Thank you very much, Lesley, Lind and Sue. Your information is really helpful. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD > Hi Jan > > He married Mary Smith > >>From "The Ladies of the Princess Royal" Lesley Uebel > > > Name .. Smith, Mary > Convict Number .. 70 > Freedom or Pardon .. CF 35/998, issued 7 September 1835 > Ticket of Leave .. > Age .. 20 > Education, Reads &/or Writes .. Both > Religion .. Protestant > Marital Status .. Single > Children .. Nil > Native Place .. Manchester > Trade or Calling .. Nursegirl > Offence .. Shoplifting > Tried - Where .. Nottingham > Tried - When .. 16 July 1828 > Sentence .. 7 > Former Convictions .. None > Height .. 4' 10" > Complexion .. Ruddy, freckled > Hair colour .. Brown > Eye colour .. Dark brown > Physical characteristics .. Dark raised mole over right eye, dark mole > right > side of chin > How disposed .. David Ramsay of Dobroyd > Colonial Sentence .. N/A > Female Factory Report .. N/A > Other remarks .. N/A > Marriage application .. > Her stated age .. 20 > Her status when applied .. Bond > Applied to Marry .. Cranfield, John > His stated age .. 30 > Ship .. Neptune I (2) > His sentence .. 7 > His status .. Free > Year applied .. 1829 > Clergy applied through .. Wilkinson, Rev. Frederick > District .. Newcastle > Marriage. NSW BDM Reference .. V1829862 13/1829 > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:39 AM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD > > > Thanks so much, Sue. I have him marrying Mary ? at Corinda, Singleton, > NSW > in 1829. Daughter, Ellen, was born in Maitland in 1830. I have nothing > about > his life or when he died. > As I'm new to convict research, can I ask what SLQ stands for please? Is > the > date for his conviction or arrival in NSW? > > Thanks once again, > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Joanne, Yes H.L.Bennett is correct, do you know what General Muster means, I think he was working for H.L.Bennett in the Monaro district[Delegate area} Lorraine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > Hi Linda > > He is on the General Muster 1837, his master is H L Bennett (I think - > name > hard to read) > > Cheers > Joanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Combe" <linda_necia@yahoo.com.au> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > > >> Hi, I checked Peter Mayberry's site Irish Convicts to NSW on >> http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi >> and he definitely is there. These are the details given: >> Martin >> Brennan >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan He married Mary Smith >From "The Ladies of the Princess Royal" Lesley Uebel Name .. Smith, Mary Convict Number .. 70 Freedom or Pardon .. CF 35/998, issued 7 September 1835 Ticket of Leave .. Age .. 20 Education, Reads &/or Writes .. Both Religion .. Protestant Marital Status .. Single Children .. Nil Native Place .. Manchester Trade or Calling .. Nursegirl Offence .. Shoplifting Tried - Where .. Nottingham Tried - When .. 16 July 1828 Sentence .. 7 Former Convictions .. None Height .. 4' 10" Complexion .. Ruddy, freckled Hair colour .. Brown Eye colour .. Dark brown Physical characteristics .. Dark raised mole over right eye, dark mole right side of chin How disposed .. David Ramsay of Dobroyd Colonial Sentence .. N/A Female Factory Report .. N/A Other remarks .. N/A Marriage application .. Her stated age .. 20 Her status when applied .. Bond Applied to Marry .. Cranfield, John His stated age .. 30 Ship .. Neptune I (2) His sentence .. 7 His status .. Free Year applied .. 1829 Clergy applied through .. Wilkinson, Rev. Frederick District .. Newcastle Marriage. NSW BDM Reference .. V1829862 13/1829 Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Neil & Jan Hearn Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:39 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD Thanks so much, Sue. I have him marrying Mary ? at Corinda, Singleton, NSW in 1829. Daughter, Ellen, was born in Maitland in 1830. I have nothing about his life or when he died. As I'm new to convict research, can I ask what SLQ stands for please? Is the date for his conviction or arrival in NSW? Thanks once again,

Cliff I am currently transcribing prison records for the early nineteenth century and have found that quite a few people were sentenced to death, reprieved to be transported and then given the King's mercy to be sent to the armed forces (possibly a worse option than transportation at that time) or given hard labour instead. It would be worth checking whether the prison records still exist in Hampshire for the period concerned as they should state where he went after the prison. If he was sent to the Hulks he probably was transported unless he died on them (which many did)..a few people were freed from the Hulks but not many. Kind regards Maddy Duke Dorset -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CLIFFORD WHEELER Sent: 17 February 2009 23:34 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] ARE THE TRANSPORTATION RECORDS INFALABLE Hello,   I have recently found the conviction records for my great x4 grandfather who was sentenced to 7 years transportation in 1816 from Hampshire Uk, for stealing bacon from the Lord of The Manor at Brockenhurst. Despite the kind efforts of a researcher in NSW, he cannot be traced. We know that he was back home with his family in 1826. Do you think that the lack of a record is absolute proof that he was not transported to Australia, Thanks Cliff Wheeler  Barton on Sea, Hampshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much, Sue. I