Last night was my last posting of stories. I do have more tapes and will try to get some transcribed. If so I will again share with the list if anyone interested. I want to thank everyone for all the nice comments they sent. I know grandma and grandpa are up there beaming and telling everyone about being posted to the list. There must be others out there with some good stories. I would love to hear them and I know others would also. I enjoyed the one about going to the grandparents for holidays and other visits. So please the rest of you contribute. Judy

This is just o say thanks to everyone who has provided me with information on the Adams family. A special thank you to Faye who posted to the list the information there was an Adams family Bible record and to James Johnson for locating it in a back issue of the "Exchange" and posting it to the list. It is people like this who help make genealogy fun and rewarding for all of us. Thanks again Judy

Mary Ellen and Toby Lonzo were married in 1905. They mostly lived in the Welcome Home Community although in the 1940's they moved to Witts Springs. But the events she is describing would have taken place when they lived at Welcome Home. I think it was probably the same for most all the families out on the mountain. They raised most everything they ate except for salt, sugar, soda to make biscuits and a few other spices and sometimes flour. Grandma said there was one time she did not go into Marshall for five years. Grandpa would take the team and wagon and go in once or twice a year to buy supplies. They raised corn and took it to the gristmill to have it ground into cornmeal. The charge for the grinding was a portion of the meal. No one had money to pay for that kind of services. It was the same for the crew of men who came around to thresh wheat or squeeze the juice out of the cane for molasses. They were paid so much of the yield. The was a peddlers wagon that was a "store on wheels" that came through that had a large variety of items for sale. In addition to food it had fabric for dresses and shirts, thread, ribbons and other kinds of "notions". The "peddler" as grandma called him also bought eggs and some other produce. Sometimes they had to pay cash but other times he would take the eggs or produce in trade. He had a regular route and they could usually know within a day when the peddler was going to come so they could save up things to sell. On a lighter note they had lots of fun also. There was church (mostly in the school house) every Sunday and usually family or neighbors came home with them for Sunday dinner. Brush arbor revivals in the summer. For the younger people there were parties and dances. By this time school was being held in the winter. There would be "sings" and spelling bees at the school where everyone young and old took part. This was when you could still homestead land and they had "house" raisings and "barn" raising so the family could "prove up" on the land. TRANSCRIPT OF TAPE MADE BY MARY ELLEN HARNESS HOLSTED Grandma, tell me about the things you raised. We know you raised chickens. You used chickens for their eggs and then you used them to eat, too. Oh yeah. Cook a big old fat hen, make dumplins oh that's good. Did you ever raise any other kind of animals-turkeys or geese I raised the geese and the ducks but I didn't cook em. What did you do with them? Throwed em away. No we didn't never kill none. What'd you raise em for then? We just sold them and the eggs-when we'd raise a big bunch like that we'd sell em. Where did you sell them A peddler came through and would buy em. The geese and the turkeys? The geese and the ducks? The geese and the ducks. Tell us what did you use their feathers on? That feather beds, feather pillers. Well, could you pick their feathers without killin them. Oh, yeah. We'd catch em up and pick em-they'd go "quack." Hold 'ere old heads under you arm and they'd bite cha while you're pickin them feathers-pull a handful and they'd go "quack" Did you ever try to cook a goose? Yeah Tried to cook a goose. Cooked it about a week. Threw it away-wadn't fit to eat. Well, Grandma, you just raised the geese for their feathers? Yeah. You can't pick geese in the wintertime. They'll freeze. You have to do it in the summer. (Yeah.) Did they did any of the feathers just drop out? Did you go through the yard and pick up dropped out feathers? Oh, no we'd catch them geese and put em in out lap, and put their head-old gander's head under your arm to keep from bitin' ya, and then he'd just bite to beat the band. You'd have to get a kid to come around hold their head while you picked em. 'At's right and I ain't jokin there. What about the ducks? They'd bite too, but they wadn't as bad as geese. Did you ever eat any duck eggs? Duck eggs? Why they're as good as any egg you ever seen. They're big aren't they? Yeah, they're a good bigger than a hen egg. They're kind of brown speckeldy. What about guineas? Did you ever raise guineas? Yeah I raised a few. I never did raise too many guineas. Well, what did you raise them for? Oh, Lord, Why them there guineas is as good as a chicken. Talkin about their eggs. Did you raise them to eat the eggs, too.? Well, yeah we tried to sell the guinea eggs. They're just a little strong for what a hen egg is. But you can sell em? Yeah. Or you could use em for cookin? Oh, yeah, that's what I used in my cookin and I'd save eggs to sell, ya know. Are they good boiled? Yeah.

Is anyone familiar with Nancy Jones listed on page 893 of the 1860 Searcy Co census? Mary

At05:45 PM 29-06-00,Arlene Robinson wrote: > "Another memory he had about his grandpa's is that they always had a >smokehouse full of meat. Some laying, some stacked. Also he said his >grandpa used to make something called Hogshead which consisted of all unused >parts of the pig cut into small pieces, pressed together in a loaf type of >thing. I remember my grandmother making "HeadCheese", it is made from the hog's head. Quite a sight to a youngster to see a big ol hog's head in the stew pot boiling! I never developed a taste for it, however I don't remember any of it going to waste. kay

After reading Judy's transcripts of her grandpa, I was going back through some of my papers and found the following that I want to share with all of you. First a little background. My great grandparents were James Marion Brewer and Emeline Weeks on grandpas side (William Carroll Brewer), and William Francis Neel and Mary Matilda Hodges on grandmas side (Lula Elizabeth Neel).( Bill and Luler,as they were called by those that knew them,) were both born in Marshall. What follows is a recollection as told by grandmas sister Cora's son, to his daughter and is about grandma and grandpa Neel. "The family was very large. When dad died at age 45 Mom (Cora) was left with 11 children to raise alone. They were 7 or 8 kids all under the age of 8, and they were poor tenant farmers. Sometimes they'd be very low on food supplies so they'd all pile into their old hauling wagon and head for grandpa Neel's place to survive, more or less. They also did this at Christmas and other holidays. It would take several hours (all day I believe), but my dad and all the kids was so happy when they got to their grandparents place. He said they had so much fun playing with all the animals and running through the brush. They live in a hilly place. He was always intrigued when his grandpa Neel called his pigs in. He'd go out to the front yard, clap his hands around his mouth and yell S-U-U-U-U-W-E-E-E-E-e, S-U-U-U-W-E-E-E-eeeee and pigs would come flying down out of those hills from every which a way." "Another memory he had about his grandpa's is that they always had a smokehouse full of meat. Some laying, some stacked. Also he said his grandpa used to make something called Hogshead which consisted of all unused parts of the pig cut into small pieces, pressed together in a loaf type of thing. They would just cut some off and eat. He said being at grandpa Neel's was the happiest memory of his life. When they would leave for home their wagon would be loaded down with smoked meats, fresh vegetables, canned fruit, etc. He loved that trip" "He was the oldest boy and had to work hard in the fields. He started holding a plow at age 6 and he said he'd get so tired he'd fall asleep and his father would have to come and pull his hands from the plow because the horse would be pulling him along. He was only able to complete 4th grade as he had to help farm. A taste of early Searcy County life. For those familiar with the area the BLM records for the Neel home was 120 acres , Sec 31, Township 15-N, Range 16-W, Fract. Sect, N, 5th principal Meridian, Searcy Co. I was fortunate to be able to visit there in 1960 and it was still occupied by my great uncle and aunt Thomas Wesley and Taccoah (Parks) Neel. I believe they lived there until their deaths in 1970 and 1971. It may still be occupied by family. In 1960 they still drew the water from the well in the front yard, and used an outhouse. And it was definitely a "hilly place" Of course being young I wasn't into family history then. Wish I could go back and find the answers I'm looking for now. Anyone on the list know anyone from these families? Arlene Robinson

