Hi all Is there anyone who can share any info on the following. William Kelly born 1804 Limerick. Father William Kelly and Mother Catherine Condon,( stated on williams death certificate)William was transported on the Parmelia 2 in 1829.I have a blank spot because apparently he was married twice(stated on second marriage certificate) to Grace Jones 1850 Port Macqurie NSW Australia, but cannot find his first. I also can find nothing about his parents. Any help or direction would be great Regards Debbie

Hi Trish Many thanks for your help and so a prompt reply - it is much appreciated. He was a bit of a bad lad. Cheers Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trev Symonds" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Henry ROCHESTER > > Information from newspaper on Henry ROCHESTER's crime sent as an > attachment > off-List. > Trish > Nowra NSW > > >> Need help with Henry who was tried 1791 at Sussex and arrived in Port >> Jackson 1792 on the "Royal Admiral". Found references in Colonial >> Secretary's Index 1788-1825,and 1828 Census. >> >> Would like to know his crime if possible, or any other information. He >> married Margaret Hayes, convict on the " Marquis Cornwallis" in 1786, in >> 1803 and had two children, James Rochester who married Elizabeth Nowland, >> daughter of Michael Nowland "Scarborough 1790, " and Elizabeth, Richards >> " >> Lady Juliana" and Ann Rochester who arried John Hall. >>

Information from newspaper on Henry ROCHESTER's crime sent as an attachment off-List. Trish Nowra NSW > Need help with Henry who was tried 1791 at Sussex and arrived in Port > Jackson 1792 on the "Royal Admiral". Found references in Colonial > Secretary's Index 1788-1825,and 1828 Census. > > Would like to know his crime if possible, or any other information. He > married Margaret Hayes, convict on the " Marquis Cornwallis" in 1786, in > 1803 and had two children, James Rochester who married Elizabeth Nowland, > daughter of Michael Nowland "Scarborough 1790, " and Elizabeth, Richards " > Lady Juliana" and Ann Rochester who arried John Hall. > > Any help gratefully accepted. > > cheers > Joanne

Hi Listers, Is there any index available of convicts who died in custody please? Richard CHAPMAN was sentenced by the Middlesex Jury in April 1819 to life. He was on the same ship, Coromandel, as my GG grandfather George DUDLEY who later assumed that name "CHAPMAN" as an alias although he reverted to DUDLEY and later called himself George Chapman DUDLEY although this last did not appear in records until his marriage in 1858. DUDLEY may have assumed this name if he knew that Chapman had died. If there is an index where would it be available please? Cheers Peter Melbourne

Hi Listers Need help with Henry who was tried 1791 at Sussex and arrived in Port Jackson 1792 on the "Royal Admiral". Found references in Colonial Secretary's Index 1788-1825,and 1828 Census. Would like to know his crime if possible, or any other information. He married Margaret Hayes, convict on the " Marquis Cornwallis" in 1786, in 1803 and had two children, James Rochester who married Elizabeth Nowland, daughter of Michael Nowland "Scarborough 1790, " and Elizabeth, Richards " Lady Juliana" and Ann Rochester who arried John Hall. Any help gratefully accepted. cheers Joanne

I have John Lyons marring Mary Bourke in Tas 1856 I managed to find my way to his convict record. He is listed as married in the convict record would he have had his wife with him? Does anyone have this family in their tree? Any help gratefully accepted Thanks, Kaye

Hi Thanks Jan for that information. Have seen all the records that are in Australia, (I think) but none that I have seen give his offence. I googled "Chester Great Sessions" and found a very informative website, that may be of use to others. http://www.earlymodernweb.org.uk/waleslaw/gfintro.htm It has a searchable database, but unfortunately my man was not there. I don't think it is completed yet, but it is certainly worth taking a look if your convict came from Wales. Cheers Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Daly" <jdaly270@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Chester Great Sessions > > Annette > > Just in case you are not already be aware of the information in the > Tasmanian archives you might like to check there. > http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/ I found his record on the Conduct > Register > (Item No: CON31/1/13 - image 145). It seems he was granted conditional > emancipation (1437) on 7 August 1821. Unfortunately his crime is not > reported - only the life sentence which was apparently imposed on 13 > January > 1801. > > The records of the Chester Great Sessions seem to be held at the National > Archives at Kew. I have had a quick look at the catalogue and the records > are listed within series CHES; http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk > > If you are not planning a trip to Kew yourself you might be able to get > someone to do the research for you - the National Archives website has > some > links to professional researchers. There would no doubt be a fee, > however, > I don't think it would actually take very long to do, especially as you > have > the approximate date and place of the trial. > > Jan Daly > Sydney > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Annette Cooke > Sent: 14 March 2009 11:50 > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Chester Great Sessions > > Hi Listers > > I have a convict, John Gee, who was convicted at the Chester Great > Sessions > for Life, leaving England in September 1802 on board the Glatton. > > To date no one has found his crime, though some believe he was a Irish > Rebel, but there is no evidence to support this assumption that I have > been > able to see. > > Can anyone suggest what would be the next move. Documentation in > Australia > does not mention his crime. > > John Gee went to Tasmania to cut cedar and married there. He died at 100 > years old in 1872. > > Thanks for any advice. > > Annette > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A man in England, I think his name is Brian Swan, in conducting research into all the convicts on the HMS Glatton. Perhaps you can search and find him under his name or under HMS Glatton. Regards Betty Candy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Cooke" <kacooke@smartchat.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] Chester Great Sessions > Hi Listers > > I have a convict, John Gee, who was convicted at the Chester Great > Sessions > for Life, leaving England in September 1802 on board the Glatton. > > To date no one has found his crime, though some believe he was a Irish > Rebel, but there is no evidence to support this assumption that I have > been > able to see. > > Can anyone suggest what would be the next move. Documentation in > Australia > does not mention his crime. > > John Gee went to Tasmania to cut cedar and married there. He died at 100 > years old in 1872. > > Thanks for any advice. > > Annette > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.13/1999 - Release Date: 03/13/09 05:59:00