have him marrying Mary ? at Corinda, Singleton, NSW in 1829. Daughter, Ellen, was born in Maitland in 1830. I have nothing about his life or when he died. As I'm new to convict research, can I ask what SLQ stands for please? Is the date for his conviction or arrival in NSW? Thanks once again, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD > Jan, As per the SLQ convict Database > > Description: John Cranfield, one of 156 convicts transported on the > Neptune, 18 March 1820 Sentence Details: Convicted at Bedford Town > Quarter > Session for a term of 7 years. Vessel: Neptune > (Ship)<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune > Ship%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> > Date of Departure: 18 March > 1820<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune > Ship%22%20AND%20GKEY%20%221820-03-18%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> > Place of Arrival: New South Wales > > > Certificate of Freedom > > Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order > CRANFIELD John Neptune 1820 077/5979 18 Jan 1827 4/4424 602 > > > I havent been able to find him on the NSW births Deaths or marriages.. Nor > Queensland. so.. not sure what happened to him.. perhaps he went home?? Or > maybe ended up in Victoria. > > Hope this helps > > Sue. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm seeking any possible information about John CRANFIELD whom I'm told arrived in NSW aboard "Neptune" as a convict. Many thanks, Jan

Jan, As per the SLQ convict Database Description: John Cranfield, one of 156 convicts transported on the Neptune, 18 March 1820 Sentence Details: Convicted at Bedford Town Quarter Session for a term of 7 years. Vessel: Neptune (Ship)<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune Ship%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> Date of Departure: 18 March 1820<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune Ship%22%20AND%20GKEY%20%221820-03-18%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> Place of Arrival: New South Wales Certificate of Freedom Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order CRANFIELD John Neptune 1820 077/5979 18 Jan 1827 4/4424 602 I havent been able to find him on the NSW births Deaths or marriages.. Nor Queensland. so.. not sure what happened to him.. perhaps he went home?? Or maybe ended up in Victoria. Hope this helps Sue.

Hello,   I have recently found the conviction records for my great x4 grandfather who was sentenced to 7 years transportation in 1816 from Hampshire Uk, for stealing bacon from the Lord of The Manor at Brockenhurst. Despite the kind efforts of a researcher in NSW, he cannot be traced. We know that he was back home with his family in 1826. Do you think that the lack of a record is absolute proof that he was not transported to Australia, Thanks Cliff Wheeler  Barton on Sea, Hampshire

OKm Sue no problem. Tony. -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Olsen Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 5:35 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert ALLCOCK (aka ALCOCK) Hi Tony, this message was to another Tony.. who had sent a query about a Robert ALCOCK. Not sure how you managed to get hooked up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards Sue. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Linda He is on the General Muster 1837, his master is H L Bennett (I think - name hard to read) Cheers Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Combe" <linda_necia@yahoo.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > Hi, I checked Peter Mayberry's site Irish Convicts to NSW on > http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi > and he definitely is there. These are the details given: > Martin > Brennan > >

Thank you Sue, greatly appreciated . regards Glenys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert ALLCOCK (aka ALCOCK) > Hi Glenys. I am not related to the ALLCOCK family I was looking up an > early > convict index for another subscriber. The only Charles I have that died 26 > march 1851 aged 19 years. He was not married. Sorry I couldnt be of more > help. > > Regards > > Sue. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Linda, Thank you for the information. I believe this is the Martin Brennan I am seeking, he later died in Victoria. Regards Lorraine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Combe" <linda_necia@yahoo.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > Hi, I checked Peter Mayberry's site Irish Convicts to NSW on > http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi > and he definitely is there. These are the details given: > Martin > Brennan > > > Alias: > > Irish Rebel: > > Religion: Catholic > > Age on arrival: 20 > > Marital status: Single > > Calling/trade: Ship labourer > > Born: 1815 Native place: Dublin > > Tried: 1834 Dublin > > Sentence: 7 > Former convictions: > > Ship: Royal Admiral (3) [1835] > > Crime: Stealing copper funnel > You might like to also check State Records http://www.records.nsw.gov.au > where there is a Ticket of Passport for him passed by Queanbeyan bench on > 2/3/1840. If you are able to get to a library that holds the ARK records > you may be able to view the microfilm reel for this and for his ticket of > leave. > Linda > > > > --- On Tue, 17/2/09, lhaines <lhaines@dragnet.com.au> wrote: > > From: lhaines <lhaines@dragnet.com.au> > Subject: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Received: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 9:58 AM > > Hi, I am seeking