From: Marinda Holliman While the subject of Snowball and the sawmill is up, I have a question. In 1912 John T. Karns moved his family from Tennessee by train to set up a sawmill in Snowball. My grandfather James Hudson Allen came with him to help him. John was the nephew to James former wife Cynthia M. Karns Allen,who died before they came. Can any one tell me about this sawmill and the where abouts it was. I have been to Snowball and looked about a bit. Daddy( Frank K. Allen took me over there in 1972 to where the Allen family lived on what was then known as the Bert Israel place. I believe it may belong to the Kenny Campbell family now. Any way the saw mill was on the creek near by. I certianly appreicate anything you might be able to tell me about this saw mill or the Allen or Karns families. I do know that later the Karns moved to Marshall. John's son would be the late Luther Karns. Thanks, Marinda (Allen) HOlliman >From: "Lee Jackson" <adamana@cybertrails.com> >Reply-To: "Lee Jackson" <adamana@cybertrails.com> >To: ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ARSEARCY] Blanco, Arkansas >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:19:10 -0700 > >NatureSeveral people on the list have requested that I send them copies of >this article. I hope you enjoy it. > >(Taken from the History and Folklore of Searcy County, Arkansas, edited by >Mary Frances Harrell, Source Book #1, pub. New Leaf Press, Inc., Harrison, >Arkansas, 1977 p.104) > >BLANCO COMMUNITY, by Mae Nation Smith > >This small community of 300 people with a post office located about 1-1/2 >miles south of Snowball, is no longer inhabited as far as original >buildings are concerned. > >There was a grist mill, cotton gin, sawmill and shop owned by George >Washing Nations. He employed several men and it was a thriving business. >George Nations had moved from Witts Springs to Blanco. His youngest >daughter Mae was born in Witts Springs on August 1, 1898 and was three >years old when they moved; there were seven children, Mrs. Nations died >about the time Mae was three. > >A sister, Alice married a Mr. Ford, whose father was a preacher who >preached once a month. > >This was before the Civil War and carpetbaggers and men of unknown >character, who searched for young men to be forced into army service. >Alice's husband, Mr. Ford, had a dream -- the same dream three times. It >was like a warning that these men would come for him. He left home to hide >out and the characters showed up, searching for Mr. Ford, but did not find >him. > >There was a high bluff and three caves -- one large. When the Buffalo >River was "up" or flood stage, water would run out of this cave from >underground. Indian relics, large clay bowls used for grinding or making >bread in the caves were found there. > >There was a school house and church. The school moved to another part of >the community against the wishes and permission of some and the school was >called "Trick 'em" thereafter because of these circumstances. There were >seven or eight grades taught. Those who wanted to go higher went to >Western Grove, where Jim G. Ferguson was principal. Mae Nations Smith and >brother Lee Nations were pupils. Later Lee and Mae earned licenses and >taught school in 1915 in a tent at Blanco. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Note by Judy: According to Searcy County Source Book #1 edited by Mary Frances Harrell the Dinky Line served the HD Williams Cooperage Company and either directly or indirectly half the people in the county were employed by the Company. It made stave bolts, logs, cordwood, crossties and staves. (staves were used to make barrels, mostly for whiskey) . The entire railroad, ties and rails were taken out later. Most of the timber had been cut from the surrounding hills and prohibition severely limited the demand for barrels. There was also a company just called the "Export Company" that bought the timber and or lumber and shipped it out by rail. Remember all of this was done by hand saws and axes. No power tools of any kind out in the woods. This is a transcript of a cassette tape made February 1980 at Carnegie, Oklahoma. The tape was recorded primarily by Toby Lonzo Holsted who was 93 years old at the time. Questions are asked by Judy Holsted Oldziewski. Also in the background you will sometimes hear Mary Ellen Harness Holsted, his wife of 75 years, and Judy's mother, Fannie Sue Kelley Holsted. T. L. as he was usually known was born and raised in Searcy County Arkansas. Both TL's and Mary Ellen's ancestors were among the very early settlers in Searcy County. They came from Missouri and Tennessee in the 1820's to 1850's. Lemuel Holsted, TL's grandfather was listed in the 1840 census. His great grandfather Robert Adams is believed to be the first white man to settle in Searcy County coming about 1817. Mary Ellen's family came from Tennessee to Arkansas but orginally settled some distance from Searcy County. However they were in Searcy County by the 1850 census. Mary Ellen and TL lived near a community known as Welcome Home at the time the events in this tape took place. It was probably about 1910. Welcome Home is about 20 miles by road from Marshall which was the nearest town and county seat. The town of Leslie is nearby . Note: Anytime in this tape TL talks about the road he means the railroad which became known as the Dinky train. Prior to this tape Judy had asked TL about the first time he ever saw a car and a train and he had answered. When asked the first time he ever saw a plane he couldn't remember but then stated he remembered the first time he ever saw a big truck. The tape begins with TL saying the truck came and hauled timber out of that country where I lived. It hauled timber out of that country where I lived. We had a railroad to run out there in the country about 20 mile. They built a railroad to take it into Leslie, Arkansas. That was the town you know and they hauled a lot of timber in there. I remember the first time it (the big truck) come through there. I was working on the road. We saw that thing a coming. Of course we knew what it was. They told us what they was going to do. It would come through that day and it was going to haul timber. And it hauled a lot of timber out of there. They called it (the truck) old something or other. Old Monday, I believe that is what they called it. They hauled a lot of timber out of there. There was places of course they couldn't go with that truck and they used wagons and mules to haul this timber to where this truck could get to it. (Judy) They used the Dinky train to haul timber with too didn't they? (TL) Oh yes, they used the Dinky Train. (Mary Ellen in background) After they got the road built and the train track built they hauled on the Dinky Train. (TL) They built a road there. I helped build that road. I worked all winter there. I stayed in a big tent. Me and one man and one woman worked on the inside. We cooked for a hundred men. It just happened that was a bad winter and there was snow on the ground about half the time. I was glad to be in that tent. I worked in there all winter, about three months. (Judy) So you were cooking. (TL) We was a cooking and a washing dishes and cooking for a lot of people. I slept right between two big range stoves every night and I got up at three o'clock every morning and lit up the stoves, at three o'clock. We had to start at three. You see the men had to go to work at six. (Judy) Grandpa, how did you wake up? Did you have an alarm clock? (TL) No, I just got in the habit of waking up, you can do that. You can go to waking up at a certain time and you'll wake up. (Judy) Were Grandma and the kids just living in your house during this time? (TL) No they was living, Oh yes they was living--(Mary Ellen) We was living at home while you were off down there at work. (TL) We lived at the frog pond place then when I was doing all the work on the railroad, cooking there. (Judy) So they stayed there and you went off to work. (TL) yes. (Judy) How much did you get paid for that grandpa? (TL) I got 15 cents an hour, dollar and a half a day. (Judy) And all you could eat. (TL) Yes, that's what I got, a dollar and a half a day and we worked 10 hours. That was just 15 cents an hour and we was glad to get that. Finally I put my mules on the road. I had to hire a man to drive them. I put my mules on the road and I got I believe it was three dollars, three dollars for me and my mules, the whole thing. Of course I had to pay my hand out of it but I gave him a dollar a day to drive my mules. That's when I was working on the road. I wasn't in the kitchen then. I was on the road. They kinda learned I could dress up and do this kind of work. They put me on the back end of it to dress the road up, finish it you know. (Judy) What do you mean by dress it up? (TL) Level it up and get it in shape where they could get over it. (Judy) Were you putting gravel over it or what? No we just graded it. We done it all with mules and plows and slips. You don't know what a slip is do you? (Judy) I sure don't. (TL) Well it's a thing you load this dirt with, you usually hook the mules to it and you load this dirt on this thing and move it wherever you want it, dump it in different places. We built all that road. We didn't have nothing else but mules. Later though they got a grader in there, right on the tail end of it and finished it. We ought to have had a grader all the time and didn't have it. (TL) Mary, I can't hear what you are saying. (Judy) She's saying you moved down there eventually. (TL) Yes we finally moved on the road in a tent, stayed there. I guess we worked on that road six or eight months. (Mary Ellen) That's where we tore up the stove. (TL) Yes, we had an old cook stove. It had been sitting you know and we had cooked on it for years. As long as you just let it sit there it was doing all right. But when we moved we took that stove and when we moved it out of the wagon, when we moved it out of the wagon I believe it fell into 40 pieces. All them rods was rotted out and rusted out and it just tumbled. There we was, didn't have no way to cook. Well I had a heating stove and I got me what they call a drum, you put it up above your stove, hook it on to your pipe just above your stove and you can cook a few things in that. (Judy) Grandpa, where was this road, where did it go from and to, this road you were building? Where did it start, what town or where did it start? (TL) What's that ? (Judy) That road where did it start? (TL) It started at Leslie , Leslie, Arkansas.(Judy) Where did it go to? (TL) Back up in the mountains, right in the country where I lived. (Judy) Oh, it was built up in the mountains to bring the timber out. (TL) That was the purpose of the road, to haul that timber out. (Judy) Is that road still there? (TL) No they took it up. It's been took up several years. So that road was built just to haul that timber out.It went on out to 27 Hwy. (Judy) It went out to 27 Hwy. (TL) Right where we lived, yes, within a mile of where we lived. It was about a mile from where we lived. (Judy) I'll say. (TL) I helped do all of that. We thought we was making money overhanded you know, getting 15 cents an hour! (Judy) Did the tent house all the men or did they just live here and there? (TL) Some lived along the road, some walked quite a distance you know to the job. A lot of them lived right on the road. (Judy) In tents? (TL) In tents. We would have camps you know. Maybe there would be several tents right around in one place. We would have a camp there so we could work. (Judy) How often did you move the tents? (TL) We didn't move them but once. (Mary Ellen) We moved twice. (TL) We had to move a time or two when they were shooting them big hillsides off there with that dynamite. They would come and tell us to move out. We didn't move our tent but we would get back up in the woods when they was shooting, putting on them big shots you know. You could stand back . I would get way back when they was going to put them shots in . They just drilled it. They used black powder. You could stand back here and when they set them shots off you could just see that mountain move before you heard any report. It would just move. (Judy) Grandpa, how long was the road, about how many miles? (TL) About 20 miles, that railroad was about 20 miles long. (Judy) Was this a railroad or a road? (TL) It was a railroad, it came right up what we called little Red River. (Judy) That's what you were working on. (TL) Yes (Judy) The roadbed of the railroad. (TL) Yes. (Judy) Did you help lay any of the ties or just grade the road? (TL) I done some of the first that was done. I pulled stumps there for I guess three or four months. I had a stump puller. I couldn't tell you how you wound it up to pull these stumps. But what we had was an outfit we could hook on, we would hook on to a big stump out there, the biggest one we could find and put the machine on that one. Then reach out and get them as far as we could reach and just work one lever like that. After a while you could see that ground begin to bust and pull them stumps. It was a stump puller. (Judy) Did you ever lay any of the ties for the railroad or anything? Did you put down any of the rails? (TL) Oh yes, we done a lot of that, laying them ties. Done a lot of that kind of work. Helped build bridges you know. (Mary Ellen in background) Tore a mountain down and built a road. (TL) When we was building that road, up there to where I lived we just took the side of the mountain, moved right along up a creek, right along the side of the mountain. They throwed rocks over there in a man's field, an old widow woman's field. They had to go in there and powder them and blow them up with the powder. Bust them up and haul them out. Just ruined her field til they got the rocks off it. When they put out them big shots there it would move the road for a mile right up the creek there. You could see the whole side of the mountain pushed, pushed off. They used black powder. (Judy) They didn't use dynamite? (TL) No they used black powder. It come in cans, just about like a five gallon can. One time there they put out a shot and I didn't get far enough away. I ran off just about as far as from here to that house or a little further. I got behind a big rock. Boy, that jarred me! I like to get out of there, get away from there. There was a powder house right there, not far, they kept the powder in. I ran in there one time, time of a storm. I was working down there. I thinks to myself , if lightening strikes this thing you couldn't find enough of me to find out who it was. It rained and we had an electric storm but it didn't happen to bother us. (Judy) Was there anyone in there with you? No, just the powder. I was handling the plow once and I plowed up a whole bed of dynamite once. They used some dynamite on that after they got out on the hill a ways. They used some dynamite. (Judy) You were plowing on the road? (TL) Yes, we was plowing. What if we had hit that cap with that plow, no telling where I would have been. That was the fault of the man put the powder in. When them shots went off he ought to have known how many went off and he didn't tell us. We plowed up half a bushel of dynamite. Just say if that plow had hit that cap. (Judy) It would have been all over wouldn't it? (TL) It would have been all day with us. That would have been the end of it (Judy) What did they do with the dynamite you plowed up? Did somebody come and get it? (TL) Yes, just some of the hands. We told them where it was at and went down there, dug out all of it. I guess they got it all out. They had to. Had to get it out of there. That was about the first start of the work we done on the railroad. No, the first work I did was when I pulled stumps. No, the first work I done was I helped cut the right of way you see. Cut all that timber out. We just sawed those stumps off and then we pulled the stumps, pulled that out. (Fannie Sue) Did anybody buy those stumps and things for wood? Did they take them for wood or just haul them off or what? What did they finally do with them? (TL) Just drug them off the highway, (he means the right of way) off the railroad and left them. Just got them out of the way. They had to be destroyed, pulled out of the way. They wasn't fit for wood no how. (Fannie Sue) Did they finally burn that all up or did it just deteriorate? (TL) Just deteriorated, rotted. I guess a lot of them are laying there yet. (Fannie Sue) I wouldn't doubt it. (Judy) Grandpa, that timber you cut, did they sell it? (TL) No, they didn't sell it. They made ties. (Judy) Oh, they made ties out of that timber. (TL) They made ties out of that timber. We cut you know a lot of it. Of course they got a lot that wasn't on the road. They didn't get enough to build the road. (Judy) What kind of timber did they use to make the ties? (TL) Just anything for that railroad. Anything that would square up 7 x 8, 7 x 8 I believe it was, 7 x 9. That was the size of the ties. (Judy) It had to be 7 wide and 8 or 9 thick. How long were they, how many feet long? (TL) I think they were 8 foot for the railroad ties. (Judy) That's a pretty good piece of wood, 7 x 9 by 8 foot. (TL) But they knew that railroad wouldn't be there to long. They just used everything. Anything that would square up to what they wanted. That's what they used. They made bridges, they cut that timber off that highway (again he means right of way) or most of it to build their bridges with. See they had to build several bridges on that road getting out there. (Judy) Did you help in building those bridges and everything? (TL) Yes, I worked on all of it. (Judy) Now is this the same place you cooked? Did you cook during the winter and work on the road during the summer. (TL) Yes, it was the same railroad as we done all that cooking and washing dishes. We just had a big old vat. It was as long as from here to that stove there. We would just pile them dishes in there. We had a lot of hot water and we would just stir them up you know. We didn't wash them clean, we just got them to what they looked pretty good. Same way with the meat we cut up. They would back in there with four quarter of meat and just dump them at one end of the tent. We did all the cutting of that thing up and boiling it and fixing it for them to eat. It wasn't fit to eat but they eat it. (TL) And we used more apple butter than anything we had there to feed them men. It was a sight on earth at the apple butter we used in there. Why they done that I just don't know. Well they just liked it I guess. (Judy) Did you fix your own bread? Did you bake your own bread? (TL) That woman cooked our bread, me and her and another man but the bread they eat was loaf bread. It was hauled in there. I don't know where they baked it. (Judy) But you didn't bake bread for all the men, just for yourselves. (TL) When we got the all fed this woman would cook our meals and we would eat after we got shed of that bunch. (Judy) You didn't eat the same thing they did? (TL) No, we didn't eat the same grub they did. She cooked good stuff for us to eat. That beef, we didn't clean it up or wash it the way it ought to have been. (TL) I made coffee in two 10 gallon cans, sitting there on a big stove. (Judy) What did you do, just boil it? (TL) Yes, I'd pour about a gallon of coffee in one can then the other. Oh, I might not have put in a gallon but I made it pretty strong. (Judy) How did you strain it? (TL) Huh? (Judy) How did you strain it or did you just let the grounds go to the bottom? (Fannie Sue) Just let the grounds go to the bottom. (Judy) How did you strain the coffee? (TL) We didn't strain it I don't reckon. We just boiled it and they (the grounds) all went to the bottom. (Judy) They had a card or something. Tell me what they did with it. (TL) Are you ready for me to tell it? (Judy) I'm ready. (TL) You know on a job like that they fed these men you see that worked. Well you carried a meal card, what they called a meal card. They punched that card every day. Well every time you went to eat they punched your card and that's the way they had of keeping up with it. Well every day before you quit work. about six o'clock this man come through punching your day card. That showed how many hours you put in and it kept up with the work. They had to do that in order, that's the way they did do it. To keep up with the men's labor. How much labor they done and how many meals they eat. Them meals was all charged to them and they had to pay for them meals. (Judy) How much did the men working on the road get? You were getting 15 cents and hour. How much were the men getting? (TL) That's what they got. (Judy) They got the same thing. (TL) That's all they got, 15 cent an hour, that's what they got. They worked 10 hours. They didn't work no eight hours them days. (Judy) They worked six days a week? (TL) Yes. (Judy) Sunday's they got off ? (TL) They took Sundays off and that was the only day they took off . (Judy) How often did they get paid, every week? (TL) Every two weeks they paid, paid off every two weeks. (Judy) How did they pay you? (TL) Paid you with a check. (Judy) You got a check, not cash. Where did you go to cash the check? (TL) You could cash it anywhere, the stores, any town would cash them. That wasn't no problem at all to get the checks cashed. They was good. You could cash them anywhere. (Judy) What company was this? Do you remember the name of the company? (TL) It was the export company. What they called the export company. Bought up all that timber in there. (Judy) But you don't know the name that was on the check or anything like that. (TL) It went on the name of the export, the export company. (Judy) That's all they called it. (TL) That's what they called it. They bought up all the timber in that country. Bought everything that would square up a 2 x 4. Wasted a lot of good timber. (Judy) Did they get most of the timber out, did they cut most of the timber out? (TL) Yes they got all that was any good. They got most of the timber before they took the railroad out. END

