What information are you needing on Sue Haney?

Yes, I am. Haven't talked to her for some time. Just trying to fill in some blanks. Wes

I am looking for the marriage date of my grandparents, Nevada Josiah Barker and Ida R. Torbitt and any information on her parents Demin Torbitt, b. 1848 in Tennessee and Sarah Salina Butterfield, b. 1851 in Ark. E-mail me at carhodes@txucom.net

Faye, I was hoping you would see my query. You are such a wealth of information on Yell County and I love to read your replies. I'll try to answer some of your questions. The census says Mary Anvilee was born in TN, her father in SC, and her mother in Ireland. Also, we know from her tombstone that she was born in Meigs County TN. We can find her with her father Enoch LADD there in 1850 and 1860 as Emaline--yes, that's worrisome but her birth years match clear to 1870 when she's listed as Anvilee. Then there's this marriage record of Miles LADD age 21 [1855] to Mary A. LADD age 23 [1854]. Think Mary fudged a bit on her age?? LADD researchers think that Mary Anvilee LADD first married Amos LADD, a son of Miles and Rachel STOW LADD. After his death, she married his youngest brother Miles LADD. Since my posting, I found Miles listed as being 5 on the 1860 census of Scott County AR, a son of Miles and Rachel STOW LADD. Mary and Miles were distant cousins--I can't figure out right now how distant. Some of the other researchers have this down, I obviously don't. So, the step-daughter is a LADD from Mary's first marriage to Amos LADD. (Although I do know of plenty of cases where the census taker wasn't too careful about the last name of the step-children.) I don't know why Miles' tombstone says Meigs County since he lived in Arkansas his whole life as far I we can figure. It must be in error, as is his birth date which is nearly identical to Mary Anvilee's anyway. Would there be newspaper reports of the deaths of Miles and Mary Anvilee in 1899?? As far as Old Amos LADD, in 1860 he is in Polk County AR. By 1870 he is in San Diego County, California, Warners Ranch District. In 1880 he is living with his son John Milton LADD and family in California. 1880 Census Place: Wilmington, Los Angeles, California Source: FHL Film 1254067 National Archives Film T9-0067 Page 357B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John M. LADD Self M M W 32 AR [1848] Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: IN Mo: AR Sarah L. LADD Wife F M W 30 AR Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: AL Amos LADD GFather M W W 71 IN [1809] [John's father not grandfather] Occ: At Home Fa: SC Mo: SC John D. LADD Son M S W 9 CA Fa: AR Mo: AR Joseph O. LADD Son M S W 6 CA Fa: AR Mo: AR Henry O. LADD Son M S W 3 CA Fa: AR Mo: AR Ada LADD Dau F S W 1 CA Fa: AR Mo: AR Ida LADD Dau F S W 1 CA Fa: AR Mo: AR [More children were born after 1880] We could use some help with Amos' marriages. In 1850 he is married to Manetta b. 1823 AR, 1860 Sarah A. b. 1816 in TN, in 1870 Amos is married to Sarah b. 1834 in TX. Probably these marriages occurred in Polk Co. AR and I haven't explored that yet. In 1850, the LADDs listed in the printed census of Arkansas are Dick LAD, Crawford Co Amos, Polk Co Hester, Yell Co John, Polk Co Miles, Polk Co and one more incorrectly listed as SADD, my gggrandfather Constantine, Yell Co Although not proven by any one document, we figure Amos, John, Miles, and Constantine are brothers and the sons of Joseph LADD and Hester _____ LADD. Hester listed above is their mother. Other children are most likely William J. LADD who married Emeline BORING, Leona LADD who married Abraham STOW, Ruth M. LADD who married Johnson HALL after her sister died, Delilah LADD who married Johnson HALL, and Milton LADD who married Mary MORSE. We are still unsure about Dick LAD who is 54 b. SC and living with James ARMSTRONG. Appreciate your help Faye and welcome any other information. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "thesandys" <thesandys@msn.com> To: "Newell Family" <newell@concourse.net> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [ARYELL-L] LADD in 1899 > Janet, I have a couple of thoughts on the data you posted. One thing I see > in the 1880 census you listed is that since Mary showed SC MO IRELAND that > reads father b SC, mother Born MO, self born Ireland (know that's not right) > however, if she was born missouri then > it isn't your Mary and I would say that is possibly true, since she has a > daughter Martha listed as Step Daughter of Miles..with last name > Ladd........was she born to Mary out of wedlock? > Otherwise why did she bear her mother's maiden name? > There are a number of ways that a couple could have died the same day: Same > illness-flu, Tornado killed them, Fire burned house, They drown while > crossing a river,wagon turned over, etc. etc. etc. > All kidding aside, I believe the Ladd folks of 1850 ARk. three familys in > Yell County and two familys in Polk Family are the SAME CLAN. However the > only boy child in any of the familys that fits just right for your MILES is > the youngest son of Amos Ladd in Polk Co. who is named David M. (Miles?) > Ladd age 4............... Amos Ladd age 41 born INDIANA and Miles Ladd age > 43 born INDIANA......Miles has a son named AMOS and Amos has a son named > MILES?............that's what BROTHERS did they named their sons after their > brothers. Also the OTHER Ladd family in Polk County has a HESTER LADD, so > it just makes sense doesn't it?? Of the five Ladd familys in the entire > state of ARk. they appear to me to be ONE CLAN!! Not that far apart, Polk > Co. just over the mountain. > > What happened to OLD Amos Ladd??? Where did he move say in 1860? > Faye in Tx. (an ex-arkie) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Newell Family <newell@concourse.net> > To: <ARYELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:31 PM > Subject: [ARYELL-L] LADD in 1899 > > > > The LADD mailing list is having a problem sorting out a Miles LADD and > > I'm wondering if the Yell County list can help. Many of the LADD > > family lived in Yell County, including my LADD ancestors. > > > > In the County Line Cemetery in Logan County, Arkansas are listed four > > LADD family members, all who died in 1899. In fact, Miles LADD born > > on 5/6/1847 in Meigs County, TN died 2/16/1899 and Mary Anvilee LADD > > who was also born in Meigs County, TN, 3/6/1847 died the same day > > 2/16/1899. Would there be any record of why Miles and Mary Anvilee > > died the same day?? > > > > The 1880 Census of Petit Jean, Logan, Arkansas gives the following > > information which is ten years off for Miles. This IS Mary Anvilee > > because we know she's a daughter of Enoch LADD who was born in SC and > > Angeline McCALL LADD who was born in Ireland. Since the birthdates of > > Miles and Mary on their tombstones, are so similar, is one a mistake?? > > We think that Miles LADD is a son of Miles LADD and Rachel STOW LADD > > but the 1850 census for Miles and Rachel does not show a son Miles. > > > > Miles LADD Self M M W 23 AR [1857] > > Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: KY > > Mary LADD Wife F M W 33 TN [1847] > > Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: IRE > > Martha LADD SDau F S W 14 AR [step-daughter] > > Fa: AR Mo: TN > > Robt. LADD Son M S W 2 AR > > Fa: AR Mo: TN > > Calvin M. LADD Son M S W 8M AR > > Fa: AR Mo: TN > > > > Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated! > > Janet in California

