Hi Linda, There were actually about 12 men who arrived as convicts with that name. No, I don't know what happened to the James Hogan of the "Hive" although he was recommended for a Conditional Pardon in 1847. The one who arrived on the "John Barry" gave his native place as Lancaster and as he was tried in 1835 and received a 7 year sentence he would have been free by 1842. He was about 16 years of age when he arrived in 1836. Remember being tried in England does not mean that the person was English. There were two James Hogans on the "Backwell" both giving their native place as Ireland although neither had received a CP by 1846. A Passport was just a temporary approval for a convict to move from the district noted on a Ticket of Leave. Have you found his Death Certificate as yet? Does it give an indication of how long he had been in the colony? Does it state from where he originated? Consider that he could have arrived free. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: Linda Combe [mailto:linda_necia@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:27 PM To: Lesley Uebel; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 Hi Lesley, Thanks for that reply. It makes sense. Do you know what eventually happened to the James Hogan who came on the Hive? Do you have anything that rules out the convict, James Hogan, who came on the John Barry in 1836? He was assigned to Mr Montefiore in Bathurst district. He was tried at Lancashire Quarter Sessions. I did not consider him because I suppose I thought my James Hogan must have been Irish because I know for sure that Bridget was Irish. There is another James Hogan who came on the Blackwell, and I have details of his tickets of passport from the State Records Index. They were approved by the bench of majestrates Yass. What is a ticket of Passport used for? Do you know whether it would be any use my going to the Mitchell library and looking up their List of convicts of Bathurst 1845-1855? Thank you again for your help, Linda --- On Wed, 11/2/09, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

--- On Wed, 11/2/09, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: Hi Lesley, Thank you for your reply. I have not got the death certificate because I am not sure when he died. A cousin got lots of transcriptions from Joy Murren and, as far as I remember, the one we think is our James Hogan who died in 1885 (registration 7220) had no more information on it than died Bathurst aged 72 years, which is what it says on the index. We think this is our one because Bridget his wife had been living with and having children with William Dawson since around 1866 in the Gosling Creek area of Orange. They were registered as Hogan and/or Dawson with mother's name only. One transcription even mentioned that she was married but separated and living with another man. They made it legal in 1889 and both died that year. My cousin thought they had waited till James died to marry (but why an extra 4 years?) It is only recently that I have wondered if he was a convict. Before that I had assumed he came free. I will email my cousin and try and get more information. I will as Rosemary suggests get birth certificate for one of the children born after compulsory registration in 1856. Thanks again, Linda From: Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> Subject: RE: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 To: "Linda Combe" <linda_necia@yahoo.com.au>, aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 5:00 PM Hi Linda, There were actually about 12 men who arrived as convicts with that name. No, I don't know what happened to the James Hogan of the "Hive" although he was recommended for a Conditional Pardon in 1847. The one who arrived on the "John Barry" gave his native place as Lancaster and as he was tried in 1835 and received a 7 year sentence he would have been free by 1842. He was about 16 years of age when he arrived in 1836.   Remember being tried in England does not mean that the person was English. There were two James Hogans on the "Backwell" both giving their native place as Ireland although neither had received a CP by 1846. A Passport was just a temporary approval for a convict to move from the district noted on a Ticket of Leave. Have you found his Death Certificate as yet?  Does it give an indication of how long he had been in the colony?  Does it state from where he originated?   Consider that he could have arrived free. regards      Lesley Uebel      mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au      CLAIM A CONVICT      http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html       -----Original Message----- From: Linda Combe [mailto:linda_necia@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:27 PM To: Lesley Uebel; aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 Hi Lesley, Thanks for that reply. It makes sense. Do you know what eventually happened to the James Hogan who came on the Hive? Do you have anything that rules out the convict, James Hogan, who came on the John Barry in 1836? He was assigned to Mr Montefiore in Bathurst district. He was tried at Lancashire Quarter Sessions. I did not consider him because I suppose I thought my James Hogan must have been Irish because I know for sure that Bridget was Irish. There is another James Hogan who came on the Blackwell, and I have details of his tickets of passport from the State Records Index. They were approved by the bench of majestrates Yass. What is a ticket of Passport used for? Do you know whether it would be any use my going to the Mitchell library and looking up their List of convicts of Bathurst 1845-1855? Thank you again for your help, Linda --- On Wed, 11/2/09, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Phil. had you noted the death of a MARY WINTER V1833634 17/1833 no place or other information givee . " Jacob Winter married Mary Hart in Castlereagh in 1830. Also a Jacob Winter > married Catherine Laffin in 1833 in St Marys Sydney." regards Robyn

