Is there any significance in the first approval being given on Christmas Eve in 1839. Maybe the religious days prevented them from marrying that year and they had to reapply in the New Year 1840? Just a thought. I do not know if this is the sort of thing that could happen or not. Linda --- On Fri, 27/3/09, Michelle Watson <michelle@webcon.net.au> wrote: From: Michelle Watson <michelle@webcon.net.au> Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Thomas WOOTTON and Mary O'DONNELL/O'CONNELL - Taree/PortMacquarie To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Friday, 27 March, 2009, 1:17 PM At 12:09 PM 27/03/2009, you wrote: >Michelle, When I looked for a registered marriage for Thomas and Mary.. the >entries that I posted for 1840 were the only ones I could see on the >index... both for 1840.. are you saying they married before that?? No, they married in Apr 1840. But they had two approvals to marry, one from 1839 and one from Jan 1840. >I am not sure about the church issue.. quite likely there was no other >option. > >I do alot of transcribing.. and often all possibilities for a name will be >entered just in case it is wrong. (I think that is what has happened here) >However it cannot be ruled out that there was an alias... until you have >documentery evidence to prove it!! I think what you said before about accent might have played a part. She never seemed to use any other name, so I don't think it's an alias. My suspicion is that maybe they got the first permission and the paperwork got lost and they got another one just to make sure they were covered. >You can check their register entries online... at the NSW births deaths and >marriages.. they have online indexes 1788-1958 for marriages. I feel it >unlikely that they married twice.. just that the registration took place >(most likely once in Macquarie and once in Sydney at the main registration >point) If I understand it correctly the V...... 26 B part tells where it was >registered and the year. I am not sure how much the certificate would be >able to tell you as they are church records.. and quite often very little is >held on them. I recommend using a transcription agent ( it will only cost >you $20 for both) and that way you dont waste a heap of money to get no >further. Well, I've ordered them so we will see! >Ohh I didnt mention earlier the Port Macquaried.. Church of England thing.. >is mentioned in a table of early church codes on the births deaths and >marriages website.. so when you look up the certificates scroll to the very >bottom of the page and you will see the link to the church codes it will >open up in a separate window. Yes, I checked that. Very handy. I've got a few others I will go back and check that info for. >I am sorry I couldnt be of more help with this little puzzle.. I have >entered everything I can think of to help. > >Sue. You've given me plenty to work with, much appreciated. Cheers, Michelle --------------------- Michelle Watson michelle@webcon.net.au Watson/Canet Family History - http://watsoncanet.webcon.net.au/ Researching: Watson, Canet, Harper, Whitley, Rann, Hamilton, O'Donnell, Wilkes, Freeman, Munro, Brown, Baker, Hughes, Davis, Sandilands  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Janice & John, I may be able to help you with Joseph Onus, they settled at Richmond and married into the Powell family, I think their old home may still be standing at Richmond. Windsor Library is sure to have lots on the Onus families. Regards Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Janice Taylor" <ron.jantaylor@bigpond.com> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Edward Taylor > Thanks for the quick reply. > > I have not checked the Indent for the "Elizabeth" where could I do that?? > > I have looked at the others, not sure about the Colonial Sec Reels, could > you tell me how to access these. > > I know that he was assigned to Joseph Onus, but cannot find out a great > deal > more. > > He died in 1886 and his death certificate revealed very little other than > born in England. > I was hoping there may be more info on the sources given when he was > assigned etc. > > Thanks, > >