I am forwarding this to the list. If any of you have Petillo information please write to Don. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Petillo" <donpet@uscom.com> To: <bird@scrtc.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: Genealogy Dear Mary Russel, I am seeking information about James Petillo who was born in yell county in 1839 or 1841. I think the full name is James Henderson Petillo. He is my great grandfather. He is buried in the Petillo cemetery near Centerville, ARK. Can you help me? My name is Donald Oscar Petillo ( I go by Don) . donpet@uscom.com I was born in Cyril, OK in 1930. -Regards-

Most of my kin have been in Texas since Civil War--Are you the Wes that corresponds with Dell Covey on the Covey,s?

Looking for information on Coveys and Hicks that were in the area around 1880-1890. wescovey@hotmail.com Wes

Sorry to bother you, saw you query on the Yell Co., board. noticed you were a Covey. Have youu done any research on the Coveys?? My line is out of Tn. several went into Ark. lost trace of some of the bunch. wescovey@hotmail.com Wes

I am just beginning to trace my relatives but can find no information regarding my great-grandfather, Clifford West Murphy from Centerville, Yell County, Arkansas. I keep hitting dead ends--have only been able to find an approx. birth date of 1886 and that he was married to Sula Jane Gateley (also from Centerville). Would anyone possible have information to assist me? And may I add that this is becoming an exciting hobby? *laugh* Thanks for any light you may shed on this mystery person.

