Gina, I have a John W. Manes son of Lucy Shipman Manes, is this your family or family of the one Seeking Descendant of John Wesley Manes - can you help? Dated: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:39:00 -0500 Is this your family Gina would love to share some information if you have any on Lucy Shipman's parents. Janie Your Ginaburningsky@aol.com comes back undelivered.