Lesley, Thank you very much for that, much appreciated. Any ideas as to why they may have sought permission twice to marry? Cheers, Michelle At 05:00 PM 26/03/2009, you wrote: >Hi Michelle > >Mary "O'Donnell was tried in Clare in 1836 and arrived in 1837 on the "Sir >Charles Forbes" in 1837 > >Source: The Port Jackson Anthology CD > >The Indents are available at many large libraries > >regards > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Michelle Watson >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:50 PM >To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AUS-CON] Thomas WOOTTON and Mary O'DONNELL/O'CONNELL - >Taree/PortMacquarie > > >Hi Everyone, > >This is my first post, so please forgive me if I'm breaking any rules. > >I've hit a bit of a brick wall with my research into Thomas WOOTTON >and his wife Mary O'DONNELL. > >I've been able to find most of the information I need about Thomas >(except what he was convicted of at the Stafford Quarter Sessions on >15 Oct 1823). > >Information for a published source ie Manning Wallamba Family History >Society Inc, Pre 1860 Pioneer Register, 2004 states that Mary >O'DONNELL was transported on the Sir Charles Forbes from Ireland on >the 11th of August, 1837 arriving in NSW on the 25th December 1837. >However, I've been unable to find her in any of the records I have on hand. > >To further complicate things, I have two records from Registers of >Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1825-1851 > >1. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the >Countess of Harcourt 1824 >to Mary O'DONNELL (age 21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir >Charles Forbes 1837 > >Permission to Marry - 24 Dec 1839 - Port Macquarie > >2. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the >Countess of Harcourt 1824 >to Mary O'CONNELL (21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir >Charles Forbes 1837 > >Permission to Marry - 21 Jan 1840 - Port Macquarie > >Now, I know these are somewhat common names, but it seems unlikely >for two such similar pairings to occur. > >I think they are the same couple, but why would they get permission >twice? And why the differences in names for Mary? > >I've been trying to track down Mary and have checked under both names >but haven't been able to find any records for her. > >Is there anywhere online that I can check who was on a specific ship >for a specific trip? I need online as I don't have access to any of >the CD's that this sort of thing is usually on. > >These are my only convict ancestors, so it's all new territory to me, >so any suggestions are welcome. > >Cheers, >Michelle > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------- Michelle Watson michelle@webcon.net.au Watson/Canet Family History - http://watsoncanet.webcon.net.au/ Researching: Watson, Canet, Harper, Whitley, Rann, Hamilton, O'Donnell, Wilkes, Freeman, Munro, Brown, Baker, Hughes, Davis, Sandilands

Hi Michelle Mary "O'Donnell was tried in Clare in 1836 and arrived in 1837 on the "Sir Charles Forbes" in 1837 Source: The Port Jackson Anthology CD The Indents are available at many large libraries regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Michelle Watson Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:50 PM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Thomas WOOTTON and Mary O'DONNELL/O'CONNELL - Taree/PortMacquarie Hi Everyone, This is my first post, so please forgive me if I'm breaking any rules. I've hit a bit of a brick wall with my research into Thomas WOOTTON and his wife Mary O'DONNELL. I've been able to find most of the information I need about Thomas (except what he was convicted of at the Stafford Quarter Sessions on 15 Oct 1823). Information for a published source ie Manning Wallamba Family History Society Inc, Pre 1860 Pioneer Register, 2004 states that Mary O'DONNELL was transported on the Sir Charles Forbes from Ireland on the 11th of August, 1837 arriving in NSW on the 25th December 1837. However, I've been unable to find her in any of the records I have on hand. To further complicate things, I have two records from Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1825-1851 1. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Countess of Harcourt 1824 to Mary O'DONNELL (age 21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir Charles Forbes 1837 Permission to Marry - 24 Dec 1839 - Port Macquarie 2. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Countess of Harcourt 1824 to Mary O'CONNELL (21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir Charles Forbes 1837 Permission to Marry - 21 Jan 1840 - Port Macquarie Now, I know these are somewhat common names, but it seems unlikely for two such similar pairings to occur. I think they are the same couple, but why would they get permission twice? And why the differences in names for Mary? I've been trying to track down Mary and have checked under both names but haven't been able to find any records for her. Is there anywhere online that I can check who was on a specific ship for a specific trip? I need online as I don't have access to any of the CD's that this sort of thing is usually on. These are my only convict ancestors, so it's all new territory to me, so any suggestions are welcome. Cheers, Michelle

Hi Janice The Indents are available on microfiche and are available at many large libraries in NSW, many State Libraries and probably at some family history groups etc. The Col. Sec. films are part from the ARK series of films produced by the NSW State Records, and again are available at many large libraries. It is best to check these as sometimes you will find the information on the Index is in error. You could also check the post 1825 Col. Sex. Index produced by Joan Reese..... available on microfiche Although he was assigned to Joseph Onus in 1822, that does not mean that he stayed with him for any length of time. The type of information you will find on the Indent for his transports is as follows: Ship .. Elizabeth I (3) Arrived Port Jackson .. 30 December 1820 From: .. England Tons .. 482 Master .. William Ostler Surgeon .. Samuel Alexander Name .. Yes Convict Number .. No Where Tried .. Yes When Tried .. Yes Term .. Yes Native Place .. Yes Age .. Yes Height .. Yes Complexion .. Yes Hair colour .. Yes Eye colour .. Yes Calling .. Yes Crime .. No Previous Convictions .. No Education .. No Religion .. No Marital Status .. No Family M/F .. No How disposed of .. No Other Remarks .. No TOL/CP/AP .. Yes Colonial Sentence .. No Ticket of - Leave / Exemption .. No Pardons - Conditional / Absolute / Colonial .. No Certificate of Freedom .. No Dead or Left Colony .. No Miscellany .. No Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John & Janice Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:34 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Edward Taylor Thanks for the quick reply. I have not checked the Indent for the "Elizabeth" where could I do that?? I have looked at the others, not sure about the Colonial Sec Reels, could you tell me how to access these. I know that he was assigned to Joseph Onus, but cannot find out a great deal more. He died in 1886 and his death certificate revealed very little other than born in England. I was hoping there may be more info on the sources given when he was assigned etc. Thanks, Janice