Hi Linda The problem I can see is that the James Hogan of the "Hive" didn't seek permission to marry Bridget in 1846. By that time he was only in receipt of a Ticket of Leave and whilst that gave him a certain amount of freedom, he was still classed as a convict and required permission to marry. This man did request to marry someone else in 1845, in Bathurst, and it was rejected - quote " Hogan on arrival, stated himself to be married and affords no proof of his wife's death" Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Combe Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:30 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 I am a new subscriber to this list. I have an ancestor about whom I know very little, who may have been a convict. I do not have a concrete reason to suspect he was a convict except the fact that so little information was passed on about him that a big secret seems likely. Can anyone please help with more information about my ancestor or a guide to how to find it? This is what I do know: James Hogan was my gg grandfather. He married Bridget Collins at the old St Michael's Catholic Church in Bathurst on 11/8/1846. He was listed as from Frederick's Valley on the marriage registration. Their first child Ellen Hogan was born on 12/9/1847 and baptised in the parish of Carcoar on 20/2/1848 by M. McGrath. James Hogan was listed as a Labourer and his abode as Wellington. This is conjecture: I found at least 3 James Hogan's arriving on convict transports. The one I favour is the one who arrived on the ill-fated Hive (2) in 1835. (The ship ran ashore south of Jervis Bay on 10/12/1835 and 248 prisoners and crew had to be taken to Sydney on 3 other boats.) >From the General Return of Convicts 1837 page 302 I found: #12654 James Hogan age 21 Ship Hive 1835. His master was Charles Booth of Bathurst district Page 148 in the Original. >From the Peter Mayberry website, I found that this man was tried at Limerick on 10/3/1835 and sentenced to life for the crime of Stealing Sheep. His native place was Tipperary. he was born in 1813 and married with 1 child (another reason for secrecy if his marriage to Bridget was bigamous?) I looked at his ticket of leave 44/816 granted 18/3/1844 and it said "Allowed to remain in district of Carcoar". There is a very faint note on the side of this saying - Altered to Bathurst 21/12/1846. The reason I chose this James Hogan was that the place he was sent to work and subsequent place of Ticket of Leave agree with my known facts re him. I would be grateful for any assistance at all, Thank you Linda