HI There was a Miles Ladd in Yell County. Born August 8, 1862 died November 7, 1889. and he is buried in Nebo Cemetery, Yell County, AR you can find him other Ladds Buried at this URL http://bethg.shutdown.com/yell/ynebo.html. Although I do not have his wive's name as listed in your census. I know this one was the son of Melton Ladd and Mary "Polly" Morse. If you think this might me your Ladd I have more information Annette

The LADD mailing list is having a problem sorting out a Miles LADD and I'm wondering if the Yell County list can help. Many of the LADD family lived in Yell County, including my LADD ancestors. In the County Line Cemetery in Logan County, Arkansas are listed four LADD family members, all who died in 1899. In fact, Miles LADD born on 5/6/1847 in Meigs County, TN died 2/16/1899 and Mary Anvilee LADD who was also born in Meigs County, TN, 3/6/1847 died the same day 2/16/1899. Would there be any record of why Miles and Mary Anvilee died the same day?? The 1880 Census of Petit Jean, Logan, Arkansas gives the following information which is ten years off for Miles. This IS Mary Anvilee because we know she's a daughter of Enoch LADD who was born in SC and Angeline McCALL LADD who was born in Ireland. Since the birthdates of Miles and Mary on their tombstones, are so similar, is one a mistake?? We think that Miles LADD is a son of Miles LADD and Rachel STOW LADD but the 1850 census for Miles and Rachel does not show a son Miles. Miles LADD Self M M W 23 AR [1857] Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: KY Mary LADD Wife F M W 33 TN [1847] Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: IRE Martha LADD SDau F S W 14 AR [step-daughter] Fa: AR Mo: TN Robt. LADD Son M S W 2 AR Fa: AR Mo: TN Calvin M. LADD Son M S W 8M AR Fa: AR Mo: TN Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated! Janet in California

FYI >From the Seminole Producer, Seminole Co, Ok July 10 Bill Burton Funeral services for Konawa resident Bill Frank Burton are scheduled for Thursday at 11 a.m. at the Pickard Funeral Home Chapel in Konawa with Rev. Pam Shirk and Rev. J.B. Bond offici- ating. Burial will follow at Konawa Cemetery. Burton died Monday in Ko- nawa at the age of 72. He was born April 12, 1929 in Konawa to Gladys Amy (Jones) and Herman Floyd Burton. Burton married Rogene (Croom) in Okmulgee on Aug. 6, 1955. He served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War Burton was a pipefitter and oil- field worker, who lived all of his life in Konawa. His activities and associations included Boy Scouts, the Konawa Round-up club, the Odd Fellows, the Konawa City Council, the American Legion, and the Elks Club. He was also a lifetime member of the Konawa United Methodist Church. Burton is preceded in death by his parents. He is survived by his wife, Rogene, of the home; and two daughters, Cynthia Jane Burton, Houston, Texas; and Catherine Ann Shuffield, Stillwater. Pallbearers are Darrel Walker, Charles Carpenter, Jack Terry, Mickey Johnson, Pete Williams, Tim Green, Harrel Kennedy, and Lester Braddock. Honorary pallbearers are Herb Walker, Bill Houston, John Phelps, Roy Hughes, Dan Khoury, Milton Courtney, and Walt Lamb.

Florence Isabelle Adams married James West in 1901 in Yell Co. Arkansas. She died 07/12/1924 and is buried in Centerville Arkansas. She was born 09/01/1878 in Belafonte, Boone, AR. Her brother John Andrew Jackson Adam is my ggggrandfather. Her father was Philip Adam born in PA and her mother was Mary Jane Thompson born in OH. I have more info if you wish.

I discovered the grave of Alexander Peter Yates at Parks Ceme, Scott County, AR. It is of native stone woith his initials carved into the stone on each side. This grave is located approx 15 feet from the grave of Alexander Peter Yates the younger, either his son or grandson depending on who you ask.

Rootsweb/Ancestry have combined message boards. Please go look at them. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.arkansas.counties.yell&maxrows=25&dir=next If this entire two line url isn't highlighted, please copy and paste it into your browser window. From http: to =next is ONE address. Let me know if you have problems. I'll try and help, if I can. Mary Harkey Russell bird@scrtc.com http://www.scrtc.com/~bird

Are there any Cole's from Yell county on this list? Or anyone researching the Cole Family of Yell County, later of Washington County? Carol Morrow Besette pedsrn1@cox-internet.com Researching: MORROW, COLE, EDMISTON, COMSTOCK, DANIEL, BESETTE, AND ALLIED FAMILIES