Hi Everyone, This is my first post, so please forgive me if I'm breaking any rules. I've hit a bit of a brick wall with my research into Thomas WOOTTON and his wife Mary O'DONNELL. I've been able to find most of the information I need about Thomas (except what he was convicted of at the Stafford Quarter Sessions on 15 Oct 1823). Information for a published source ie Manning Wallamba Family History Society Inc, Pre 1860 Pioneer Register, 2004 states that Mary O'DONNELL was transported on the Sir Charles Forbes from Ireland on the 11th of August, 1837 arriving in NSW on the 25th December 1837. However, I've been unable to find her in any of the records I have on hand. To further complicate things, I have two records from Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1825-1851 1. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Countess of Harcourt 1824 to Mary O'DONNELL (age 21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir Charles Forbes 1837 Permission to Marry - 24 Dec 1839 - Port Macquarie 2. Thomas WOOTTON (age 40) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Countess of Harcourt 1824 to Mary O'CONNELL (21) sentanced 7 years, transported on the Sir Charles Forbes 1837 Permission to Marry - 21 Jan 1840 - Port Macquarie Now, I know these are somewhat common names, but it seems unlikely for two such similar pairings to occur. I think they are the same couple, but why would they get permission twice? And why the differences in names for Mary? I've been trying to track down Mary and have checked under both names but haven't been able to find any records for her. Is there anywhere online that I can check who was on a specific ship for a specific trip? I need online as I don't have access to any of the CD's that this sort of thing is usually on. These are my only convict ancestors, so it's all new territory to me, so any suggestions are welcome. Cheers, Michelle --------------------- Michelle Watson michelle@webcon.net.au Watson/Canet Family History - http://watsoncanet.webcon.net.au/ Researching: Watson, Canet, Harper, Whitley, Rann, Hamilton, O'Donnell, Wilkes, Freeman, Munro, Brown, Baker, Hughes, Davis, Sandilands

Thanks for the quick reply. I have not checked the Indent for the "Elizabeth" where could I do that?? I have looked at the others, not sure about the Colonial Sec Reels, could you tell me how to access these. I know that he was assigned to Joseph Onus, but cannot find out a great deal more. He died in 1886 and his death certificate revealed very little other than born in England. I was hoping there may be more info on the sources given when he was assigned etc. Thanks, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] Edward Taylor > Hi Janice > > Have you checked the Indent for the "Elizabeth" > > Have you checked the 1822 General Muster, the 1823/4/5 General Muster > List, the > 1828 NSW Census, the 1837 General Return of Convicts ? > > Have you obtained a copy of his Conditional Pardon? > > Have you checked the Colonial Sec. Reels ? > > Have you checked the Convicts Permissions to Marry? > > He was assigned to Joseph Onus of Richmond in April 1822. > > > Regards > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John & Janice > Taylor > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:34 PM > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] Edward Taylor > > > Could anyone tell me how to discover more information relating to my > convict > details. > I have mention of him in the Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825. > 1821 Jan On list of convicts disembarked from the 'Elizabeth and > forwarded to > Airds for distribution (Reel 6007; 4/3503 p38) and > 1822 Apr On list of prisoners assigned (Fiche 3291; 4/4570D p 121) > > Any assistance would be great, > > Thanks > > Janice Taylor > > \ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Janice Have you checked the Indent for the "Elizabeth" Have you checked the 1822 General Muster, the 1823/4/5 General Muster List, the 1828 NSW Census, the 1837 General Return of Convicts ? Have you obtained a copy of his Conditional Pardon? Have you checked the Colonial Sec. Reels ? Have you checked the Convicts Permissions to Marry? He was assigned to Joseph Onus of Richmond in April 1822. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John & Janice Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:34 PM To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] Edward Taylor Could anyone tell me how to discover more information relating to my convict details. I have mention of him in the Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825. 1821 Jan On list of convicts disembarked from the 'Elizabeth and forwarded to Airds for distribution (Reel 6007; 4/3503 p38) and 1822 Apr On list of prisoners assigned (Fiche 3291; 4/4570D p 121) Any assistance would be great, Thanks Janice Taylor \