Annette Just in case you are not already be aware of the information in the Tasmanian archives you might like to check there. http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/ I found his record on the Conduct Register (Item No: CON31/1/13 - image 145). It seems he was granted conditional emancipation (1437) on 7 August 1821. Unfortunately his crime is not reported - only the life sentence which was apparently imposed on 13 January 1801. The records of the Chester Great Sessions seem to be held at the National Archives at Kew. I have had a quick look at the catalogue and the records are listed within series CHES; http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk If you are not planning a trip to Kew yourself you might be able to get someone to do the research for you - the National Archives website has some links to professional researchers. There would no doubt be a fee, however, I don't think it would actually take very long to do, especially as you have the approximate date and place of the trial. Jan Daly Sydney -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Annette Cooke Sent: 14 March 2009 11:50 To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Chester Great Sessions Hi Listers I have a convict, John Gee, who was convicted at the Chester Great Sessions for Life, leaving England in September 1802 on board the Glatton. To date no one has found his crime, though some believe he was a Irish Rebel, but there is no evidence to support this assumption that I have been able to see. Can anyone suggest what would be the next move. Documentation in Australia does not mention his crime. John Gee went to Tasmania to cut cedar and married there. He died at 100 years old in 1872. Thanks for any advice. Annette ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I have a convict, John Gee, who was convicted at the Chester Great Sessions for Life, leaving England in September 1802 on board the Glatton. To date no one has found his crime, though some believe he was a Irish Rebel, but there is no evidence to support this assumption that I have been able to see. Can anyone suggest what would be the next move. Documentation in Australia does not mention his crime. John Gee went to Tasmania to cut cedar and married there. He died at 100 years old in 1872. Thanks for any advice. Annette

If your convict is from Wales it's also worth looking at   http://www.llgc.org.uk/sesiwn_fawr/index_s.htm   index of all Great Sessions (sesiwn fawr) cases in Wales from 1730 - 1830.  Includes people resident in England but accused of crime in Wales.  Much of North Wales was on the Chester Circuit.   Nothing there for John Gee I'm afraid.  Several for a Daniel Gee, from Chester.   I have a CD-ROM which gives names for 1706-1800 Denbighshire Quarter Sessions Rolls if anyone has a look-up they want there.  Gives name and crime, sometimes sentence.   Chris           Chris.   --- On Sat, 14/3/09, Annette Cooke <kacooke@smartchat.net.au> wrote: From: Annette Cooke <kacooke@smartchat.net.au> Subject: [AUS-CON] Chester Great Sessions To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 14 March, 2009, 12:49 AM Hi Listers I have a convict, John Gee, who was convicted at the Chester Great Sessions for Life, leaving England in September 1802 on board the Glatton. To date no one has found his crime, though some believe he was a Irish Rebel, but there is no evidence to support this assumption that I have been able to see. Can anyone suggest what would be the next move. Documentation in Australia does not mention his crime. John Gee went to Tasmania to cut cedar and married there. He died at 100 years old in 1872. Thanks for any advice. Annette ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had trouble moving the page down on the record but it says he was in Poor Health on arrival ws admitted to Hospital on the 18th and died on the 19th of August 52 it is written in an old hand are you sure that is the ship he arrived on? -- "

Yes, they did. A holder of a Ticket of Leave was still a convict therefore had to apply for permission. An ex-convict in receipt of a Pardon (Absolute / Conditional) or a convict who had served their sentence and in receipt of a Certificate of Freedom did not have to apply. regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Gavin and Marites Spicer Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:51 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Permission to marry Hi Can some body out there please assist. Once a convict has a ticket of leave is that person still required to apply for permission to marry? Thank you. Gav

Pretty sure it was the Dalhousie. Not so sure it is the right Patrick Slattery. That is what I am trying to determine. Thanks for your information. It is very helpful. Ken Slattery -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Heather Denholm Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:16 AM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Patrick SLATTERY per Lord Dalhouse I had trouble moving the page down on the record but it says he was in Poor Health on arrival ws admitted to Hospital on the 18th and died on the 19th of August 52 it is written in an old hand are you sure that is the ship he arrived on? -- " ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto.

