Hi Maddy That's correct. I just decided to check my copy of the Hawkesbury Pioneer Register and a couple of people have provided information about this family. Apparently Sarah Townsend married three times. George Spicer in 1855 Baron Burnett Cohen in 1876 Thomas Jenkins in 1885. This book also includes another daughter to William and Rebecca - Louisa who was born in 1847 - 14 child all up. Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Maddy Duke Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 Thank you, Lesley and Rosemary for all your extremely useful information. I am researching the family of a friend, Stuart Palmer, who is descended from Sarah, daughter of William Townsend and Rebecca Sunderland. Sarah married George Spicer in 1855. Kind regards Maddy

Carol There is a Jacob Winters on Mariner 1816. Nevertheless, I am going to seek the marriage certificate of Job and Ann Mills to sort this out. Phil -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Wood Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 9:37 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter Hi Phil, What makes you think they were convicts? Robert Winters must have come to the colony with his parents as a young child according to information on death certificate which makes it unlikely that the parents were convicts if they all came together. Is the father's name Jacob or Job Winters. Have a look at http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts which is the Convict Transport Registry database. There are lots of Winter/Winters on it but no Job or Jacob that I can see. It is not 100% complete. Also try to Irish Gift database online for Irish convicts. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/ Also if you do a Google search under County Clare you will find lots of information to search in that area. Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow, I wish I was as lucky looking for records of James Emms of the 39th Regiment of Foot. Was in Dublin c 1819 and came to Australia c 1826. I have perused the files in AJCP and sighted his paylists, but no regimental number and no way of finding when he enlisted, where he enlisted , his spouse and children. Records of the times, including diaries of his commanding officer and a letter written by James himself, refer to wife and children but no names or dates!!!! Still no information on which ship he and his family travelled. Nice to see that someone has some postitive results. regards Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] RECORDS. > Hello Glenys > > This is a link to the online catalogue of the UK National Archives at Kew, > London. At the foot of the page is a reference to the service documents of > Henry Woods from Castle Blayney, Co Monaghan who enlisted in 1827 and was > discharged in 1849. If this is your Henry you can order copies of the > papers from the National Archives. > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/search_results.aspx?&st=a&queryText=%22Henry+Woods%22+&queryType=ALL&dateFrom=1827&dateTo=1840&selectedSubjects=C10001 > > > Regards > > Rhoda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenys Woosnam" <granny.woo@bigpond.com> > To: <bmchapman@primus.com.au>; <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:13 AM > Subject: [AUS-CON] RECORDS. > > >> Hi, just wondering if you could help me please. >> I am trying to find the records for a >> Sergeant Henry Woods. >> Henry enlisted in Armagh, in 21/5/1827. >> He then sailed from England & went to Hobart. He sailed on the ship >> "Runnymede" in 1840. >> I am trying to get his enlistment papers so I can find out what >> information I can. >> Thanking you. >> Glenys in Mandurah. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Maddy >From which child are connected? This couple appear to have had many more children than you think According to the 1828 NSW Census the following 6 are listed William born about 1820 John born about 1822 George born about 1822 Mary Ann born about 1825 Charles born about 1826 James born about 1828 and then the NSW BDMs have the following children (assuming that there was not another couple in the colony with the same names) Thomas born about 1832 Elizabeth born about 1835 Sarah born about 1838 Henry born about 1831 Rebecca born about 1840 Eliza born about 1842 Richard born about 1844 regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Maddy Duke Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:40 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 I am new to the list and am interested in finding out more about William TOWNSEND who was transported from Middlesex in 1818 arriving on the Batavia. He married Rebecca SUNDERLAND in 1820. If anyone has any information about these two individuals or can help point me in the right direction for discovering more about their past history I would be very grateful. I believe they had six children between 1822 and 1844 in NSW: George, Charles, Thomas, Elizabeth, Sarah and Richard. Kind regards Maddy Duke

Hi Lesley, Thanks for this information. I don't have much idea of Australian geography but you mention the Hawkesbury Pioneer Register - would that have a family called Alting in it by any chance? Charles Townsend Spicer (son of George Spicer and Sarah Townsend) married Gertrude Alting and they lived in Parkes. I was interested in the fact that Sarah married Baron Burnett Cohen because Charles and Gertrude called their first son Baron and none of his sons were given the name George. Kind regards Maddy -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: 07 February 2009 10:41 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 Hi Maddy That's correct. I just decided to check my copy of the Hawkesbury Pioneer Register and a couple of people have provided information about this family. Apparently Sarah Townsend married three times. George Spicer in 1855 Baron Burnett Cohen in 1876 Thomas Jenkins in 1885. This book also includes another daughter to William and Rebecca - Louisa who was born in 1847 - 14 child all up. Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Maddy Duke Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 Thank you, Lesley and Rosemary for all your extremely useful information. I am researching the family of a friend, Stuart Palmer, who is descended from Sarah, daughter of William Townsend and Rebecca Sunderland. Sarah married George Spicer in 1855. Kind regards Maddy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robyn Have you seen this? http://members.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/keenan/keenan_reg_history.htm This is an extract from a book published in 1853 about the 39th Regiment of Foot 1818-1832. It says that the whole regiment embarked for NSW from 1825 to 1827, as guards over convicts. It mentions one detachment embarked on the Woodman on 4 November 1825 to VDL and Sydney. You should read also the piece on that site about Michael Keenan, Soldier Settler, 39th Regiment of Foot. It has some interesting things to say about the regulations regarding the movements of wives and children. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Gross" <regross@iprimus.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] RECORDS. > Wow, > > I wish I was as lucky looking for records of James Emms of the 39th > Regiment > of Foot. Was in Dublin c 1819 and came to Australia c 1826. > > I have perused the files in AJCP and sighted his paylists, but no > regimental > number and no way of finding when he enlisted, where he enlisted , his > spouse and children. > > Records of the times, including diaries of his commanding officer and a > letter written by James himself, refer to wife and children but no names > or > dates!!!! Still no information on which ship he and his family travelled. > > Nice to see that someone has some postitive results. > > regards > > Robyn