James, as usual, THANK YOU again, for all of us Searcy Countian Researchers!!! That was a lot of work!! We appreciate you so much!! Faye ----- Original Message ----- From: James Johnston <johnston@ipa.net> To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 1:08 PM Subject: [ARSEARCY] Adams Bible > The last try didn't turn out the way it was supposed to. Sorry about > that. Let me try again. > > This is from the Abner Adams Bible, published in the October 1992 > "Searcy County Ancestor Information Exchange": > > MARRIAGES [page 1] > Abner Adams and > Mary L Parks was married > December the [2?] AD 1858 > > David I Horton and > Nancy E. Adams was maried > January the 24 AD 1875 > > BIRTHS [page 2] > Robert Adams was born > June the 9th AD 1793 > > Sintha Adams was born > October the 30th AD 1798 > > Elizabeth Adams was born > March the 15th AD 1814 > > Stacey Adams was born > March the 11th AD 1818 > > Matthew Adams was born > Oct the 17th AD 1820 > > Maranda J. Adams was born > Jan 30th AD 1822 > > Mary Adams was born > My the 20th AD 1825 > > Joseph Adams was born > May the 25th AD 1827 > > Esther Adams born > September the 2nd AD 1829 > > Sarah Adams was born > May the 11th AD 1831 > > Thomas Adams was born > March the 11th AD 1834 > > Robert Horton's Kids > Luie Sular Horton was Born > February 6, 1905 > Ura Elgie Horton was born > November 1, 1906 > BIRTHS [page 3] > Abner Adams was born > the first day of May AD 1837 > [Note: son of Robt & Synthia Adams] > > Mary L. Parks was born > September the 24th 1836 > > Children of Abner & Mary L. Parks Adams: > Robert Gibson Adams was born > May the 24th AD 1860 > > Nancy Lizabeth Adams was born > August the 4th AD 1862 > > Sintha Anis Adams was born > August the 27th AD 1864 > > John Mathew Adams was born > february the 5th AD 1868 > > Children of David I & Nancy E. Adams Horton: > Mary A. J. Horton was born > December the 5 AD 1878 > > L. N. Horton was born > April the 10 AD 1881 > > James R. T. Horton was born > January the 15 AD 1885 > > Joseph A. Horton was born > July the 15 AD 1887 > > Isac J A [u?] Horton was bornd > July the 5 AD 1890 > > DEATHS [page 4] > Bud Horton died Oct 1, 1935 > > Ora Horton Died March 5, 1941 > Earnest Horton died July 13, 1941 > > Robert Gipson Adams Died > February the 7th AD 1862 > > Sintha Adams Died > July the first AD 1865 > > Robert Adams died > July 6, 1865 > > Saly nelly anise bell Horton was bornd > March the 31 AD 1893 > > Rosy Ananias Horton was bornd > January the 22 AD 1896 > > David J. Horton died > April the 1 AD 1899 > > parlee may horton > was bornd March 3 1898 > > parlee may horton died > June the 15 AD 1899 > > Vear Horton was Bornd > the 13 day february 1913 > > Nancy Horton died > June the 12, AD 1919 > > births > veda Horton was > Bornd June the 20 1913 > > Veda Horton was born > August 19, 1901 > > > [page 5] > William Cassell and > Nellie Horton was > married July 21, 19[0]9 > > [Veneda Cassell's note: Nancy E Adams was my grandmother. My > Grandmother's Dady owned a big Cattle Farm where Ft.Worth Texas is. He > was killed by the Indians when she was a little girl and was brought > back to Ark by some of the family. Hope this will help you. Veneda D > Cassell] > > JJJ >