Anette, I really appreciate the help. This fellow is the direct ancestor a someone who helps me out a lot. She is despairing of ever finding him. Sharon > From: iapring@snoopacowra.com > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:04:39 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > Hi Sharon, > > I will go into our family history rooms this week and have a look for you. > > Annette > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Finn > Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 5:48 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > > Annette, > I live in outer suburb of Sydney and work full time so research time has to > be snatched when I can. If it is not too much trouble to look it up for me, > I would appreciate it, otherwise I will get to the Parramatta Heritage > centre in the next couple of weeks. > regards and thanks for your interst > Sharon > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: iapring@snoopacowra.com > > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:32 +1100 > > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > > > Hi Robyn > > > > The reference V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 is an early church > > record and can be viewed at many family history, most large libraries and > > some historical societies in Australia. If you don't have access to this > > let me know and I will look it up for you. > > > > Annette in Cowra NSW > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sharon, I will go into our family history rooms this week and have a look for you. Annette -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Finn Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 5:48 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND Annette, I live in outer suburb of Sydney and work full time so research time has to be snatched when I can. If it is not too much trouble to look it up for me, I would appreciate it, otherwise I will get to the Parramatta Heritage centre in the next couple of weeks. regards and thanks for your interst Sharon ---------------------------------------- > From: iapring@snoopacowra.com > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:32 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > Hi Robyn > > The reference V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 is an early church > record and can be viewed at many family history, most large libraries and > some historical societies in Australia. If you don't have access to this > let me know and I will look it up for you. > > Annette in Cowra NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lesley, Thanks for that reply. It makes sense. Do you know what eventually happened to the James Hogan who came on the Hive? Do you have anything that rules out the convict, James Hogan, who came on the John Barry in 1836? He was assigned to Mr Montefiore in Bathurst district. He was tried at Lancashire Quarter Sessions. I did not consider him because I suppose I thought my James Hogan must have been Irish because I know for sure that Bridget was Irish. There is another James Hogan who came on the Blackwell, and I have details of his tickets of passport from the State Records Index. They were approved by the bench of majestrates Yass. What is a ticket of Passport used for? Do you know whether it would be any use my going to the Mitchell library and looking up their List of convicts of Bathurst 1845-1855? Thank you again for your help, Linda --- On Wed, 11/2/09, Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> wrote: From: Lesley Uebel <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> Subject: RE: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 To: linda_necia@yahoo.com.au, aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 3:05 PM Hi Linda The problem I can see is that the James Hogan of the "Hive" didn't seek permission to marry Bridget in 1846. By that time he was only in receipt of  a Ticket of Leave and whilst that gave him a certain amount of freedom, he was still classed as a convict and required permission to marry. This man did request to marry someone else in 1845, in Bathurst, and it was rejected - quote " Hogan on arrival, stated himself to be married and affords no proof of his wife's death" Regards      Lesley Uebel      mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au      CLAIM A CONVICT      http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html         -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Linda Combe Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:30 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] James Hogan lived Carcoar/Bathurst/Orange ~1840 - ~1885 I am a new subscriber to this list. I have an ancestor about whom I know very little, who may have been a convict. I do not have a concrete reason to suspect he was a convict except the fact that so little information was passed on about him that a big secret seems likely. Can anyone please help with more information about my ancestor or a guide to how to find it? This is what I do know: James Hogan was my gg grandfather. He married Bridget Collins at the old St Michael's Catholic Church in Bathurst on 11/8/1846. He was listed as from Frederick's Valley on the marriage registration. Their first child Ellen Hogan was born on 12/9/1847 and baptised in the parish of Carcoar on 20/2/1848 by M. McGrath. James Hogan was listed as a Labourer and his abode as Wellington. This is conjecture: I found at least 3 James Hogan's arriving on convict transports. The one I favour is the one who arrived on the ill-fated Hive (2) in 1835. (The ship ran ashore south of Jervis Bay on 10/12/1835 and 248 prisoners and crew had to be taken to Sydney on 3 other boats.) >From the General Return of Convicts 1837 page 302 I found: #12654 James Hogan age 21 Ship Hive 1835. His master was Charles Booth of Bathurst district Page 148 in the Original. >From the Peter Mayberry website, I found that this man was tried at Limerick on 10/3/1835 and sentenced to life for the crime of Stealing Sheep. His native place was Tipperary. he was born in 1813 and married with 1 child (another reason for secrecy if his marriage to Bridget was bigamous?) I looked at his ticket of leave 44/816 granted 18/3/1844 and it said "Allowed to remain in district of Carcoar". There is a very faint note on the side of this  saying - Altered to Bathurst 21/12/1846. The reason I chose this James Hogan was that the place he was sent to work and subsequent place of Ticket of Leave agree with my known facts re him. I would be grateful for any assistance at all, Thank you Linda

Carol I also got these and I am trying to work out if Job = Jacob. Just not sure at present. Thanks Phil -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Wood Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2009 9:38 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Jacob Winter Hi Phil, Jacob Winter married Mary Hart in Castlereagh in 1830. Also a Jacob Winter married Catherine Laffin in 1833 in St Marys Sydney. Any help? Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am a new subscriber to this list. I have an ancestor about whom I know very little, who may have been a convict. I do not have a concrete reason to suspect he was a convict except the fact that so little information was passed on about him that a big secret seems likely. Can anyone please help with more information about my ancestor or a guide to how to find it? This is what I do know: James Hogan was my gg grandfather. He married Bridget Collins at the old St Michael's Catholic Church in Bathurst on 11/8/1846. He was listed as from Frederick's Valley on the marriage registration. Their first child Ellen Hogan was born on 12/9/1847 and baptised in the parish of Carcoar on 20/2/1848 by M. McGrath. James Hogan was listed as a Labourer and his abode as Wellington. This is conjecture: I found at least 3 James Hogan's arriving on convict transports. The one I favour is the one who arrived on the ill-fated Hive (2) in 1835. (The ship ran ashore south of Jervis Bay on 10/12/1835 and 248 prisoners and crew had to be taken to Sydney on 3 other boats.) >From the General Return of Convicts 1837 page 302 I found: #12654 James Hogan age 21 Ship Hive 1835. His master was Charles Booth of Bathurst district Page 148 in the Original. >From the Peter Mayberry website, I found that this man was tried at Limerick on 10/3/1835 and sentenced to life for the crime of Stealing Sheep. His native place was Tipperary. he was born in 1813 and married with 1 child (another reason for secrecy if his marriage to Bridget was bigamous?) I looked at his ticket of leave 44/816 granted 18/3/1844 and it said "Allowed to remain in district of Carcoar". There is a very faint note on the side of this  saying - Altered to Bathurst 21/12/1846. The reason I chose this James Hogan was that the place he was sent to work and subsequent place of Ticket of Leave agree with my known facts re him. I would be grateful for any assistance at all, Thank you Linda

