to the records gifted to Australia from the National Archives of Ireland regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of chrissy Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:54 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] DOWLING I ahve found a record of a Michael Dowling entering NSW as a convict 1838 onboard the Irish Gift from Cork. Can anyone tell me where to find an age sentence and crime maizy

I ahve found a record of a Michael Dowling entering NSW as a convict 1838 onboard the Irish Gift from Cork. Can anyone tell me where to find an age sentence and crime maizy E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11110 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Listers , Does any one out there know anything about the convict Andrew English b1793 Waterford Ireland. Aged 56yrs on arrival. marriedto Ellen Griffen who had died before he was sentenced in 1839. Andrew died 2 Feb 1844.Bathurst Also John English b1816 Waterford Ireland. Arrived 20. 12. 1839 Died Bathurst 1886. any info would be appreciated. Lorraine Sydney.

Chrissy, You might try your search from the Irish end. Go to http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/transportation/search01.html I also did a Google search for Irish Convicts Transported and there seemed to be several other possible online sources. I found one of my ancestors this way. John Dodds (San Francisco- sunny and unusually warm in the middle of early winter!!?) ----- Original Message ----- , and search for your convict. From: "chrissy" <hartleyc@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] DOWLING > Thanks > again > I was hoping to find an online source > 9 hrs is too long to travel for what really is a long shot > thanks very much > Maisy > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11121 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I've been chasing this reprobate around the NSW indexes for some time now and have a reasonable record for him. I have birth 1806, marriage, conviction and transportation. His Tkt of Leave, name of partner and birth and death of children, subsequent convictions upto 1879 at age of 73 for stealing horse and saddle for which he got 12 months hard labour and his picture taken. His age was shown as 65 but his date of baptism was 1806. AKA John Bunion and John Parsons, and there the trail stops. His time in Australia seems to have been spent entirely in the Mudgee - Bathurst area. I can't find any record of his death or burial. Would there be a record of his release if he didn't die in prison? I'd be grateful for any information from somebody with more skill and knowledge than I have (I'll even settle for luck). Thanks in advance Ted

Hi Leigh It may be worth checking the Archives Office of Tasmania web site at: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Leigh Neighbour Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:32 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] iformation about John NEIGHBOUR Hi I am trying to find out more about my family the sername is Neighbour. I beleive that the following cam to Aus as conicts. John Neighbour arived 31st April 1833. Johu was transported from Buckinghamshire *James Neighbour 13th Februray 1835. James was transported from Middlesex William Neighbour 18th January 1843 William was transported from Oxford *William Neighbour 11th August 1834 William was transported from Middlesex I beleive that both James and William were brothers. Can any one help. Thanking you. Leigh Neighbour

Hi I am trying to find out more about my family the sername is Neighbour. I beleive that the following cam to Aus as conicts. John Neighbour arived 31st April 1833. Johu was transported from Buckinghamshire *James Neighbour 13th Februray 1835. James was transported from Middlesex William Neighbour 18th January 1843 William was transported from Oxford *William Neighbour 11th August 1834 William was transported from Middlesex I beleive that both James and William were brothers. Can any one help. Thanking you. Leigh Neighbour