The last try didn't turn out the way it was supposed to. Sorry about that. Let me try again. This is from the Abner Adams Bible, published in the October 1992 "Searcy County Ancestor Information Exchange": MARRIAGES [page 1] Abner Adams and Mary L Parks was married December the [2?] AD 1858 David I Horton and Nancy E. Adams was maried January the 24 AD 1875 BIRTHS [page 2] Robert Adams was born June the 9th AD 1793 Sintha Adams was born October the 30th AD 1798 Elizabeth Adams was born March the 15th AD 1814 Stacey Adams was born March the 11th AD 1818 Matthew Adams was born Oct the 17th AD 1820 Maranda J. Adams was born Jan 30th AD 1822 Mary Adams was born My the 20th AD 1825 Joseph Adams was born May the 25th AD 1827 Esther Adams born September the 2nd AD 1829 Sarah Adams was born May the 11th AD 1831 Thomas Adams was born March the 11th AD 1834 Robert Horton's Kids Luie Sular Horton was Born February 6, 1905 Ura Elgie Horton was born November 1, 1906 BIRTHS [page 3] Abner Adams was born the first day of May AD 1837 [Note: son of Robt & Synthia Adams] Mary L. Parks was born September the 24th 1836 Children of Abner & Mary L. Parks Adams: Robert Gibson Adams was born May the 24th AD 1860 Nancy Lizabeth Adams was born August the 4th AD 1862 Sintha Anis Adams was born August the 27th AD 1864 John Mathew Adams was born february the 5th AD 1868 Children of David I & Nancy E. Adams Horton: Mary A. J. Horton was born December the 5 AD 1878 L. N. Horton was born April the 10 AD 1881 James R. T. Horton was born January the 15 AD 1885 Joseph A. Horton was born July the 15 AD 1887 Isac J A [u?] Horton was bornd July the 5 AD 1890 DEATHS [page 4] Bud Horton died Oct 1, 1935 Ora Horton Died March 5, 1941 Earnest Horton died July 13, 1941 Robert Gipson Adams Died February the 7th AD 1862 Sintha Adams Died July the first AD 1865 Robert Adams died July 6, 1865 Saly nelly anise bell Horton was bornd March the 31 AD 1893 Rosy Ananias Horton was bornd January the 22 AD 1896 David J. Horton died April the 1 AD 1899 parlee may horton was bornd March 3 1898 parlee may horton died June the 15 AD 1899 Vear Horton was Bornd the 13 day february 1913 Nancy Horton died June the 12, AD 1919 births veda Horton was Bornd June the 20 1913 Veda Horton was born August 19, 1901 [page 5] William Cassell and Nellie Horton was married July 21, 19[0]9 [Veneda Cassell's note: Nancy E Adams was my grandmother. My Grandmother's Dady owned a big Cattle Farm where Ft.Worth Texas is. He was killed by the Indians when she was a little girl and was brought back to Ark by some of the family. Hope this will help you. Veneda D Cassell] JJJ

The following are excerpts from the family pages of the Abner Adams Bible, published in the October 1992 "Searcy County Ancestor Information Exchange". MARRIAGES [page 1] Abner Adams and David I Horton and Mary L Parks was married Nancy E. Adams was maried December the [2?] AD 1858 January the 24 AD 1875 BIRTHS [page 2] Robert Adams was born Joseph Adams was born June the 9th AD 1793 May the 25th AD 1827 Sintha Adams was born Esther Adams born October the 30th AD 1798 September the 2nd AD 1829 Elizabeth Adams was born Sarah Adams was born March the 15th AD 1814 May the 11th AD 1831 Stacey Adams was born Thomas Adams was born March the 11th AD 1818 March the 11th AD 1834 Matthew Adams was born Robert Horton's Kids Oct the 17th AD 1820 Luie Sular Horton was Born February 6, 1905 Maranda J. Adams was born Jan 30th AD 1822 Ura Elgie Horton was born November 1, 1906 Mary Adams was born My the 20th AD 1825 BIRTHS [page 3] Abner Adams was born Mary A. J. Horton was born the first day of May AD 1837 December the 5 AD 1878 Mary L. Parks was born L. N. Horton was born September the 24th 1836 April the 10 AD 1881 Robert Gibson Adams was born James R. T. Horton was born May the 24th AD 1860 January the 15 AD 1885 Nancy Lizabeth Adams was born Joseph A. Horton was born August the 4th AD 1862 July the 15 AD 1887 Sintha Anis Adams was born Isac J A [u?] Horton was bornd August the 27th AD 1864 July the 5 AD 1890 John Mathew Adams was born february the 5th AD 1868 DEATHS [page 4] Bud Horton died Oct 1, 1935 Ora Horton Died March 5, 1941 Earnest Horton died July 13, 1941 Robert Gipson Adams Died Sintha Adams Died February the 7th AD 1862 July the first AD 1865 Saly nelly anise bell Horton was bornd Robert Adams died March the 31 AD 1893 July 6, 1865 Rosy Ananias Horton was bornd David J. Horton died January the 22 AD 1896 April the 1 AD 1899 parlee may horton parlee may horton died was bornd March 3 1898 June the 15 AD 1899 Vear Horton was Bornd Nancy Horton died the 13 day february 1913 June the 12, AD 1919 births veda Horton was Veda Horton was born Bornd June the 20 1913 August 19, 1901 [page 5] William Cassell and Vera Cassell was born Nellie Horton was July 10, 1916 married July 21, 19[0]9 Veneda Cassell was born D J Cassell was born June the 11, 1910 June 28, 1919 Vena Cassell was born [Veneda Cassell's note: Nancy E Adams October 31, 19&12 was my grandmother. My Grandmother's Dady owned a big Cattle Farm where Ft.Worth Texas is. He was killed by the Indians when she was a little girl and was brought back to Ark by some of the family. Hope this will help you. Veneda D Cassell]

--part1_4c.773b709.268aff08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I forgot to put her death date down. I was told it was around 1917-1919. Again word of mouth only. Thanks Again, Theresa Rogers Griffiths --part1_4c.773b709.268aff08_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <TGRLACE@aol.com> From: TGRLACE@aol.com Full-name: TGRLACE Message-ID: <92.6bae208.268afdf4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:06:28 EDT Subject: LQQKING FOR HELP! Griffithville / Dogwood area info needed "Brick Wall" To: ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 110 Hello Everyone, My Grandparents and Ggrandparents are from this area. They are all buried in Dogwood Cemetery. I have been back and forth with Little Rock about getting death certificates for three of them. They tell me there is no death certificate for all three of them. Dogwood Church which sits on Dogwood Cemetery say they have know records. Without this info I am at a wall. Yes, I have been to the White Co, web site. Yes, Under Old Dogwood Cemetery two are listed there and yes I have been to Dogwood Cemetery myself. I was there for a funeral in March. No, I do not live in Arkansas my Mother was born there and some elders of the family are still there. The elders I did talk to when I was there can not remember or it was before there time. Below are the names I need info on. 1. Minnie Elzora Lane MATTHEWS She was the second wife to James P. ( Phillip ) MATTHEWS married in White Co., Ark. 1911 I was told. And her father signed for her he signed as W.H. LANE. She has no headstone at Dogwood elders said it crumbled away years ago I'm really stuck here! I was told they thought she or her father might of been from MO. Not sure. They say she was 14 or 15 when she got married. I was told she died at age 20 from the flu. This is word of mouth so give or take a few years. Her daughter ( my grandmother ) named at time of birth was Fannie ( Francis ) Elzora MATTHEWS. She married Johnny B. ROGERS in Feb 1932 in White County, Ark. My grandmother was born in Sept 3,1914. She was about 2 yrs old at the time of her Mothers death. This is why there is no info on her. James remarried and info was lost and never talked about back then. I am trying to find info on Minnie like where she was born at etc. And with no death certificate I have nothing at all to go on. 2. Otis S. ROGERS and wife ( Elizabeth ) Bettie B. Latture ROGERS Otis died 1940 headstone says and Bettie only says she was his wife and died 1902 age 32 years old. They don't have their death certificates either. My grandfather ( Johnny B. ROGERS ) was born Sept 3, 1912. Yes, same day as my grandmother. Please help I really need it. Maybe someone has books, or works for the courthouse. Maybe there death certificates are stuck at local level. I don't know what to think. It's not like they all died at t