Thank you, Lesley and Rosemary for all your extremely useful information. I am researching the family of a friend, Stuart Palmer, who is descended from Sarah, daughter of William Townsend and Rebecca Sunderland. Sarah married George Spicer in 1855. Kind regards Maddy -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: 07 February 2009 07:34 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 Hi Maddy >From which child are connected? This couple appear to have had many more children than you think According to the 1828 NSW Census the following 6 are listed William born about 1820 John born about 1822 George born about 1822 Mary Ann born about 1825 Charles born about 1826 James born about 1828 and then the NSW BDMs have the following children (assuming that there was not another couple in the colony with the same names) Thomas born about 1832 Elizabeth born about 1835 Sarah born about 1838 Henry born about 1831 Rebecca born about 1840 Eliza born about 1842 Richard born about 1844 regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Maddy Duke Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:40 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] William Townsend per Batavia 1818 I am new to the list and am interested in finding out more about William TOWNSEND who was transported from Middlesex in 1818 arriving on the Batavia. He married Rebecca SUNDERLAND in 1820. If anyone has any information about these two individuals or can help point me in the right direction for discovering more about their past history I would be very grateful. I believe they had six children between 1822 and 1844 in NSW: George, Charles, Thomas, Elizabeth, Sarah and Richard. Kind regards Maddy Duke ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Glenys This is a link to the online catalogue of the UK National Archives at Kew, London. At the foot of the page is a reference to the service documents of Henry Woods from Castle Blayney, Co Monaghan who enlisted in 1827 and was discharged in 1849. If this is your Henry you can order copies of the papers from the National Archives. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/search_results.aspx?&st=a&queryText=%22Henry+Woods%22+&queryType=ALL&dateFrom=1827&dateTo=1840&selectedSubjects=C10001 Regards Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenys Woosnam" <granny.woo@bigpond.com> To: <bmchapman@primus.com.au>; <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] RECORDS. > Hi, just wondering if you could help me please. > I am trying to find the records for a > Sergeant Henry Woods. > Henry enlisted in Armagh, in 21/5/1827. > He then sailed from England & went to Hobart. He sailed on the ship > "Runnymede" in 1840. > I am trying to get his enlistment papers so I can find out what > information I can. > Thanking you. > Glenys in Mandurah. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am new to the list and am interested in finding out more about William TOWNSEND who was transported from Middlesex in 1818 arriving on the Batavia. He married Rebecca SUNDERLAND in 1820. If anyone has any information about these two individuals or can help point me in the right direction for discovering more about their past history I would be very grateful. I believe they had six children between 1822 and 1844 in NSW: George, Charles, Thomas, Elizabeth, Sarah and Richard. Kind regards Maddy Duke

Hi, just wondering if you could help me please. I am trying to find the records for a Sergeant Henry Woods. Henry enlisted in Armagh, in 21/5/1827. He then sailed from England & went to Hobart. He sailed on the ship "Runnymede" in 1840. I am trying to get his enlistment papers so I can find out what information I can. Thanking you. Glenys in Mandurah.

Hi I was hoping some one may be able to tell me how to go about getting Third Fleet Records of a Christopher DODD tried Surrey assizes 1790 and arrived Australia 1791 sentenced to 14 years possible ship Atlantic What I wish to know is age and native place crime and wether he left a family behind in England any assistance would be most appreciated Rod