Hi Can some body out there please assist. Once a convict has a ticket of leave is that person still required to apply for permission to marry? Thank you. Gav

----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSAN CLARKE" <susaneclarke@btinternet.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: [AUS-CON] GULLIVER > hi has anyone any info on BEN GULLIVER of TOWNSVILLE. HE owned > acacia vale gardens. Hi Susan What possible connection does he have to be a convict ? This is the AUS-CONVICTs mailing list ?? I think the better mailing list for this query would be AUS-QLD see http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-QLD.html I just had a quick look in some Qld electoral rolls ........... 1903 - 1936 Theres a Benjamin John GULLIVER, gardener, of Acacia Vale Gardens , Townsville . By 1936 he was a nurseryman of same address Not in the 1949 roll for Qld HTH Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

hi has anyone any info on BEN GULLIVER of TOWNSVILLE. HE  owned acacia vale  gardens. thanks Susan Clarke England

Kenneth...it is a long shot.....but there was a Patrick Slattery around the Warrnambool district for a short period of time in the early 1850's...I will have to check my notes, but he fathered the illeg. child of my g..g. aunt. And I had also picked up a reference to him.....(need to double check to be sure) that he might have worked for a period of time as a groom I will get onto these notes latter tonight cheers Jenny Fawcett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Slattery" <Kenneth.Slattery@silabs.com> To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> Cc: <kmslattery@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] Patrick Slattery > I am trying to locate information regarding my great-grand father, who > was a guest of the English judicial system in Australia. > > > > Patrick Slattery > > Born 1830 - 32 > > Roscommon, Ireland > > > > Case #S4360 - Larceny > > June 4, 1848 > > Sentenced to 7 years in Australia > > Shipped via Lord Dalhousie > > Left Queenstown, March 3, 1852 > > Arrived Victoria, August 14, 1852 > > > > Document Reference # TR8, p73, CRF1850524 > > > > I have no information between Aug 4, 1852 and when he reappeared in > County Galway, Ireland circa 1859-60 > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Slattery > > > > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, > and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original > and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=I&id=CON33/1/109 this page is the record of Patrick Slattery then click the link view this record on line and using the drop down page list go to page 293 for his conduct record Heather On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:00 PM, <aus-convicts-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Patrick Slattery (Kenneth Slattery) > 2. Re: Patrick Slattery (Joan Fawcett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:32:09 -0500 > From: "Kenneth Slattery" <Kenneth.Slattery@silabs.com> > Subject: [AUS-CON] Patrick Slattery > To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> > Cc: kmslattery@hotmail.com > Message-ID: > <1A13D31DF6187D49B0A0FE8CF031FB0301E36A7A@EXCAUS001.silabs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I am trying to locate information regarding my great-grand father, who > was a guest of the English judicial system in Australia. > > > > Patrick Slattery > > Born 1830 - 32 > > Roscommon, Ireland > > > > Case #S4360 - Larceny > > June 4, 1848 > > Sentenced to 7 years in Australia > > Shipped via Lord Dalhousie > > Left Queenstown, March 3, 1852 > > Arrived Victoria, August 14, 1852 > > > > Document Reference # TR8, p73, CRF1850524 > > > > I have no information between Aug 4, 1852 and when he reappeared in > County Galway, Ireland circa 1859-60 > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Slattery > > > > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, > and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original > and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:08:54 +1100 > From: "Joan Fawcett" <jfawcett@hotkey.net.au> > Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Patrick Slattery > To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00b601c9a14f$13cc1540$2ff832d2@oemcomputer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Kenneth...it is a long shot.....but there was a Patrick Slattery around > the > Warrnambool district for a short period of time in the early 1850's...I > will > have to check my notes, but he fathered the illeg. child of my g..g. aunt. > > And I had also picked up a reference to him.....(need to double check to be > sure) that he might have worked for a period of time as a groom > > I will get onto these notes latter tonight > cheers > Jenny Fawcett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Slattery" <Kenneth.Slattery@silabs.com> > To: <AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <kmslattery@hotmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:32 AM > Subject: [AUS-CON] Patrick Slattery > > > > I am trying to locate information regarding my great-grand father, who > > was a guest of the English judicial system in Australia. > > > > > > > > Patrick Slattery > > > > Born 1830 - 32 > > > > Roscommon, Ireland > > > > > > > > Case #S4360 - Larceny > > > > June 4, 1848 > > > > Sentenced to 7 years in Australia > > > > Shipped via Lord Dalhousie > > > > Left Queenstown, March 3, 1852 > > > > Arrived Victoria, August 14, 1852 > > > > > > > > Document Reference # TR8, p73, CRF1850524 > > > > > > > > I have no information between Aug 4, 1852 and when he reappeared in > > County Galway, Ireland circa 1859-60 > > > > > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenneth Slattery > > > > > > > > > > This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, > > and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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Arrival of the Lord Dalhousie from Cork 30th Apr 1852 to Hobart Town 14th Aug 1852 Vessel details Name Lord Dalhousie Type Unknown Convicts on board Master W T Ferris from convictions CD data base --