I am sure there is some very good info on this web site, but like so many websites there is little or no documentation to back it up. In at least a couple of my family lines there is definitely some "extremely iffy" family history. It certainly cannot be backed up with proof and census records do not support it. Guess what I am saying is that we all need to do our our checking before we accept something as facts. Judy

Yep, I have some stuff there. _http://www.arfamilies.info/afamsearcyjnicholsmur.htm_ (http://www.arfamilies.info/afamsearcyjnicholsmur.htm) dewaynetreat@yahoo.com writes: http://www.arfamilies.info/affamsearcy.htm I don't believe I have seen this before? Anyone familiar with it??? Interesting. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

_http://www.rootsweb.com/~arboone/crawf.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arboone/crawf.html) I see a Morgan listed, but not George. Anyhow , I'll call Ronny and getcha some good directions, it's been a long dang time since I've been there. I'm going to Pindall the first week in June myself. Who in the family do you think took care of the burial business for George. For my Great Granpa Wm, it was my Granpa Charley even tho it was his father inlaw and he (Charley) always rather go to Marshall than Harrison any day. I think he got a kick going over the Buffalo River??? Laurie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Yes he went by Morgan Shipman, I think several of his kids are buried there. Janie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Donutgirl4@aol.com> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > _http://www.rootsweb.com/~arboone/crawf.html_ > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arboone/crawf.html) > > I see a Morgan listed, but not George. Anyhow , I'll call Ronny and > getcha > some good directions, it's been a long dang time since I've been there. > I'm going to Pindall the first week in June myself. > Who in the family do you think took care of the burial business for > George. > For my Great Granpa Wm, it was my Granpa Charley even tho it was his > father > inlaw and he (Charley) always rather go to Marshall than Harrison any > day. I > think he got a kick going over the Buffalo River??? > Laurie > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I know whatcha mean .. my great grandfather Wm. Orr had his land patent in Boone Co, but he was living in Newton Co. with some of his kids when he died. My cousin tried to get his death certificate from Newton Co and I tried Boone Co. and we both are empty handed. So my next move is to try Searcy Co. and if I were you, I would try there instead of Marion Co.. Crawford is in Boone Co., but just BARELY!! I've been there. It's back off on a side road before you get to Everton and you can't see it from the highway. I have a cousin that lives around the bend from Crawford Cemetery, we could probably hit it with a rock from his house .. I could try to reach him if you're wanting a picture or something, let me know. Warm regards, Laurie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Don't think he was and for those year he was living in TN and I don't remember seeing his name on any list. but will check again. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "dewayne treat" <dewaynetreat@yahoo.com> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > Janie, > Was Morgan in civil war??? appears the right age? If so, civil war > pension records can sometimes add a lot..especially, if they were Union > vets..... > > Janie <j.wagnon@cox.net> wrote: > You are so very nice and I may call upon you for a picture, but hopefully > I > will be able to make a trip the first of June and may email for some > directions to the cemetery while in route to Marshall through Harrison. > However, I will try Searcy County for his death certificate, although he > is > not in the index. George Morgan is the only one of the three brothers that > lived long enough to possibly have a death certificate and hopefully some > evidence of who his mother was. Will keep trying. > Thanks > Janie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > > >>I know whatcha mean .. my great grandfather Wm. Orr had his land patent in >> Boone Co, but he was living in Newton Co. with some of his kids when he >> died. >> My cousin tried to get his death certificate from Newton Co and I tried >> Boone Co. and we both are empty handed. So my next move is to try Searcy >> Co. and >> if I were you, I would try there instead of Marion Co.. >> Crawford is in Boone Co., but just BARELY!! I've been there. It's back >> off on a side road before you get to Everton and you can't see it from >> the >> highway. I have a cousin that lives around the bend from Crawford >> Cemetery, we >> could probably hit it with a rock from his house .. I could try to reach >> him >> if you're wanting a picture or something, let me know. >> Warm regards, Laurie >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are so very nice and I may call upon you for a picture, but hopefully I will be able to make a trip the first of June and may email for some directions to the cemetery while in route to Marshall through Harrison. However, I will try Searcy County for his death certificate, although he is not in the index. George Morgan is the only one of the three brothers that lived long enough to possibly have a death certificate and hopefully some evidence of who his mother was. Will keep trying. Thanks Janie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Donutgirl4@aol.com> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death >I know whatcha mean .. my great grandfather Wm. Orr had his land patent in > Boone Co, but he was living in Newton Co. with some of his kids when he > died. > My cousin tried to get his death certificate from Newton Co and I tried > Boone Co. and we both are empty handed. So my next move is to try Searcy > Co. and > if I were you, I would try there instead of Marion Co.. > Crawford is in Boone Co., but just BARELY!! I've been there. It's back > off on a side road before you get to Everton and you can't see it from > the > highway. I have a cousin that lives around the bend from Crawford > Cemetery, we > could probably hit it with a rock from his house .. I could try to reach > him > if you're wanting a picture or something, let me know. > Warm regards, Laurie > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.arfamilies.info/affamsearcy.htm I don't believe I have seen this before? Anyone familiar with it??? Interesting. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Hi Janie, Since there is also that other Shipman who died in the same county the day before, I wonder if they had a car accident. Or did they catch the beginning of the 'flu epidemic -- but I thought that would be more 1918 and 1919. Good luck finding out more! - Heather http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Thu, 10 May 2007, Janie wrote: > Thanks Heather, > I saw that when I first sent for his death certificate, but since Morgan was > living in Prairie, Boone county and buried in Boone county, with a different > death date on tombstone I don't think that was him, but may send for that > certificate just to make sure. I wonder if it is possible that there is a > death certificate on record and the death not indexed, probably not. > Everyone's help deeply appreciated > Janie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "heather e blair" <h431@uchicago.edu> > To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > > >> Ancestry.com has the Arkansas death index 1914-1950. Itsays that there's >> a George Shipman who died 21 Mar 1917 in Garland County. There's also >> a Marthie Shipman who died the day before. >> >> Garland county isn't very close to Searcy or Boone, though. >> >> - Heather >> >> http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ >> >> >> >> On Thu, 10 May 2007, Janie wrote: >> >>> Dewayne and others: >>> I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. >>> His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct >>> 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I >>> sent >>> for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for >>> Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. >>> Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? >>> Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? >>> Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. >>> Thanks >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Janie, Was Morgan in civil war??? appears the right age? If so, civil war pension records can sometimes add a lot..especially, if they were Union vets..... Janie <j.wagnon@cox.net> wrote: You are so very nice and I may call upon you for a picture, but hopefully I will be able to make a trip the first of June and may email for some directions to the cemetery while in route to Marshall through Harrison. However, I will try Searcy County for his death certificate, although he is not in the index. George Morgan is the only one of the three brothers that lived long enough to possibly have a death certificate and hopefully some evidence of who his mother was. Will keep trying. Thanks Janie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death >I know whatcha mean .. my great grandfather Wm. Orr had his land patent in > Boone Co, but he was living in Newton Co. with some of his kids when he > died. > My cousin tried to get his death certificate from Newton Co and I tried > Boone Co. and we both are empty handed. So my next move is to try Searcy > Co. and > if I were you, I would try there instead of Marion Co.. > Crawford is in Boone Co., but just BARELY!! I've been there. It's back > off on a side road before you get to Everton and you can't see it from > the > highway. I have a cousin that lives around the bend from Crawford > Cemetery, we > could probably hit it with a rock from his house .. I could try to reach > him > if you're wanting a picture or something, let me know. > Warm regards, Laurie > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