Good morning Matt, Here is some information, which may help you with your research, as you are so far away I felt you would need a lot of assistance. The website below has the family history of Michael Houlaghan and contact names of descendants: - http://www.monaropioneers.com/wholahan-m.htm (The Wholohan name has been spelt in a few different ways :- Hoolaghan, Hoolahan and Wholahan, Woloham, Wholoham and Wholohem.) Also, below information I had put together before I found the site above. Michael Houlahan - Aged 40 - Tried Limerick - Atlas (11) 1802 - Sentence Life. Ann Rowley - Aged 18, arrived 1812 on the Emu. Place Warwick - Assize 03/03/1812 - Sentence 7 years. Conditional Pardon: - HOULAHAN Michael WOOLAGAN, Michael Atlas 1802 - CP 26 Aug 1816 [4/4430] 774 WOOLAGAN Michael HOULAHAN, Michael Atlas 1802 - CP 26 Aug 1816 [4/4430] 774 Below: - Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825:- These documents are held at the Mitchell Librlary in Sydney. HOULAGHAN, Michael. Of Sydney 1818 Sep 10 On list of persons to receive grants of land in 1818 (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p.50) HOULAGHAN, Michael 1814, 1815 Convicted of murder; appears as Hallighan (Reel 6070; 4/1265 pp.150-2) 1816 Jun 29 Granted a free pardon (Reel 6038; SZ759 p.216) HALLIGAN, Michael 1818 Jul William London in the care of (Reel 6047; 4/1740 p.255) HOULAGHAN, Michael. Of Sydney 1818 Sep 10 On list of persons to receive grants of land in 1818 (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p.50 HOULAGHAN, Michael 1814, 1815 Convicted of murder; appears as Hallighan (Reel 6070; 4/1265 pp.150-2) 1816 Jun 29 Granted a free pardon (Reel 6038; SZ759 p.216) HALLIGAN, Michael 1818 Jul William London in the care of (Reel 6047; 4/1740 p.255) Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825 Website: - http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm Genral Muster List of NSW: - 1823-24-25: - Rowley, Ann - Free by Servitude - Broxbomebury 1814 - Sentence 7 years (note above Emu ???) Wife of Woolagan - Campbelltown. Children of Ann Rowley - Roulby, no Christian names - Born Colony 10, 9, 6, 3. Muster Book: - 1823-24-25 - Michael Woollaghan AP Ship - Atlas 1802 - Life - Landholder - Campbelltown:- Children born Colony, Edward 12, Thomas 10, Bridget 5, Michael 7, John 2 - children of Michael Wollaghan of Campbelltown. As per the 1828 Census:- Michael Woolaghan. Aged 60 Absulute Pardon - Atlas 1814 ???? Life - Catholic - Settler - Airds - Appx 3: Acres: 50, Cleared: 40; Culd: 30; Horses: ; Cattle: 4: Sheep: ; Others: Ann Woolaghan. Aged 36 Free by Servitude. Broxbornebury 1814 ???? 7 years. Catholic - Airds. Woolaghan children: - Born Colony - Edward 14, Thomas 12, Michael 10, Bridet 6, john 4, Mary 2 Woolaghan. Richard Ivoyr - Government Servant. Ship: - Tyne 1819 - Sentence Life. Catholic - Labourer. Employed on the Woolaghan property (Richard died Dec 1830) Births, Deaths and marriages, NSW BDM Website:- http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births Marriage: - V182018 128/1820 WOOLAHAM, MICHAEL to ROWLEY ANN at LD LD - Roman Catholic Church - St Mary's Sydney. Children's births: - V1821102 125/1821 HOOLAGHAN EDWARD MICHAEL ANN V1821103 125/1821 HOOLAGHAN THOMAS MICHAEL ANN V1821192 125/1821 HOOLIHAE JOHN MICHAEL ANN V1822264 127/1822 HOOLAHAN BRIDGET MICHAEL ANN V1822288 128/1822 HOOLAHAHAN BRIDGET MICHAEL ANN V1826957 125/1826 HOOLAHAN MARY A MICHAEL ANN V1826805 127/1826 HOOLAHAN MARY A MICHAEL ANN V1827815 128/1827 HOOLAHAN MARY A MICHAEL ANN V18291341 125/1829 HOOLAGHAN ELIZABETH MICHAEL ANNE V18291208 127/1829 HOOLAHAN ELIZABETH MICHAEL ANN V18291227 128/1829 HOOLAHAN ELIZABETH MICHAEL ANN Death of Michael: - V1836535 127/1836 HOOLOHAN, MICHAEL V1836467 128/1836 HOOLAHAN, MICHAEL Remarriage of Ann Hoolohan?Woolahan/m V1847921 95/1847 MORAN, BERNARD to WOOLEHAN, ANNE LE LE - Roman Catholic Church - St Johns, Campbelltown NSW Death of Ann:- 5539/1875 MORAN ANN ROWLEY DIED CAMPBELLTOWN Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Hall" <cispt2@gmail.com> To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:58 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] Michael WOOLAGHAN or HOULAGHAN > (Sent this to another list but it didn't post so trying here) > > Trying to track down the arrival/origins of Michael WOOLAGHAN/HOULAGHAN who, > along with Alexander SUTTER/SUITER, was erroneously sentenced to death for > murdering Rowland EDWARDS in 1814. There is a reference in the trial to > SUTTER arriving as ships crew so i don't think i'll have any luck with him. > > After sentencing, the correct culprits were identified (partly through a > confession on the gallows by Donovan), a pardon was sought and given in > 1816.