Could anyone tell me how to discover more information relating to my convict details. I have mention of him in the Colonial Secretary Index 1788-1825. 1821 Jan On list of convicts disembarked from the 'Elizabeth and forwarded to Airds for distribution (Reel 6007; 4/3503 p38) and 1822 Apr On list of prisoners assigned (Fiche 3291; 4/4570D p 121) Any assistance would be great, Thanks Janice Taylor

Thanks Linda I did have alook at that site and there was a william Kelly who married at Cork and also a Catherine Condon married at Cork both in 1803.Possible match.Maybe convict William was born in Cork and later went to Limerick . Thanks again Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Combe" <linda_necia@yahoo.com.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Kelley > Hi Debbie, > Do you know about Peter Mayberry's website about the Irish Convicts to > Australia: > http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi > I found that the William Kelly who came on Larkins in 1829 was from Cork > City and was sentenced to Life for stealing wine from his master. > That William Kelley received his certificate of freedom on 30/4/1836 - > online index NSW state records. I think you can look at the microfilm at > State Library in Macquarie Street or any library holding the ARK records > and find more details where it was issued etc. > There is no record of a petition to send out his first wife on the Irish > National Archives site. > The thing about this William Kelly which makes it a bit doubtful is that > his native place is Cork City and on your death certificate it says > Limerick. Maybe he was born in Limerick and lived in Cork after childhood? > Someone once told me it is very hard to trace births in Ireland. You could > try http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php > this site lets you make free searches but with a common name like William > Kelly it would be hard to find the right one without a parish name to > narrow it down. > Coincidentally (or not?) there are 2 Condons, William and Patrick, also on > Larkins in 1829 and also from Cork city. > Can't really help with definite matching of parents to convict. You were > lucky to get their names on the death certificate. > Regards > Linda > > --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Debbie & Rick Wright <wrightie2@bigpond.com> wrote: > > From: Debbie & Rick Wright <wrightie2@bigpond.com> > Subject: [AUS-CON] William Kelley > To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com > Received: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 3:28 PM > > Hi All > I am in need of any help or direction anyone can give. > The following information is stated on his death certificate > William Kelley( farmer) > Born 1804 > Died 1879 Frederickton Nsw > Mother Catherine Condon > Father William Kelley( farmer) > Born Co Limerick has been in Nsw 50 years. > > I know he was married in 1850 at Port Macquaie Nsw and spent the remaining > years in the area.I can find no records of his birth. I have decovered 1 x > William Kelly that was a convict on board Larkins in 1829 which if death > certificate is corect could be him.How does one know for sure? is there > any way to cross reference convicts with parents to ensure the correct one > .William as his marriage certificate states had been previously married, > this perticular convict did have a wife and 4 children. Any direction > would be greatly appreciated. > Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Debbie, Do you know about Peter Mayberry's website about the Irish Convicts to Australia: http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi I found that the William Kelly who came on Larkins in 1829 was from Cork City and was sentenced to Life for stealing wine from his master. That William Kelley received his certificate of freedom on 30/4/1836 - online index NSW state records. I think you can look at the microfilm at State Library in Macquarie Street or any library holding the ARK records and find more details where it was issued etc. There is no record of a petition to send out his first wife on the Irish National Archives site. The thing about this William Kelly which makes it a bit doubtful is that his native place is Cork City and on your death certificate it says Limerick. Maybe he was born in Limerick and lived in Cork after childhood? Someone once told me it is very hard to trace births in Ireland. You could try http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php this site lets you make free searches but with a common name like William Kelly it would be hard to find the right one without a parish name to narrow it down. Coincidentally (or not?) there are 2 Condons, William and Patrick, also on Larkins in 1829 and also from Cork city. Can't really help with definite matching of parents to convict. You were lucky to get their names on the death certificate. Regards Linda --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Debbie & Rick Wright <wrightie2@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Debbie & Rick Wright <wrightie2@bigpond.com> Subject: [AUS-CON] William Kelley To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 3:28 PM Hi All I am in need of any help or direction anyone can give. The following information is stated on his death certificate William Kelley( farmer) Born 1804 Died 1879 Frederickton Nsw Mother Catherine Condon Father William Kelley( farmer) Born Co Limerick has been in Nsw 50 years. I know he was married in 1850 at Port Macquaie Nsw and spent the remaining years in the area.I can find no records of his birth. I have decovered 1 x William Kelly that was a convict on board Larkins in 1829 which if death certificate is corect could be him.How does one know for sure? is there any way to cross reference convicts with parents to ensure the correct one .William as his marriage certificate states had been previously married, this perticular convict did have a wife and 4 children. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Debbie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All I am in need of any help or direction anyone can give. The following information is stated on his death certificate William Kelley( farmer) Born 1804 Died 1879 Frederickton Nsw Mother Catherine Condon Father William Kelley( farmer) Born Co Limerick has been in Nsw 50 years. I know he was married in 1850 at Port Macquaie Nsw and spent the remaining years in the area.I can find no records of his birth. I have decovered 1 x William Kelly that was a convict on board Larkins in 1829 which if death certificate is corect could be him.How does one know for sure? is there any way to cross reference convicts with parents to ensure the correct one .William as his marriage certificate states had been previously married, this perticular convict did have a wife and 4 children. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Debbie