Thanks Heather, I saw that when I first sent for his death certificate, but since Morgan was living in Prairie, Boone county and buried in Boone county, with a different death date on tombstone I don't think that was him, but may send for that certificate just to make sure. I wonder if it is possible that there is a death certificate on record and the death not indexed, probably not. Everyone's help deeply appreciated Janie ----- Original Message ----- From: "heather e blair" <h431@uchicago.edu> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > Ancestry.com has the Arkansas death index 1914-1950. Itsays that there's > a George Shipman who died 21 Mar 1917 in Garland County. There's also > a Marthie Shipman who died the day before. > > Garland county isn't very close to Searcy or Boone, though. > > - Heather > > http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ > > > > On Thu, 10 May 2007, Janie wrote: > >> Dewayne and others: >> I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. >> His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct >> 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I >> sent >> for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for >> Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. >> Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? >> Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? >> Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. >> Thanks >> >>>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ancestry.com has the Arkansas death index 1914-1950. Itsays that there's a George Shipman who died 21 Mar 1917 in Garland County. There's also a Marthie Shipman who died the day before. Garland county isn't very close to Searcy or Boone, though. - Heather http://surgerysupport.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Thu, 10 May 2007, Janie wrote: > Dewayne and others: > I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. > His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct > 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I sent > for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for > Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. > Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? > Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? > Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. > Thanks > >>> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