Forwarded. All replies to List or Mike, please. Kim List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com> To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:17 AM Subject: [WORDSCAN] [AUS-CON] GLEAVES a possible convict. > > Hi list, > I have never had course to go down this road but I wonder if some > of you with greater knowledge regarding convicts can help to either prove > or > disprove the following. > > Sarah GLEAVE, and the surname is all I have to go on, hoping it is unusual > enough to find, stated that she is 34 and a widow as told to the officers > of > the Board Of Guardians for Bakewell Union. She is to be found listed under > Taddington,Derbyshire parish but was actually living in Ecclesall Bierlow, > nr. Sheffield,Yks. She claimed to have two children by her late husband. > Further enquiry by the Relieving Officer uncovers the fact, supposedly, > that > her husband had been transported for seven years but his time will soon be > up. Her children, either the two above, or another two are mentioned thus > " > has had two bastard children since her husband was sent off". > The date is Feb 1839, the earlier information came from 1838. So I imagine > transportation would be around 1832. > Is it possible to to find Mr GLEAVE and confirm this woman's story. I am > also assuming he was sent to Australia and nowhere else. > > mike

Hi Mike there are a couple of GLEAVE's on the Tasmanian Website.... no sign of any in New South Wales.. of the few records that are online....(which is always a good place to start looking) though there are some very good sources in amongst this List.. so I am sure that you will find someone will find who you are looking for... have you thought of trying for a marriage?? to see what his name might have been?? http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 Hope one of these is your Chap... Regards Sue.

Hi Liz, the following is a William Bates in the NSW Pardons index So its Surname, Name, Aliases, Ship, Year, Pardon NUMBER, Type of Pardon, and the Date Granted. This William BATES, did not have any aliases.. hence the - Ship was John. BATES William - John 1827 45/014 CP 1 Feb 1845 He may not be yours...

Hi list, I have never had course to go down this road but I wonder if some of you with greater knowledge regarding convicts can help to either prove or disprove the following. Sarah GLEAVE, and the surname is all I have to go on, hoping it is unusual enough to find, stated that she is 34 and a widow as told to the officers of the Board Of Guardians for Bakewell Union. She is to be found listed under Taddington,Derbyshire parish but was actually living in Ecclesall Bierlow, nr. Sheffield,Yks. She claimed to have two children by her late husband. Further enquiry by the Relieving Officer uncovers the fact, supposedly, that her husband had been transported for seven years but his time will soon be up. Her children, either the two above, or another two are mentioned thus " has had two bastard children since her husband was sent off". The date is Feb 1839, the earlier information came from 1838. So I imagine transportation would be around 1832. Is it possible to to find Mr GLEAVE and confirm this woman's story. I am also assuming he was sent to Australia and nowhere else. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Robyn, Thank you for those newspaper links you sent to the list. I found land bought by one of my relatives. John Brunt in Castlemaine. thank you. I am still trying to find out how he got into the country! karen s Melbourne

Harvie I found inforamtion on my convict pardon etc by searching the Tasmanian papers availble at http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home also try tasmaina info at http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 and also http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~austashs/convicts/con_main.htm good luck!!! Robyn in Wodonga

Dear Matthew and list, You can find information about Michael Wholohan (variously spelt) in Elizabeth Hook Journey to a New Life: The Story of the ships Emu in 1812 and Broxbornebury in 1814, Including Crew, Female Convicts and Free Passengers on Board Elizabeth Hook, Minto, NSW, 2000 p.104 An Irish convict tried in Limerick and sentenced to transportation for life, he arrived in NSW on the Atlas II in 1802. He married Ann Rowley (Emu 1812 & and Broxbornebury 1814) in 1820. He died in 1836 and is buried at Campbelltown. Ann remarried in 1847 and died in 1875. Michael Wholohan was my great-great-great-great-grandfather. With best wishes Dianne Snowden Richmond, Tasmania