Hi I am trying to find information on Robert Lovelock's application to marry in 1847 to Jane Curry (Currie). He was a convict arriving in Australia on the Andromeda 1833. I have had a search at state records in the application to marry for convicts but he is not there. and on his ticket of leave recommendations for a conditional pardon is not until the 1850's. So as he is still considered to be a convict with a ticket of leave I am assuming there must be an application to marry some where. Could some kind person please point me in the right direction. I am interested in the age stated for Jane Curry when the application was submitted. Thank you. Kind Regards Gavin

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could some kind person tell me if the thomas horton on the moffatt 2 arrived sydney 1836 was he born 6th nov 1820 birmingham england he had a large scar on his left thumb or could you tell me more info about this person please regards Dianne

Hi Lesley Yes he did go under James as well which is a little difficult and apparently he was the older of the two who arrived on the Parmelia. Regards Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Uebel" <ckennedy@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-CON] William Kelly > > Hi Debbie > > Do you mean that he arrived on the Parmelia (2) in 1834 - there were two > by that > name who arrived on that transport. It appears as though he went by the > name of > James Kelly also...... so you may have to go through a process of > elimination > > regards > > > Lesley Uebel > mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au > CLAIM A CONVICT > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Debbie & Rick > Wright > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:58 AM > To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-CON] William Kelly > > > Hi all > Is there anyone who can share any info on the following. > William Kelly born 1804 Limerick. Father William Kelly and Mother > Catherine > Condon,( stated on williams death certificate)William was transported on > the > Parmelia 2 in 1829.I have a blank spot because apparently he was married > twice(stated on second marriage certificate) to Grace Jones 1850 Port > Macqurie > NSW Australia, but cannot find his first. I also can find nothing about > his > parents. > Any help or direction would be great > Regards > Debbie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Debbie Do you mean that he arrived on the Parmelia (2) in 1834 - there were two by that name who arrived on that transport. It appears as though he went by the name of James Kelly also...... so you may have to go through a process of elimination regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-convicts-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Debbie & Rick Wright Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:58 AM To: AUS-CONVICTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-CON] William Kelly Hi all Is there anyone who can share any info on the following. William Kelly born 1804 Limerick. Father William Kelly and Mother Catherine Condon,( stated on williams death certificate)William was transported on the Parmelia 2 in 1829.I have a blank spot because apparently he was married twice(stated on second marriage certificate) to Grace Jones 1850 Port Macqurie NSW Australia, but cannot find his first. I also can find nothing about his parents. Any help or direction would be great Regards Debbie

Margaret Hughes AkA Mary Ann Whalen arrived on the " FORTH " from Dublin 1830. Why Margaret did you not tell your family why both your brother who arrived 1829 and yourself used the both surnames. Kath

Hi Listers, Could some kind lister who is going to Kingswood, and has the time, look something up for me please. I am seeking a discharge date from Cockatoo Island for a convict George DUDLEY alias George CHAPMAN. DUDLEY/CHAPMAN was in the first batch of convicts sent to the island in 1839. He was certainly free by May 1841 as I have found a permission to marry on 16/05/1841 which states he was free. What I wish to establish is when he was granted his freedom. The record details I have found on the State Records site are: Series # 12216 Descriptive Note:- 4/4540; microfilm copy SR Reel 605 If anyone can check this for a reference I will be able to order the appropriate record from the State Records Office. Cheers Peter Melbourne

Hi Kaye, Do you know where John Lyons came from, I have a Catherine Lyon in my family, she was not a convict but married a convict in Tas. Contact me off line at craftysue@optusnetnet.com.au Regards Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaye o'reilly" <macore@tadaust.org.au> To: <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [AUS-CON] John Lyons & Mary Bourke >I have John Lyons marring Mary Bourke in Tas 1856 > > I managed to find my way to his convict record. > > > > He is listed as married in the convict record would he have had his wife > with him? > > > > Does anyone have this family in their tree? > > > > Any help gratefully accepted > > > > Thanks, Kaye > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-CONVICTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 03/15/09 14:07:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1155 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message