I am searching for a Stephen Gatrell (Gathel)that arrived in Fremantle Perth about 1852. I believe that he obtained his TOL and lived in Guildford. If anyone has heard of him please contact me. Brenda -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robyn Gross Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 12:11 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter Phil, We often forget that free settlers arrived in this time as did many soldiers who accomapanied the the convicts. I had asumed one of my subjects b 1819 Dublin arrived 1826 Australia must have been a convict's chil but it turns oout that he may have been a soldiers child of the 39th Regiment of Foot. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-conflicts-periods/other/british_army-in- aust.htm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tobegin.htm could be useful in this area. regards Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Phil West" <sandrawest@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter > Lesley > > I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 > Sep > 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters > (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. > > Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". > Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, > Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. > > As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. > > Where to now? > > Phil West > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was > free. > > regards > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil > West > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner > I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. > > I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, > Ireland. > Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so > Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. > > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phil, We often forget that free settlers arrived in this time as did many soldiers who accomapanied the the convicts. I had asumed one of my subjects b 1819 Dublin arrived 1826 Australia must have been a convict's chil but it turns oout that he may have been a soldiers child of the 39th Regiment of Foot. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-conflicts-periods/other/british_army-in-aust.htm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/tobegin.htm could be useful in this area. regards Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Phil West" <sandrawest@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter > Lesley > > I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 > Sep > 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters > (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. > > Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". > Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, > Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. > > As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. > > Where to now? > > Phil West > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel > Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was > free. > > regards > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil > West > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan > > > Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner > I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. > > I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, > Ireland. > Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so > Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. > > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Phil, What makes you think they were convicts? Robert Winters must have come to the colony with his parents as a young child according to information on death certificate which makes it unlikely that the parents were convicts if they all came together. Is the father's name Jacob or Job Winters. Have a look at http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts which is the Convict Transport Registry database. There are lots of Winter/Winters on it but no Job or Jacob that I can see. It is not 100% complete. Also try to Irish Gift database online for Irish convicts. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/ Also if you do a Google search under County Clare you will find lots of information to search in that area. Carol

Lesley I have finally got Robert Winters' death certificate, 10440. He died 18 Sep 1913 in Newtown, aged 75. Occupation, miner. Father, Job Winters (Occupation, miner), Mother, Ann Mills. Born in Co Clare Ireland and time in colony/state "upwards of 70 years". Spouse Caroline Bates who attested on Ada M Winters' Birth Certificate, Robert was born in 1839 in Melbourne. The dates are consistent. As far as I know, Job and Ann Mills were convicts. Where to now? Phil West -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lesley Uebel Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 3:58 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan That's correct Sandra - Catherine had to apply to marry and Jacob was free. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sandra & Phil West Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:45 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter - Catherine Laffan Does anybody have any information on the marriage of Jacob Winter (Mariner I, 1816) to Catherine Laffan ca 1833. I understand Jacob came from Berkshire and Catherine from Kilkenny, Ireland. Jacob was sentenced to 14 years and would have been free by 1833 so Catherine must have applied to the Governor to marry. Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Margaret and Ken, Thanks so much for your helpful information and guidance. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] SAPSED- SAPSFORD ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:12 PM > Subject: [AUS-CON] SAPSED > > >> G'day, >> I'm seeking any information which may be available about >> Moses SAPSE whom I'm told arrived in Australia aboard "Waterloo 3" >> on 1 Dec 1833 as a convict. > > Hi Jan > > Found a few refs to a Moses SAPSFORD per Waterloo (3) . Are 3 refs to > Ticket of leave passports on State records web site . He married a > Mary KELLY in 1849 Tamworth. They had a dau Eliza in 1849 Tamworth > and seem to disappear from NSW records ? > > Bye > > MargM > Beautiful Wyong Shire > NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Its just me again, go to the following link - http://home.vicnet.au/~dcginc/publications.htm Your convict is spelt Moses SAPSED. There is a wealth of ifo in books and CD Cheers Ken Sinclair > Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: > > G'day, > I'm seeking any information which may be available about Moses > SAPSE whom I'm told arrived in Australia aboard "Waterloo 3" on 1 Dec > 1833 as a convict. > > Many thanks, > Jan > sunny Queensland > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your prompt reply, Ken. I have been researching my family for about 12 years but have only researched one convict previously and he turned out to be unlikely as my ancestor (he came to VDL). I have not done any research on convicts in NSW or the other colonies and have just begun to seek my granddaughter's maternal ancestry. Any advice re possible websites, etc would be gratefully received . I'm au fait with the tools available for general research. Many thanks, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <kensinclair@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] SAPSED > Dear Jan, > Are you a 'first timer' in searching or have you hit a wall with > enquiries? With a name like that he should be reasonable to trace. What > have you tried? > Cheers > Ken > Very hot and sunny VIC > > > >> Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> G'day, >> I'm seeking any information which may be available about Moses >> SAPSE whom I'm told arrived in Australia aboard "Waterloo 3" on 1 Dec >> 1833 as a convict. >> >> Many thanks, >> Jan >> sunny Queensland >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] SAPSED > G'day, > I'm seeking any information which may be available about > Moses SAPSE whom I'm told arrived in Australia aboard "Waterloo 3" > on 1 Dec 1833 as a convict. Hi Jan Found a few refs to a Moses SAPSFORD per Waterloo (3) . Are 3 refs to Ticket of leave passports on State records web site . He married a Mary KELLY in 1849 Tamworth. They had a dau Eliza in 1849 Tamworth and seem to disappear from NSW records ? Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Dear Jan, Are you a 'first timer' in searching or have you hit a wall with enquiries? With a name like that he should be reasonable to trace. What have you tried? Cheers Ken Very hot and sunny VIC > Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: > > G'day, > I'm seeking any information which may be available about Moses > SAPSE whom I'm told arrived in Australia aboard "Waterloo 3" on 1 Dec > 1833 as a convict. > > Many thanks, > Jan > sunny Queensland > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message