information on Martin Brennan,convict born Dublin > Ireland, arrived Aust on ship Rpyal Admiral 22-1-1835. > > Lorraine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SLQ stands for State Library of Queensland. There is a marriage for James Cranfield to Mary Smith in 1829 at Church of England Hoxham Newcastle in the NSW BDMs  -Births, Deaths, Marriages - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au You could apply for this certificate or a transcript - even though it is the wrong first name - it is the right year, the right surname and the right general area. Cheers, Linda --- On Wed, 18/2/09, Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 8:39 AM Thanks so much, Sue. I have him marrying Mary  ? at Corinda, Singleton, NSW in 1829. Daughter, Ellen, was born in Maitland in 1830. I have nothing about his life or when he died. As I'm new to convict research, can I ask what SLQ stands for please? Is the date for his conviction  or arrival in NSW? Thanks once again, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD > Jan, As per the SLQ convict Database > >  Description: John Cranfield, one of 156 convicts transported on the > Neptune, 18 March 1820  Sentence Details: Convicted at Bedford Town > Quarter > Session for a term of 7 years.  Vessel: Neptune > (Ship)<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune > Ship%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> > Date of Departure: 18 March > 1820<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune > Ship%22%20AND%20GKEY%20%221820-03-18%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> > Place of Arrival: New South Wales > > > Certificate of Freedom > >  Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order > CRANFIELD John Neptune 1820 077/5979 18 Jan 1827 4/4424 602 > > > I havent been able to find him on the NSW births Deaths or marriages.. Nor > Queensland. so.. not sure what happened to him.. perhaps he went home?? Or > maybe ended up in Victoria. > > Hope this helps > > Sue. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan, I found a death - 9853/1884 CRANFIELD JOHN H ROBERT W ELLEN LITHGOW parents names are Robert W. and Ellen. If you look on familysearch.org you might find a John Cranfield with these parents christened in Bedfordshire. Look around 1800 +/- 5 years. Good luck, Linda --- On Wed, 18/2/09, Sue Olsen <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sue Olsen <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] John CRANFIELD To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 7:22 AM Jan, As per the SLQ convict Database   Description: John Cranfield, one of 156 convicts transported on the Neptune, 18 March 1820  Sentence Details: Convicted at Bedford Town Quarter Session for a term of 7 years.  Vessel: Neptune (Ship)<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune Ship%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> Date of Departure: 18 March 1820<http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/logicrouter/servlet/LogicRouter?OUTPUTXSL=simsearch_enc36ui.xslt&pm_BT=%28SKEY%20%22Neptune Ship%22%20AND%20GKEY%20%221820-03-18%22%29%20&pm_MH=25&pm_USI=0&pm_DDF=Y&ds_svGeneric_DDF=Y&api_2=SIMULFIND&DIRECTIVE=createSrHist&ds_svGeneric_MH=25&pm_OPC=N&pm_CL=45&api_1=COLLECTION_REPOLOGIN> Place of Arrival: New South Wales Certificate of Freedom   Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date Item Reel Remarks Order CRANFIELD John Neptune 1820 077/5979 18 Jan 1827 4/4424 602 I havent been able to find him on the NSW births Deaths or marriages.. Nor Queensland. so.. not sure what happened to him.. perhaps he went home?? Or maybe ended up in Victoria. Hope this helps Sue. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lorraine, Here is the information you are seeking:- Martin Brennan: - Alias: Irish Rebel: Religion: Catholic Age on arrival: 20 Marital status: Single Calling/trade: Ship labourer Born: 1815 Native place: Dublin Tried: 1834 Dublin Sentence: 7 Former convictions: Ship: Royal Admiral (3) [1835] Crime: Stealing copper funnel Description: Remarks: Spouse: Died: Information take from the Irish Gift:- http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi?requestType=Search2&id=1148 A Martin Brennan married a Margaret Cahill in 1843 at the Roman Catholic church in the Maitland district. Though you may already have this information. If you wish to find out more about Martin Brennan and his family before he was arrested you could join the Rootsweb List which covers Dublin and someone on that List maybe able to assist you. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "lhaines" <lhaines@dragnet.com.au> To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > Hi, I am seeking information on Martin Brennan,convict born Dublin Ireland, arrived Aust on ship Rpyal Admiral 22-1-1835. > > Lorraine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am seeking information on Martin Brennan,convict born Dublin Ireland, arrived Aust on ship Rpyal Admiral 22-1-1835. Lorraine