tried that but found only that it may be in Everton, thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Bud Hendrix" <bhendrix1@cox.net> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > Crawford Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcemete/boone/boone.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janie" <j.wagnon@cox.net> > To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:28 AM > Subject: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > > >> Dewayne and others: >> I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. >> His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct >> 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I >> sent >> for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for >> Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. >> Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? >> Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? >> Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. >> Thanks >> >>>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Crawford Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~arcemete/boone/boone.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janie" <j.wagnon@cox.net> To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:28 AM Subject: [ARSEARCY] Morgan Shipman death > Dewayne and others: > I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. > His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct > 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I > sent > for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for > Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. > Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? > Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? > Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. > Thanks > >>> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dewayne and others: I need some input on how to find out what county someone died. His name is George Morgan Shipman born TN Jan 25, 1845 and death date Oct 12, 1917 on tombstone. He is buried Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR I sent for his death certificate, but nothing was found, and believe I ask for Boone Co., But maybe he died in another county such as Marion or Searcy. Does anyone know where Crawford Cemetery, Boone Co., AR is located? Didn't Arkansas keep death records as early as 1913? Maybe a cemetery record could be found for 1917. Thanks >>

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Sheryl, try Osage County Ok, or Pawhuska County OK, maybe. This is probably a long shot, but a LOT of people in Searcy County migrated to that part of OK for a while. I think this Manuel family is the one related to my Shipman/Ragland family. I know that Offie Manuel was married to Don Shipman (later than 1910 or so) and Nonie Belle Ragland was a Manuel by birth (or at least she was a Manuel before she married Cephus Ragland). Another thought: try the western counties of Arkansa--where Rogers and Siloam Springs are located. Beth Shipman "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beandipz Surnames: Manuel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.searcy/3576/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where the George Washington Manuel family was living in 1910? I've found them in 1870 and 1880 living Bear Creek, Searcy County and 1900 living in Big Creek. Can't find hide nor hair of the family in 1910 but they turn up in 1920 in Stonewall, Pontotoc Co., Oklahoma. Have read about 3/4 of the 1910 Searcy County census with no luck - same goes for Pontotoc County, OK. Did they get beamed back up to the Mothership in 1910 or maybe entered the Witness Protection Program? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated! You can reach me directly at panhandlekid@yahoo.com or beandipz@yahoo.com. Thank you!!! Sheryl H. OK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: beandipz Surnames: Manuel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.searcy/3576/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where the George Washington Manuel family was living in 1910? I've found them in 1870 and 1880 living Bear Creek, Searcy County and 1900 living in Big Creek. Can't find hide nor hair of the family in 1910 but they turn up in 1920 in Stonewall, Pontotoc Co., Oklahoma. Have read about 3/4 of the 1910 Searcy County census with no luck - same goes for Pontotoc County, OK. Did they get beamed back up to the Mothership in 1910 or maybe entered the Witness Protection Program? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated! You can reach me directly at panhandlekid@yahoo.com or beandipz@yahoo.com. Thank you!!! Sheryl H. OK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks and did!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.A. Bud Hendrix" <bhendrix1@cox.net> To: <arsearcy@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] New contact Janie > To subscribe to this list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janie" <j.wagnon@cox.net> > To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:10 AM > Subject: [ARSEARCY] New contact > > >>I have a new contact that wishes to be on the list. So if the coordinator >> will help me or tell me what to do. >> Her name is Shirley Rauth and her email is >> ShirleyRauth@clearwire.net. >> Janie >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To subscribe to this list, please send an email to ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janie" <j.wagnon@cox.net> To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: [ARSEARCY] New contact >I have a new contact that wishes to be on the list. So if the coordinator > will help me or tell me what to do. > Her name is Shirley Rauth and her email is ShirleyRauth@clearwire.net. > Janie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSEARCY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >