Dale, Thank you so much, your Census records give me clues. Never would have thought to look for him in OK. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Marr" <marrdye@sbcglobal.net> To: <ARSHARP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [ARSHARP] Re: Estes ? - Dale