Hello Everyone, My Grandparents and Ggrandparents are from this area. They are all buried in Dogwood Cemetery. I have been back and forth with Little Rock about getting death certificates for three of them. They tell me there is no death certificate for all three of them. Dogwood Church which sits on Dogwood Cemetery say they have know records. Without this info I am at a wall. Yes, I have been to the White Co, web site. Yes, Under Old Dogwood Cemetery two are listed there and yes I have been to Dogwood Cemetery myself. I was there for a funeral in March. No, I do not live in Arkansas my Mother was born there and some elders of the family are still there. The elders I did talk to when I was there can not remember or it was before there time. Below are the names I need info on. 1. Minnie Elzora Lane MATTHEWS She was the second wife to James P. ( Phillip ) MATTHEWS married in White Co., Ark. 1911 I was told. And her father signed for her he signed as W.H. LANE. She has no headstone at Dogwood elders said it crumbled away years ago I'm really stuck here! I was told they thought she or her father might of been from MO. Not sure. They say she was 14 or 15 when she got married. I was told she died at age 20 from the flu. This is word of mouth so give or take a few years. Her daughter ( my grandmother ) named at time of birth was Fannie ( Francis ) Elzora MATTHEWS. She married Johnny B. ROGERS in Feb 1932 in White County, Ark. My grandmother was born in Sept 3,1914. She was about 2 yrs old at the time of her Mothers death. This is why there is no info on her. James remarried and info was lost and never talked about back then. I am trying to find info on Minnie like where she was born at etc. And with no death certificate I have nothing at all to go on. 2. Otis S. ROGERS and wife ( Elizabeth ) Bettie B. Latture ROGERS Otis died 1940 headstone says and Bettie only says she was his wife and died 1902 age 32 years old. They don't have their death certificates either. My grandfather ( Johnny B. ROGERS ) was born Sept 3, 1912. Yes, same day as my grandmother. Please help I really need it. Maybe someone has books, or works for the courthouse. Maybe there death certificates are stuck at local level. I don't know what to think. It's not like they all died at the same year. Even marriage info I don't have that info either. That would even help I guess. I'm on some other List also for Ark but I thought getting close to the area might help me cause those of you who live in Searcy no just how small Dogwood and Griffithville is. And you no they don't have records there. Thank You all for taking the time to read this anyway. Thank You, Theresa Rogers Griffiths TGRLace@aol.com

Mary Birge wrote: > Hello Diana, > My day James Jackson Birge was also born in Witt Springs and yes it is in > Searcy County. My dad was born in 1908 and is passed on now. How old is > your dad? I am looking for anyone who might have known the Birges when they > lived there. > Mary > My Dad, James Robert Arms, was born Feb. 19, 1927 and died June 19, 1990 in OK. His Dad was Henry Steven Arms, born Oct 6, 1894 in Rea Valley, AR. He died Aug 1, 1933 in OK His Dad was Andrew Jackson (Jack) Arms, born1855, died on Feb 27, 1920. He (Andrew) was married to Mahala Melvina Hall, born on Nov 16, 1871, died Mar. 21, 1950 in Witt Springs Andrew's Dad was John Arms, thought to be born in Indiana and was a civil war veteran. That is about all I have for my Paternal grandfather's side of the family. If anyone has any other info regarding this family, I would greatly appreciate knowing it. Thanks. Diana

I am sure everyone on the list is aware that things were very bad in Searcy County both during and after the Civil war. It was one of those areas where one brother fought for the north and another for the south. The same with neighbors. Remember the "chain gang". The history books about Searcy County have stories about people who were killed for no real reason except they were on the wrong side or someone wanted the supplies and animals. This included women and old men who were not involved in the war in anyway. Soldiers from both sides became lawless as the war came to an end and they were going back home. There was no law of any kind, at least not in the country and they had the guns and usually traveled in groups so they could do about anything they chose. Also the Federal troops especially felt they were entitled to supply themselves from the countryside and so when a troop came through they took most of the animals they could find, cattle and sheep for eating and horses and mules to supply the Calvary. There were also men who were simply outlaws who preyed on the communities because all the men were off at war. My great, great grandmother Jane (Jennie) Renfroe Harness was a widow living alone with two small sons during the war. At night she would pin their night clothes to her nightgown so they could not get up at night and go outside without her knowing it. There was no lock on the door, just a wood bar across it and the boys were old enough to open it. She was afraid someone would abduct them if they were out by themselves. It apparently happened more than once. 12-23-73 Toby Lonzo Holsted Lon-To start with, the Civil War. My dad-his dad got killed in the Civil War and that was the Spring the peace was made, was when his daddy got killed. Who's this you're talking about now? About my grandfather. And what was his name? His name was Lemmie. What was his daddy's name? I wouldn't know. You don't know. I don't know. OK And the Spring the peace was made they run, he called em Jayhawkers, they run in on him-he was working in a shop, a blacksmith's shop, and they run in on him and killed him, so his dad had sent him over across the mountain to get some dogs to catch some wild hogs with and he heard them shootin and he went back down there to the house and his mother told him "Don't stop, just go right on to the mountains." He just run through the house, said they'd kill him if they knowed he was there (Judy note: Lemuel was actually killed in Feb 1865 by Federal troops, but at that time the Federal troops were often pretty lawless and not much better than the deserters who were coming through and the family may have thought they were jayhawkers. Miranda's pension application and a Civil War history both confirm it was Federal Troops) How did they kill his dad? Well, when he saw em a comin he was workin in a blacksmith's shop and he seen em before they got there and they was a little field out, about 4-5 acres they'd cleared up there and he run out across that field. He knew they's after him? Yeah, and they shot at him several times as he went across that field but he didn't get hit goin across the field at all. But they's two men run around the field and on the other side, and when he come out on the other side of the field, why there's where they killed him. Why did they kill him? Well, they killed a lot of people and I don't know why they did. Was it part of the War? It was the Northern people that come through there. After peace was made. He said they gathered up ever Cow and horse, everything they could get hold of and drove it back north. Just took it away from em. And he'd buried some money and they never did find any of it? Yeah, his dad had an estate in Missouri and his father had this estate and he went up there and got that, got is money. We never knowed how much it was. When he got back for that money he told his boys, some of em, to get him a hoe and put it by the gate out in the front yard. And they'd built a log house and didn't have the cracks lined up and some of them that night saw him go around the back-he'd made a-he had a kittle (kettle), iron kittle, and he'd made a cedar lid to fit right over this kittle, and some of em saw him goin around by the garden with a hoe on his shoulder carryn that iron kittle. That's as far as they ever knowed about where that money went. They know'd he buried it, and he had told his wife, my grandmother, several times, that he had somethin' to tell her, he wanted to tell her, but he was afraid to tell her. Do you know what her name was? Melindy, er wait, let me see-Mirandy. Miranda was Lemuel's wife? Wait a minute- Miranda was your grandmother? Yes, my grandmaw. And so the women tore up an old wagon box which they had a layin' out there, and made a casket and buried him. Wadn't a man on the place. Were they all of to war? Yes, they's all off to war. Course, peace was made that year, it was made in the spring of the year. But it wasn't made at that time? No. And they wadn't no men there. Wadn't no men 'round a'tall. And they tore up this old wagon box and made a casket and they dug his grave and buried him. How old was Lemuel about this time-Lemmie? I think he was 'round about 40 year old. Sump'n like that. Maybe 45. How old was your dad when this happened? He's 16 year old. He wadn't old enough to go into the army, ya see, so he just stayed home. Miranda was Lemuel's wife then? Yeah. That's right. She's the one who didn't know where the money was? Her name was Mirandy-that was my grandmother. That's right, so- What did they do they after he was killed? How did they make a crop? They had a little field back up the holler and they went up there and planted corn. Now these boys did that-they's three of em. My dad and two brothers, but I don't remember which one's what, and they up there and was hoein corn and they come back down, they talked it over and decided they's goin to starve to death. They come back down through by an old man by the name of Adams. Dad always called him Uncle Joe, Joe Adams, and he hollered at the boys and asked em why they was quittin. Said well they knowed it wasn't no use to work, they knowed that corn, they couldn't wait till that was growed, they decided they'd just go on, and the old man hollered at em and told them to go down there and get a sheep he had, an old black sheep, and kill it, butcher it, and eat it. And that's what they done, went back to the field, and went to hoein their corn. Something about eating buds off the trees, or something? He said he eat sassafras buds down-lot of people don't know what a sassafras is-but it's a little sprout that grows there in Arkansas, you know, and they eat this slippery elm bark, peel the rough part off, and eat the slippery elm bark and eat buds off bushes. That's what they lived on. And he said the first meal he got after they liked to starved to death, his mother took him to one of the neighbors once and had bear meat for dinner, and she was afraid he'd eat enough to kill him. Wouldn't let him eat all of it he wanted. I've heard him tell it so many times-it was the best meal he thought he ever eat, was that bear meat. Because he hadn't had any meat in such a long time? That's right. And them days they didn't have no salt to put in their food, even when they had meat, didn't had no salt. And they'd go in these old smoke houses where they had salted meat years ago and dig up that dirt and put it in the water and boil the water off and strain it through somethin and use that for salt. No salt 'cause of the War, was that what it was? They just run out of salt. Nobody didn't have no salt. Because of the War. Yeah, and I don't know why they run out of salt, but they did. There's no natural salt down in that area where??? No, not that I know of. How many kids were there in your dad's family? I guess they's 12 of them. Twelve children. How many brothers and sisters did your dad have? Well, there's Uncle Ab, Uncle Jim, and let me see, I forgot the other uns names. ???? There's 4 of em. There's several girls, wasn't there? Oh, yeah. Several girls. (Nancy, I think they called her.) That was Uncle John Horton's wife. He's the brother-in-law to my dad. Now this Adams that gave them the sheep, wasn't he the granddad- He was some relation to em He must have been maybe Miranda's dad or grandad, or somethin like that? I wouldn't know about that, but anyway he was some kin to the Holsteads and they called him Uncle Joe, (Judy's Note: This was Joe Adams , brother of Maranda). Uncle Joe Adams. I've heard Dad speak of him no tellin how many times. Call him Uncle Joe. Made the horseshoe nails for the Indians(?). No, it was my granddad that made the horseshoe nails. He had a blacksmith's shop, you know, and he made horseshoe nails. Lemmie Halstead, the one that got killed. Made horseshoe nails for the Indians-they could shoe their horses. I thought the Indians didn't shoe their horses? Had to down there in that rough country. He made horseshoe nails, I've heard him tell him tell it many times. So the Indians could shoe their horses. ----- The Jayhawkers my Dad called em. They come through there and drove everything out of the country as they went back to Missouri. Northern people. And that was all South down there-they all fought for the South? Yeah, they's fightin for the South. Well did your grandpa, Lemuel, he didn't go off to the war, he stayed there? He stayed at home. He never did to the army a'tall, but he got killed durin that time the (Judy's Note: Lemuel did actually serve in the Confederate Army but as a guerrilla or scout so he was probably home more than a regular infantry man would have been. He scouted in the area) Civil War was goin on. And Dad wasn't old enough to go, you see. Them Jayhawkers, he called them, they came through there and drove the cattle and everything they could get ahold of back to the North. Took em home with em. And just left them folks down there without anything. How did the sheep make it? Were they maybe back in the brush when they came through? Old man Adams had some sheep, were they back in the brush? He had several. This was one that he called an old weathers-sheep that had been tended to, they called them weathers. This was a black sheep that he told them to go get and butcher. So he just had a pasture there that he run em on. He told me durin that time, long about that time, his Dad sent him out there to drive the sheep in one evenin, stars fell just in showers. He could hear em hittin the leaves, just like showers of rain! He could see em falling. What year was this, Grandpa? About 1864-65? Somewhere along in there. I ought to know, but I don't. Well, it would be the end of the Civil War, anyway? The Civil War. She's the North fightin the South. They's fightin to free the negros, what it was ever bit about. See the negros them days, they sold em just like I would sell a horse or a cow. They just put em up and sold em to the highest bidder. And worked em and kept em. And the north wanted to free the niggers and the South didn't want us to free em and that's what it was about. That's what it was all about. Oh, they had an awful time then. How did they get involved? They ended up on the mountain up there-where was that, Grandpa? That was out about 5 miles west of Marshall, county seat, there was a place back there that was on Bear Creek. It's in the Boston mountains, right? Yeah, in the Boston Mountains, and there's a place there they call the Holsted holler-still goes by that name. That's where my Dad was raised, in that holler there. And they call it that yet. That's where they lived at that time? Yeah, and that's where he hid his money. Dad kind of thought one of his brothers got the money. Thought he knew where it was buried and went and got it? Yeah, he thought that Uncle Jim got the money 'cause he moved over there in Leslie, Arkansas, and got a lot of that good land over and just made money hand over. And he said he didn't believe he could have done it if he hadn't had some way to back him. It was in gold? Yeah, gold and silver. And they never did know how much it was, still they thought it was quite a bit of money that he buried. Dad went down there and hunted for it. He took a mineral rod, but they put up an old stavemill right there where they thought it was. (Notes by Judy. The story of the buried money has come down in serveral branches of the Holsted family. It is very possibly true because his father Lemuel Sr. was quite well to do back in St Francois County MO) Copyright 1999 by Judy Holsted Oldziewski

NatureSeveral people on the list have requested that I send them copies of this article. I hope you enjoy it. (Taken from the History and Folklore of Searcy County, Arkansas, edited by Mary Frances Harrell, Source Book #1, pub. New Leaf Press, Inc., Harrison, Arkansas, 1977 p.104) BLANCO COMMUNITY, by Mae Nation Smith This small community of 300 people with a post office located about 1-1/2 miles south of Snowball, is no longer inhabited as far as original buildings are concerned. There was a grist mill, cotton gin, sawmill and shop owned by George Washing Nations. He employed several men and it was a thriving business. George Nations had moved from Witts Springs to Blanco. His youngest daughter Mae was born in Witts Springs on August 1, 1898 and was three years old when they moved; there were seven children, Mrs. Nations died about the time Mae was three. A sister, Alice married a Mr. Ford, whose father was a preacher who preached once a month. This was before the Civil War and carpetbaggers and men of unknown character, who searched for young men to be forced into army service. Alice's husband, Mr. Ford, had a dream -- the same dream three times. It was like a warning that these men would come for him. He left home to hide out and the characters showed up, searching for Mr. Ford, but did not find him. There was a high bluff and three caves -- one large. When the Buffalo River was "up" or flood stage, water would run out of this cave from underground. Indian relics, large clay bowls used for grinding or making bread in the caves were found there. There was a school house and church. The school moved to another part of the community against the wishes and permission of some and the school was called "Trick 'em" thereafter because of these circumstances. There were seven or eight grades taught. Those who wanted to go higher went to Western Grove, where Jim G. Ferguson was principal. Mae Nations Smith and brother Lee Nations were pupils. Later Lee and Mae earned licenses and taught school in 1915 in a tent at Blanco.

Faye, do you have any idea which issue of Searcy Co Ancestor Exchange contains these Adams bible pages? Although HGSMCA has several years of this publication, no one around here seems to have any knowledge of an Adams bible. Maybe because the issues don't go back far enough? Even tho' they're "public record," "common knowledge" of them appears to be not so common up here in Marion Co. Thanks for sharing this helpful resource information with us. Now all we have to do is find it <grin> Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" ----- Original Message ----- From: thesandys <thesandys@email.msn.com> To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Adams - again > Let me say this to all interested parties of the Adams, since this EARLY > Arkansas Territory family has many descendants across America. I have no > known ties to the Adams Family of Izard, Fulton, Marion, Baxter, Searcy and > other North Arkansas Counties. Back in the old days...back in the 1980's > when there were a lot of us researching online (way before the internet left > the military and went public) I helped several researchers of early days try > to unscramble the Admas, Bakers, Hortons, and other Searcy County lines. I > also had an interest from the Adams family group up in Fulton/Izard county > thru my husbands people...the Wolfs of Northfork River fame are part of my > hands line and they too married the Adams up there. So we did a lot of > digging, and one of the family members made me a photocopy of the original > bible pages of Robert Adams and Synthia ?? (Cates). These pages were > printed in the Searcy County Exchange years back by James J. as well. There > doesn't seem to be a mention of the parents of Robert Adams. > I would prefer that James Johnston make a comment about these bible records. > Mine are of the original pages but, if it is not commonly known, then I > wonder if I have missed something over the years, while I was busy and > distracted from the Pioneer Adams of North Arkansas. Can anybody tell me > why the bible records of Robert and Synthia published in the Ancestors > Exchange are not of public record and common knowledge???? James are you out > there? > Faye in Tx. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Oldziewski <harness75@earthlink.net> > To: thesandys <thesandys@email.msn.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Adams - again > > > > thesandys wrote: > > > > > > I am somewhat lost in everybody's "Adams" dialogue. If comprising a book > or > > > a family history for a book (since most folks think if it's in a book, > it's > > > must be true) Or a newspaper or etc. etc. There's something about > something > > > being in > > > print that just makes us swear it's the gospel truth. > > > Why don't you use the Adams bible pages as reference for the births of > > > Matthew Adams children? I noticed you show Matthew and Miranda Adams as > > > both born in 1822, which they weren't. Miranda was born 30 January, > 1822, > > > while Matthew was born 17 October, 1820. Also, you show a girl named > Eliza > > > M. Adams born 1840, that I don't believe belongs, while you eleminated > both > > > Esther and Sarah Adams from the list of children. > > > Faye in Tx. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> > > > To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 5:50 PM > > > Subject: [ARSEARCY] Adams - again > > > > > > > Let me put it this way, Judy. In order to track nine 8X10 pages of > Adams' > > > genealogy for Big Blue, we used several sources and a ton of paper full > of > > > notes. Here's the list. > > > > > > > > "Descendants of James & Agnes (Wilson) Adams with 57 Allied Families" > by > > > Leona Adams Loviska. > > > > "White River Chronicles of S C Turnbo" by James F Keefe & Lynn Morrow. > > > > "History of Marion Co" by Earl Berry. > > > > "Marion Co Marriages Records 1887-1917" (3 volumes) by Marian Burnes & > > > Vicki Roberts. > > > > "Portraits and Landscapes" by Z B Smith (a collection of newspaper > > > articles) > > > > "Marion Co. AR 1890" by Helen McMindes (a reconstruction using 1880 + > 1900 > > > census & 1890 tax records). > > > > Robert J. Adams, 2741 Live Oak Ave, Fullerton CA 92635. > > > > Helen McMindes (she's recently moved from Harrison AR to CA so don't > yet > > > have her new address). > > > > MCAR 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910, 1920 federal > census. > > > > SCAR 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 federal census. > > > > "Pleasant Ridge Cemetery" by Max Parnell. > > > > And, of course, that wonderfully easy computer age capability . . . > Cross > > > Referencing. > > > > > > > > Exactly where each snippit of info came from, I can't say offhand. > It's > > > all in the archived Big Blue files, though <grin> Three huge boxes > stuffed > > > with enough paper to make a couple of huge trees! > > > > > > > > What we gleaned from all this is: > > > > > > > > Robert "Bob" Adams (son of James & Agnes [Wilson] Adams) b VA ca 1770 > d > > > Izard Co. AR March 1825 m/1 KY 19 March 1796 Patience Hall; m/2 KY 23 > May > > > 1804 Elizabeth "Betsy" Ferguson. In Lawrence Co. AR 1820. > > > > Children: > > > > Robert "Bob" & Patience had 2 kids. > > > > Robert "Bob" & "Betsy" had 5 kids including > > > > Robert Adams Jr. b KY 1808 m Izard Co. AR Martha Jane ___ 1807. He is > a > > > widower in North Fork Township, Izard Co. AR 1870. > > > > > > > > Matthew Adams (son of James & Agnes [Wilson] Adams) b VA 1767/8 d > Izard > > > Co. AR 1836 m/1 Esther Barnett; m/2 Christian Co KY Catherine Ferguson > d > > > Pope Co AR 29 Dec 1841. In Lawrence Co AR 1817. > > > > Children: > > > > Matthew & Esther had 5 kids - all girls. > > > > Matthew & Catherine had 3 sons including > > > > Robert Adams b KY 1794/9 d Independence Co AR 1865 m Cynthia Cates b > NC ca > > > 1798. In Tomahawk Township, Searcy Co AR 1840, 1850. In Bear Creek > > > Township, Searcy Co. AR 1860. > > > > Children: > > > > Stacy Adams b AR 1818 m Eli B Sooter. > > > > Miranda Adams b AR 30 Jan 1822. > > > > Matthew Adams b AR 1822. Single in SCAR 1870 living with sister Mary > > > Shaw. > > > > Joseph Adams b AR ca 1827 m Elvira Jane ___ b TN 1828. > > > > Mary Adams b AR ca 1825 m J D Shaw. In SCAR 1870. > > > > Thomas Adams b AR 1834 d bef 1870 m Emille Hodge (daughter of > Granville K > > > & Elizabeth [Campbell] Hodge) b McNairy Co TN. She m/2 James Holstead. > > > > Abner Adams b SCAR 1837/8 m Mary ___ b AR 1837. > > > > Eliza M Adams b AR 1840. > > > > > > > > The best I can do for PROOF is that Matthew (son of James & Agnes) > settled > > > in Searcy Co and was there from its inception in 1835 while Robert (son > of > > > James & Agnes) settled in Izard Co and his son Robert was still there in > > > 1870. Looks to me like they lived in different areas of Izard Co and > when > > > Searcy Co was created out of Izard, Matthew was in the Searcy Co part. > > > > > > > > Because Big Blue was essentially a Marion Co book on Marion Co > families, > > > we only tracked data that led to Marion Co. (Actually, we tracked in > both > > > directions - from Adamses in MCAR back and from James & Agnes forward.) > > > > > > > > Here, again, I'm probably duplicating data you already have, but this > is a > > > method of tracking Vicki and I use lots. > > > > > > > > SCAR 1860 Sulphur Springs Township: > > > > Joseph Adams 33 AR. > > > > Elvira 32 TN. > > > > Matthew 10 AR. > > > > Ervin David 12 AR. > > > > JAMES 7 AR. > > > > William 5 AR. > > > > George 2 AR. > > > > Elizabeth Bone 17 __. > > > > William 2 AR > > > > > > > > SCAR 1870 Bear Creek Township: > > > > Joseph Addams 43 AR. > > > > Elvira 42 TN. > > > > Martha [sic] 19 AR. > > > > JAMES 16 AR. > > > > William 14 AR. > > > > George 11 AR. > > > > Abner 4 AR. > > > > John 2 AR. > > > > > > > > SCAR 1880 Sulphur Springs Township: > > > > #28-29 Joseph Addams 57 AR NC KY. > > > > Elvira J 52 TN GA TN. > > > > Abner 14 AR AR TN. > > > > John W 12 AR AR TN. > > > > William G 23 AR AR TN (son). > > > > Georgia 18 AR AR AR (d-in-l). > > > > > > > > #16-17 Amos Treadwell 56 TN NC NC. > > > > Siles R 23 AR TN TN (son). > > > > Mary 22 AR MO TN (d-in-l). > > > > Victory J. 2 AR AR AR (g-dau). > > > > Margaret R 11/12 AR AR AR (g-dau). > > > > JAMES M Addems 26 AR AR TN (s-in-l). > > > > Margaret C [Treadwell] 26 AR AR TN (wife). > > > > Joseph L 5 AR AR AR (son). > > > > Sarah E 3 AR AR AR (dau). > > > > John Q 1 AR AR AR (son). > > > > > > > > Tracking this family - dates, birth places, townships, names - > indicates > > > to me that James M Addams (consistent spelling variant not used with > other > > > families of the same surname) was the son of Joseph & Elvira and the > husband > > > of Margaret C Treadwell. The "M" could well stand for "Marion." > Whether > > > you call this proof or deduction, I'm not real sure. Obviously the > James > > > Newton Adams is out of the running - wrong middle name/initial. And the > > > fact that James' father's brother's widow married second James Wilson > > > Holstead lends credence since they all ended up in the same place. > > > > > > > > Hope you can figure out all this stuff. And that it helps. > > > > > > > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > > > > "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" > > > > > > > > > > Faye > > > > I am a descendant of Robert Adams through his daughter Maranda who > > married Lemuel Holsted. In my family we were told Matthew and Maranda > > were twins. This came from my grandfather who was the grandson of > > Maranda. Also in the 1850 census Matthew is listed as age 28 which tends > > to confirm the twins bit. > > > > I never heard of an Eliza before and I agree she probably does not > > belong there. > > > > Now most important of all where did you get a copy of Adams Bible pages. > > I have never heard of them. This is wonderful news!! Most of what I have > > managed to put together has come from oral family history and/or census > > which we all know census can be very misleading. I would love to have > > any records you have on the Robert Adams family. I am definitely open to > > correcting my records. I don't mind being shown I am wrong. I don't want > > to use or pass on misleading infomation. > > > > I actually started the posting on the Adams family trying to get > > straight on who James (son of Joseph and grandson of Robert married). > > Two people were giving me wildly different info and I wanted to know > > which was correct. I try to never guess or assume. I want facts. I also > > have been searching for years to confirm that Matthew and Esther were > > the parents of Robert (Searcy County about 1817). Again the > > circumstantial evidence is strong but I want proof if at all possible so > > I have never listed Matthew as Robert's father without qualifying it as > > being without proof. I appear to be the only holdout on this. > > > > Do the Bible records show the parents of Robert and Cinthia? It would be > > wonderful news if they do. As to Sarah I have been told but have not > > been able to prove that a Sallie (nickname for Sarah) born 1826 married > > King Chandler. Does this match the Bible records? The same person who > > told me about Sallie also said there was a William born about 1815. He > > apparently died young if there was such a person. I never heard of an > > Esther but it fits if Matthew and Esther are the parent of Robert. > > > > Sorry this is so long but I am so excited at the thought that there are > > actual Bible records to clear up some of the confusion. Do you have a > > copy of the actual record? I would love to have a copy and will send > > money to pay for the copying and postage. Any info you can provide much > > appreciated and I will share all the info I have if you are interested. > > > > Judy > >

Let me say this to all interested parties of the Adams, since this EARLY Arkansas Territory family has many descendants across America. I have no known ties to the Adams Family of Izard, Fulton, Marion, Baxter, Searcy and other North Arkansas Counties. Back in the old days...back in the 1980's when there were a lot of us researching online (way before the internet left the military and went public) I helped several researchers of early days try to unscramble the Admas, Bakers, Hortons, and other Searcy County lines. I also had an interest from the Adams family group up in Fulton/Izard county thru my husbands people...the Wolfs of Northfork River fame are part of my hands line and they too married the Adams up there. So we did a lot of digging, and one of the family members made me a photocopy of the original bible pages of Robert Adams and Synthia ?? (Cates). These pages were printed in the Searcy County Exchange years back by James J. as well. There doesn't seem to be a mention of the parents of Robert Adams. I would prefer that James Johnston make a comment about these bible records. Mine are of the original pages but, if it is not commonly known, then I wonder if I have missed something over the years, while I was busy and distracted from the Pioneer Adams of North Arkansas. Can anybody tell me why the bible records of Robert and Synthia published in the Ancestors Exchange are not of public record and common knowledge???? James are you out there? Faye in Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Oldziewski <harness75@earthlink.net> To: thesandys <thesandys@email.msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] Adams - again > thesandys wrote: > > > > I am somewhat lost in everybody's "Adams" dialogue. If comprising a book or > > a family history for a book (since most folks think if it's in a book, it's > > must be true) Or a newspaper or etc. etc. There's something about something > > being in > > print that just makes us swear it's the gospel truth. > > Why don't you use the Adams bible pages as reference for the births of > > Matthew Adams children? I noticed you show Matthew and Miranda Adams as > > both born in 1822, which they weren't. Miranda was born 30 January, 1822, > > while Matthew was born 17 October, 1820. Also, you show a girl named Eliza > > M. Adams born 1840, that I don't believe belongs, while you eleminated both > > Esther and Sarah Adams from the list of children. > > Faye in Tx. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mysty McPherson <shakerag@mtnhome.com> > > To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 5:50 PM > > Subject: [ARSEARCY] Adams - again > > > > > Let me put it this way, Judy. In order to track nine 8X10 pages of Adams' > > genealogy for Big Blue, we used several sources and a ton of paper full of > > notes. Here's the list. > > > > > > "Descendants of James & Agnes (Wilson) Adams with 57 Allied Families" by > > Leona Adams Loviska. > > > "White River Chronicles of S C Turnbo" by James F Keefe & Lynn Morrow. > > > "History of Marion Co" by Earl Berry. > > > "Marion Co Marriages Records 1887-1917" (3 volumes) by Marian Burnes & > > Vicki Roberts. > > > "Portraits and Landscapes" by Z B Smith (a collection of newspaper > > articles) > > > "Marion Co. AR 1890" by Helen McMindes (a reconstruction using 1880 + 1900 > > census & 1890 tax records). > > > Robert J. Adams, 2741 Live Oak Ave, Fullerton CA 92635. > > > Helen McMindes (she's recently moved from Harrison AR to CA so don't yet > > have her new address). > > > MCAR 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900, 1910, 1920 federal census. > > > SCAR 1840, 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 federal census. > > > "Pleasant Ridge Cemetery" by Max Parnell. > > > And, of course, that wonderfully easy computer age capability . . . Cross > > Referencing. > > > > > > Exactly where each snippit of info came from, I can't say offhand. It's > > all in the archived Big Blue files, though <grin> Three huge boxes stuffed > > with enough paper to make a couple of huge trees! > > > > > > What we gleaned from all this is: > > > > > > Robert "Bob" Adams (son of James & Agnes [Wilson] Adams) b VA ca 1770 d > > Izard Co. AR March 1825 m/1 KY 19 March 1796 Patience Hall; m/2 KY 23 May > > 1804 Elizabeth "Betsy" Ferguson. In Lawrence Co. AR 1820. > > > Children: > > > Robert "Bob" & Patience had 2 kids. > > > Robert "Bob" & "Betsy" had 5 kids including > > > Robert Adams Jr. b KY 1808 m Izard Co. AR Martha Jane ___ 1807. He is a > > widower in North Fork Township, Izard Co. AR 1870. > > > > > > Matthew Adams (son of James & Agnes [Wilson] Adams) b VA 1767/8 d Izard > > Co. AR 1836 m/1 Esther Barnett; m/2 Christian Co KY Catherine Ferguson d > > Pope Co AR 29 Dec 1841. In Lawrence Co AR 1817. > > > Children: > > > Matthew & Esther had 5 kids - all girls. > > > Matthew & Catherine had 3 sons including > > > Robert Adams b KY 1794/9 d Independence Co AR 1865 m Cynthia Cates b NC ca > > 1798. In Tomahawk Township, Searcy Co AR 1840, 1850. In Bear Creek > > Township, Searcy Co. AR 1860. > > > Children: > > > Stacy Adams b AR 1818 m Eli B Sooter. > > > Miranda Adams b AR 30 Jan 1822. > > > Matthew Adams b AR 1822. Single in SCAR 1870 living with sister Mary > > Shaw. > > > Joseph Adams b AR ca 1827 m Elvira Jane ___ b TN 1828. > > > Mary Adams b AR ca 1825 m J D Shaw. In SCAR 1870. > > > Thomas Adams b AR 1834 d bef 1870 m Emille Hodge (daughter of Granville K > > & Elizabeth [Campbell] Hodge) b McNairy Co TN. She m/2 James Holstead. > > > Abner Adams b SCAR 1837/8 m Mary ___ b AR 1837. > > > Eliza M Adams b AR 1840. > > > > > > The best I can do for PROOF is that Matthew (son of James & Agnes) settled > > in Searcy Co and was there from its inception in 1835 while Robert (son of > > James & Agnes) settled in Izard Co and his son Robert was still there in > > 1870. Looks to me like they lived in different areas of Izard Co and when > > Searcy Co was created out of Izard, Matthew was in the Searcy Co part. > > > > > > Because Big Blue was essentially a Marion Co book on Marion Co families, > > we only tracked data that led to Marion Co. (Actually, we tracked in both > > directions - from Adamses in MCAR back and from James & Agnes forward.) > > > > > > Here, again, I'm probably duplicating data you already have, but this is a > > method of tracking Vicki and I use lots. > > > > > > SCAR 1860 Sulphur Springs Township: > > > Joseph Adams 33 AR. > > > Elvira 32 TN. > > > Matthew 10 AR. > > > Ervin David 12 AR. > > > JAMES 7 AR. > > > William 5 AR. > > > George 2 AR. > > > Elizabeth Bone 17 __. > > > William 2 AR > > > > > > SCAR 1870 Bear Creek Township: > > > Joseph Addams 43 AR. > > > Elvira 42 TN. > > > Martha [sic] 19 AR. > > > JAMES 16 AR. > > > William 14 AR. > > > George 11 AR. > > > Abner 4 AR. > > > John 2 AR. > > > > > > SCAR 1880 Sulphur Springs Township: > > > #28-29 Joseph Addams 57 AR NC KY. > > > Elvira J 52 TN GA TN. > > > Abner 14 AR AR TN. > > > John W 12 AR AR TN. > > > William G 23 AR AR TN (son). > > > Georgia 18 AR AR AR (d-in-l). > > > > > > #16-17 Amos Treadwell 56 TN NC NC. > > > Siles R 23 AR TN TN (son). > > > Mary 22 AR MO TN (d-in-l). > > > Victory J. 2 AR AR AR (g-dau). > > > Margaret R 11/12 AR AR AR (g-dau). > > > JAMES M Addems 26 AR AR TN (s-in-l). > > > Margaret C [Treadwell] 26 AR AR TN (wife). > > > Joseph L 5 AR AR AR (son). > > > Sarah E 3 AR AR AR (dau). > > > John Q 1 AR AR AR (son). > > > > > > Tracking this family - dates, birth places, townships, names - indicates > > to me that James M Addams (consistent spelling variant not used with other > > families of the same surname) was the son of Joseph & Elvira and the husband > > of Margaret C Treadwell. The "M" could well stand for "Marion." Whether > > you call this proof or deduction, I'm not real sure. Obviously the James > > Newton Adams is out of the running - wrong middle name/initial. And the > > fact that James' father's brother's widow married second James Wilson > > Holstead lends credence since they all ended up in the same place. > > > > > > Hope you can figure out all this stuff. And that it helps. > > > > > > Mysty shakerag@mtnhome.com > > > "Genealogy without documentation is mythology" > > > > > > > Faye > > I am a descendant of Robert Adams through his daughter Maranda who > married Lemuel Holsted. In my family we were told Matthew and Maranda > were twins. This came from my grandfather who was the grandson of > Maranda. Also in the 1850 census Matthew is listed as age 28 which tends > to confirm the twins bit. > > I never heard of an Eliza before and I agree she probably does not > belong there. > > Now most important of all where did you get a copy of Adams Bible pages. > I have never heard of them. This is wonderful news!! Most of what I have > managed to put together has come from oral family history and/or census > which we all know census can be very misleading. I would love to have > any records you have on the Robert Adams family. I am definitely open to > correcting my records. I don't mind being shown I am wrong. I don't want > to use or pass on misleading infomation. > > I actually started the posting on the Adams family trying to get > straight on who James (son of Joseph and grandson of Robert married). > Two people were giving me wildly different info and I wanted to know > which was correct. I try to never guess or assume. I want facts. I also > have been searching for years to confirm that Matthew and Esther were > the parents of Robert (Searcy County about 1817). Again the > circumstantial evidence is strong but I want proof if at all possible so > I have never listed Matthew as Robert's father without qualifying it as > being without proof. I appear to be the only holdout on this. > > Do the Bible records show the parents of Robert and Cinthia? It would be > wonderful news if they do. As to Sarah I have been told but have not > been able to prove that a Sallie (nickname for Sarah) born 1826 married > King Chandler. Does this match the Bible records? The same person who > told me about Sallie also said there was a William born about 1815. He > apparently died young if there was such a person. I never heard of an > Esther but it fits if Matthew and Esther are the parent of Robert. > > Sorry this is so long but I am so excited at the thought that there are > actual Bible records to clear up some of the confusion. Do you have a > copy of the actual record? I would love to have a copy and will send > money to pay for the copying and postage. Any info you can provide much > appreciated and I will share all the info I have if you are interested. > > Judy

In a message dated 06/26/2000 10:07:26 PM Central Daylight Time, ARSEARCY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Which Clemons are you looking for and when? Do you know the parents for the above children? >> I do know that my 3rd great-grandfather is R P Clemons. His first name is spelled differently Roderick, Rudrick, etc. I am trying to find out which spelling is the correct one. My mom always used to call his Ruderick. R P Clemons and Wealthy have the following children: Christian, George W., Rebecca, Dulcena, Cynthia E., Richard M., William J. and maybe Louzany. I am not sure about Louzany William J. is my 2nd great-grandfather. He didn't stay in Blanco. He left around 1880. He had a baby girl with Isabel Burke on Mar 19, 1875 named Lillian. They went by wagon train to the Washington/Idaho border. Isabel never made it and died in Colorado on the way there. Lillian stayed the rest of her days in that area and became the first superintendent of schools in Washington state. She traveled by horse to each school and would sleep in someone's barn while on her rounds. William didn't stay in Washington. He married Edith and moved to Florence, Arizona where he made a fortune in cattle and oil. An interesting fact is that Lillian and family went by Clemans not Clemons. Even more interesting is that they came from the Clemens line, which is yet a 3rd spelling. I wonder why they changed it? I am also trying to trace back R P Clemons to Samuel Langhorne Clemens. I know I am Samuel's 6th cousin but I don't know the details and my mother passed away before I could get that detailed information. She was always very proud of that lineage and it was even mentioned in her obit. She was a teacher, pianist, and writer. Any help with filling in the blanks would be appreciated. This mailing list and its subscribers have been a big help to me and I appreciate it. My name is Jill M. Cordone and I live in Huntsville, Alabama. I can return the lookup favors anytime! Jill M. Cordone

Jill, There is a wonderful old book entitled "History and Folklore of Searcy County, Arkansas" edited by Mary Frances Harrell. (the date of printing is 1977) The book is made up of interviews with residents of Searcy County. It is an oral history and a treasure. In the index I found the following Clemons' listed: Clemons, Joe and Mary Griffin p. 143, 246 Clemons, Lonzo p. 313 Also in the book, on p. 104, is a brief description of the community of Blanco. I don't know if these are any of your people or not. If you want me to copy the articles let me know. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMCordone@aol.com> To: <ARSEARCY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:11 AM Subject: [ARSEARCY] addresses > I am researching the Clemons Family in Blanco, Searcy County. I am having > trouble with some lookups because Blanco is not listed as a city in Arkansas. > If I am looking for information in Blanco what city do I look under? > > I am trying to find out what cemeteries are in Blanco. I am trying to find > out were the Clemons are buried. I am also interested in any names of > historical books on Blanco or Searcy County. > Thanks, > Jill M. Cordone > > ______________________________