Annette, I live in outer suburb of Sydney and work full time so research time has to be snatched when I can. If it is not too much trouble to look it up for me, I would appreciate it, otherwise I will get to the Parramatta Heritage centre in the next couple of weeks. regards and thanks for your interst Sharon ---------------------------------------- > From: iapring@snoopacowra.com > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:32 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > Hi Robyn > > The reference V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 is an early church > record and can be viewed at many family history, most large libraries and > some historical societies in Australia. If you don't have access to this > let me know and I will look it up for you. > > Annette in Cowra NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Robyn Sharon ---------------------------------------- > From: regross@iprimus.com.au > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:20:09 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > Sharon > > No also a NSW index. > > Robyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Finn" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > >> >> >> Robyn, >> >> Thanks for that. I have the 626/1856 reference but I don't have the other >> one. Is that a Victorian reference? >> regards >> Sharon >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------- >>> From: regross@iprimus.com.au >>> To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:11:19 +1100 >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND >>> >>> Have you noted this in NSW: >>> >>> V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 >>> >>> 826/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC THOMAS UNKNOWN SYDNEY >>> >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Robyn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sharon Finn" >>> To: "aus-convicts @rootsweb" >>> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi List >>>> Enquiring re Isaac NOWLAND,born Ireland 1778, who is on Peter Mayberry's >>>> list as arriving in 1813 after an Old Bailey Trial (documented) for >>>> forgery in 1812. >>>> >>>> He may or may not have had a child, Mary baptised (RC) in Sydney in >>>> 1841. >>>> Cannot find a Conditional Pardon, any Ticket of Leave or any Permission >>>> to >>>> Marry - this fellow is a phantom. >>>> >>>> There is a man of the same name having children in Tasmania from 1871 to >>>> a Sarah Rowbotham and common sense says that this is the son, if he is >>>> related at all! >>>> >>>> Then an Isaac NOWLAND died in the Depot in Launceston in 1899 aged 75 >>>> "free by servitude","born Ireland). There is also an Isaac Nolan >>>> passenger, aged 32, from Melbourne to Sydney in 1856 -This surely has to >>>> be the one who married Sarah eg born aby 1824/1825. >>>> >>>> This one is driving a couple of us crazy - we have done extensive >>>> seaches >>>> in the Tasmanian records but no luck. >>>> >>>> Can anyone assist please. >>>> >>>> Sharon >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon No also a NSW index. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Finn" <sharonfinn@hotmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > > Robyn, > > Thanks for that. I have the 626/1856 reference but I don't have the other > one. Is that a Victorian reference? > regards > Sharon > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: regross@iprimus.com.au >> To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:11:19 +1100 >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND >> >> Have you noted this in NSW: >> >> V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 >> >> 826/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC THOMAS UNKNOWN SYDNEY >> >> >> regards >> >> Robyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Finn" >> To: "aus-convicts @rootsweb" >> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND >> >> >>> >>> >>> Hi List >>> Enquiring re Isaac NOWLAND,born Ireland 1778, who is on Peter Mayberry's >>> list as arriving in 1813 after an Old Bailey Trial (documented) for >>> forgery in 1812. >>> >>> He may or may not have had a child, Mary baptised (RC) in Sydney in >>> 1841. >>> Cannot find a Conditional Pardon, any Ticket of Leave or any Permission >>> to >>> Marry - this fellow is a phantom. >>> >>> There is a man of the same name having children in Tasmania from 1871 to >>> a Sarah Rowbotham and common sense says that this is the son, if he is >>> related at all! >>> >>> Then an Isaac NOWLAND died in the Depot in Launceston in 1899 aged 75 >>> "free by servitude","born Ireland). There is also an Isaac Nolan >>> passenger, aged 32, from Melbourne to Sydney in 1856 -This surely has to >>> be the one who married Sarah eg born aby 1824/1825. >>> >>> This one is driving a couple of us crazy - we have done extensive >>> seaches >>> in the Tasmanian records but no luck. >>> >>> Can anyone assist please. >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Robyn The reference V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 is an early church record and can be viewed at many family history, most large libraries and some historical societies in Australia. If you don't have access to this let me know and I will look it up for you. Annette in Cowra NSW