Lorraine, I checked the Qld State Library website, the NSW State Records and Tasmanian Archives websites - there appears to be no Martin Brennan listed. There were 20 Brennans listed on the Qld State Library website but none listed as arriving on the Royal Admiral and none listed as Martin Brennan. Perhaps someone else on the list can suggest another avenue. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "lhaines" <lhaines@dragnet.com.au> To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] Martin Brennan > Hi, I am seeking information on Martin Brennan,convict born Dublin > Ireland, arrived Aust on ship Rpyal Admiral 22-1-1835. > > Lorraine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Lisa, I have had a bit of a look around and your Robert Cason, at least the one christened in Sudbury around 1790 is listed on a Rootsweb World Connect site called  Causton one name study (apparently Cason is a variation of Causton) see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.causton/ The marriage you talk of before his conviction is there - his wife was Mary Ann Grimwood and there was one Daughter Sarah Ann Cason born 1817. Robert's parents married in Diss, Norfolk which is on Northern border of Suffolk with Norfolk on 21/11/1786 (from IGI) Samuel Cason married Ann Warren (Waring on Robert's christening). Maybe you could email the people on the site and tell them that there is a convict in the family. All the best Linda --- On Mon, 16/2/09, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> wrote: From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert CASON b.1792 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Monday, 16 February, 2009, 12:13 PM Hello Lisa Although the town of Sudbury is in Suffolk it is on the Suffolk/Essex border and it may be that Robert Cason was born just south-west of the town, and therefore just within Essex. I am not aware of a Sudbury in Essex, but you may be right. There is, for example, yet another Sudbury in North West London Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Wright" <lisachicken@hotmail.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] Robert CASON b.1792 > > Hi All, I would really appreciate some guidance on this as I am not sure > where to look next.I am looking for place of birth and parents names This > is the information I have to date.- Arrived Earl St Vincent 1820, 7 years, > larceny. Tried at Suffolk Quarter Sessions.- Married to Jane GATTEN > 9/9/1845- Fathered 4 children with Jane GATTEN between 1845 - 1852 in NSW > and SA.- Death Certificate puts place of birth ESSEX. No parents named.- > Age on death certificate makes likely year of birth 1792 (likely as he > died in mid January)- Was definitely married before being sent to > Australia. I got this information from the Christian Israelite Church, as > he converted to this religion whilst i Australia. If I plug the year and > name and Country into the Mormons Family Search site I get 1 hit which > matches all these details. Except it puts his Christening place as > Sudbury, Suffolk. I have done some investigating and found that there is > a Sudbury in Essex also. So that makes me wonder as ! > to how accurate the place of death on the death certificate is. Adding > weight to this is the fact that Robert was also tried in Suffolk Quarter > Sessions. However I don't want to make the assumption that this is his > birth record. I would really like to find names of his English family on > other records. Can anyone suggest where I might look next? > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > Lisa > _________________________________________________________________ > It's simple! Sell your car for just $50 > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue. Afraid no ALLCOCKS in any of my trees but nice to meet up with you. Tony. -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenys Woosnam Sent: Monday, 16 February 2009 4:38 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert ALLCOCK (aka ALCOCK) Hi Sue, Was was wondering if you have a CHARLES ALLCOCK in your family, He was born 1814 Alcester Warwickshire, m Mary Ann Dunn Powell 1844. Thanks Glenys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Olsen" <sueolsensueolsen@gmail.com> To: <tonycocks1@yahoo.com>; <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert ALLCOCK (aka ALCOCK) > Hi Tony, I am unable to help with your query but wonder if there is an > Edward ALCOCK in amongst the family you are looking for. He died in 1854 > in > Brisbane (then Moreton Bay) aged 60 years. > Also > Charles ALCOCK also died aged 19 years on the 26 March 1851. > Both were buried at the North Brisbane Burial Ground ( called now either > Milton/ Paddington Cemetery) It does not appear that they were removed > after > the cemetery closed. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lyn and Lisa Sudbury in North West London is about a couple of miles away from where I live. It is, and was, in Middlesex - not Essex. Middlesex is no longer officially a county; it disappeared with the creation of Greater London in 1965. but its inhabitants still use it as the name of the area where they live. It's almost certain that Robert Cason born 1792 was born in the environs of Sudbury, Suffolk. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Elgood" <stane@ozemail.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Robert CASON b.1792 > Hi Lisa, > > I have a Collins Road Atlas of Britain which shows three Sudbury listings: > > Sudbury on the A134 motorway south of Bury St. Edmonds in Suffolk > > Sudbury just off the A50 in Derbyshire, North west from Burton on Trent > > Sudbury also listed as part of the Greater London area not far from > Wembley > > Essex as I understand it from the map, is presently north east of the > greater London area, but may well have ecompassed a bigger portion of > London > and surrounds back in those times. > > Lyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Wright" <lisachicken@hotmail.com> > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: [AUS-CON] Robert CASON b.1792 > > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >