Janie, I also have the death date as Mar. 27, 1893, but can't verify it. Also, I have his 2nd wife as Eliza Redmon, there again can't verify it. Possibly I am wrong. I have an Isaac Penson Shipman m. Mary Lucinda Bratton. Kinsey ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.