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Robyn, Thanks for that. I have the 626/1856 reference but I don't have the other one. Is that a Victorian reference? regards Sharon ---------------------------------------- > From: regross@iprimus.com.au > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:11:19 +1100 > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > Have you noted this in NSW: > > V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 > > 826/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC THOMAS UNKNOWN SYDNEY > > > regards > > Robyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Finn" > To: "aus-convicts @rootsweb" > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > >> >> >> Hi List >> Enquiring re Isaac NOWLAND,born Ireland 1778, who is on Peter Mayberry's >> list as arriving in 1813 after an Old Bailey Trial (documented) for >> forgery in 1812. >> >> He may or may not have had a child, Mary baptised (RC) in Sydney in 1841. >> Cannot find a Conditional Pardon, any Ticket of Leave or any Permission to >> Marry - this fellow is a phantom. >> >> There is a man of the same name having children in Tasmania from 1871 to >> a Sarah Rowbotham and common sense says that this is the son, if he is >> related at all! >> >> Then an Isaac NOWLAND died in the Depot in Launceston in 1899 aged 75 >> "free by servitude","born Ireland). There is also an Isaac Nolan >> passenger, aged 32, from Melbourne to Sydney in 1856 -This surely has to >> be the one who married Sarah eg born aby 1824/1825. >> >> This one is driving a couple of us crazy - we have done extensive seaches >> in the Tasmanian records but no luck. >> >> Can anyone assist please. >> >> Sharon >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you noted this in NSW: V18562029 143/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC AGE 36 826/1856 NOWLAN ISAAC THOMAS UNKNOWN SYDNEY regards Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Finn" <sharonfinn@hotmail.com> To: "aus-convicts @rootsweb" <aus-convicts-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Isaac NOWLAND > > > Hi List > Enquiring re Isaac NOWLAND,born Ireland 1778, who is on Peter Mayberry's > list as arriving in 1813 after an Old Bailey Trial (documented) for > forgery in 1812. > > He may or may not have had a child, Mary baptised (RC) in Sydney in 1841. > Cannot find a Conditional Pardon, any Ticket of Leave or any Permission to > Marry - this fellow is a phantom. > > There is a man of the same name having children in Tasmania from 1871 to > a Sarah Rowbotham and common sense says that this is the son, if he is > related at all! > > Then an Isaac NOWLAND died in the Depot in Launceston in 1899 aged 75 > "free by servitude","born Ireland). There is also an Isaac Nolan > passenger, aged 32, from Melbourne to Sydney in 1856 -This surely has to > be the one who married Sarah eg born aby 1824/1825. > > This one is driving a couple of us crazy - we have done extensive seaches > in the Tasmanian records but no luck. > > Can anyone assist please. > > Sharon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List Enquiring re Isaac NOWLAND,born Ireland 1778, who is on Peter Mayberry's list as arriving in 1813 after an Old Bailey Trial (documented) for forgery in 1812. He may or may not have had a child, Mary baptised (RC) in Sydney in 1841. Cannot find a Conditional Pardon, any Ticket of Leave or any Permission to Marry - this fellow is a phantom. There is a man of the same name having children in Tasmania from 1871 to a Sarah Rowbotham and common sense says that this is the son, if he is related at all! Then an Isaac NOWLAND died in the Depot in Launceston in 1899 aged 75 "free by servitude","born Ireland). There is also an Isaac Nolan passenger, aged 32, from Melbourne to Sydney in 1856 -This surely has to be the one who married Sarah eg born aby 1824/1825. This one is driving a couple of us crazy - we have done extensive seaches in the Tasmanian records but no luck. Can anyone assist please. Sharon

Hi Phil, Jacob Winter married Mary Hart in Castlereagh in 1830. Also a Jacob Winter married Catherine Laffin in 1833 in St Marys Sydney. Any help? Carol

I am looking to find any relations to Edward Neighbour Edward Neighbour, one of 289 convicts transported on the Thomas Arbuthnot, 06 January 1847 ] Thanking you. Leigh Neighbour

Rhoda, Yes, I have had my name included as a researcher for Thomas Emms on this site and am in correspondence with the webmaster. regards Robyn