Can anyone help with any of families below:?? Can share more info but not listing more generations for now. Any assistance appreciated. Would love to know more about grand-children and also great of Joe Marion Crabb. Thanks lots. Mary ellen@airmail.net Descendants of Joe Marion Crabb 1 Joe Marion Crabb b: October 06, 1882 in Yell Co. Ar d: November 16, 1971 in Carlsbad, NM . +Rosa Ann Horne b: October 16, 1882 in Yell Co. Ar d: June 09, 1963 in Carlsbad, NM m: December 01, 1901 in Yell Co. Ar Father: Thomas Marion Horne Mother: Sarah E Mc Clure .. 2 Rosie L. Crabb b: 1904 in Ok d: Bef. 1994 ...... +John Chaplin Chaps Henley b: 1910 d: April 15, 1945 in Red Bluff Lake, Reeves Co. Tx. m: Abt. 1925 .. 2 Jesse L. Crabb b: April 18, 1905 in Ar. d: Bet. 1925 - 1926 ...... +Hazel ? .. 2 Alma Dovie Crabb b: October 05, 1905 in Danville, Ar., Yell Co. d: November 18, 1986 in Hospital in Carlsbad, NM .. 2 Tollie Willis Crabb b: August 19, 1907 in Walnut Tree, Ar Yell Co d: April 26, 1982 in Carlsbad, NM Eddy Co ...... +Lucille Delorus Ridgeway b: May 31, 1905 in Walnut Ridge, Ar., Lawrence Co. d: November 26, 1990 in Carlsbad, NM., Eddy Co. m: August 16, 1924 in Ft Smith, Ar., Sebastian Co. Father: Robert Lee Ridgeway Mother: Cora Belle Israel .. 2 Jody Marion Crabb b: 1909 in Ok d: April 15, 1945 in Red Bluff, Tx. Reeves Co. ...... +Elizabeth Taylor b: November 13, 1912 in Gans, OK d: May 05, 1999 in Wyoming Medical Center, Casper, WYO m: August 21, 1933 in Sallisaw, Ok Father: Lum Taylor Mother: Kittie Kidd .. 2 Archibald Anderson Crabb b: October 05, 1911 in Sallisaw, Ok., Sequoyah d: August 12, 1973 in Farwell, Tx., Parmer Co. OR Las Vegas, NM., San Miguel Co. ...... +Grace Thelma Bradley b: January 16, 1916 in Antlers, Ok., Pushmataha Co. d: November 12, 1977 in Albuquerque, NM., Bernalillo Co. m: Abt. 1934 in Carlsbad, NM., Eddy Co. .. 2 Jerry Donald Crabb b: 1918 in Ok. d: 1987 ******What happened to Jerry Donald?? .. 2 Claude M. Crabb b: April 04, 1919 in Salasaw, Ok., Sequoia Co. d: November 1980 in Lincoln, Or., LIncoln Co. ...... +Murriel Effort m: Abt. 1940 **** Claude Martin CRABB was living Carlsbad, NM 1938. Can anyone help with this family?? .. 2 Bessie Louise Crabb b: February 16, 1921 in Salislaw, Ok ...... +Arthur Spencer b: October 07, 1918 in Lake Arthur near Carlsbad, NM. d: May 07, 1992 in Illinois m: April 20, 1939 in Carlsbad, NM., Eddy Co. Father: George R. Spencer Mother: Rosa Lee Hardesty

I am looking for Mary Jane Gee.Any relation to this line? Regards, Loretta

Jim, I'm also doing some research on this family.I was married to the Mangum side.I was married to Maggie and John Mangums grandson.We are divorced now but I have two sons that are Mangums,later on they might want to know who came from where. I was wanting confirmation that Jacobs wife was a Gee.I was told that it was.Thanks for clearing that up.If you can get into any census,I know that they lived in the Dutch Creek Township in Yell County.I can't get into the 1870 census yet,but in the 1880's Jacob was living with his parents.His father has initials for his name,I cant make them out might be a G.I.he was 6o ,mothers looks like a K could be an R.she was 59,I think .Looks like he was born in Tenn.and her NY.I hate it when they just put initials on those census.I guess they didn't realize how beneficial they would be later on for people. Maggie and John are buried at Whitesboro,Ok in Leflore Co. They have two sons still living.I realize that you posted your message some time ago,if you have found out anything on Jacobs or Marys family please let me know. Regards, Loretta

I am looking for info on Maggies family.They lived in the Dutch Creek township.Maggies father was Jacob I.Sanders born in 1860,her mother was Mary J.born in 1864. Their children were; William Rachel V.or U. Paul Margret(Maggie) In the 1900 census it says that there had been 8 births,only 4 living. Thanks, Loretta