T. H. Shipman--St Joe--Gone; R B Shipman--Bear Creek--Gone to Texas So, yes he is, and no he ain't. JJJ Janie wrote: > James is there a Thomas Henry Shipman in this 1890 Searcy County > Property Tax Book > Thanks > JW > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Johnston" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so > > > > There is the Bobbie Mays "1890 Searcy County, Arkansas Personal > Property > > Tax Book" now out of print. It has C R Stone in Tomahawk; W P > Stone in > > St Joe, C T Stone in Calf Creek. > > > > JJJ > > > > ron stone wrote: > > > >>Is there any taxlist/local census or whatever that might fill in a > gap? > >> > >>I know that my Stone line was in Blount Co AL for their 1866 local > census. > >> > >>I know that I have found them in Searcy and Boone cos for 1870-80 cen. > >>We all know that the 1890 census was burned or water destroyed in > the fire. > >> > >>BLM tells me that ggpa William P Stone homesteaded in Searcy and took > >>title to land in 1894. (his brothers: Wesley, James & Francis: > father was > >>Wiley) > >> > >>I find him in 1900 on the IT census with the remainder of his large > family. > >> > >>I find his girls married Hancock sons: John m. Mary Etta and > James m. Martha. > >>(Mary Etta and John in Bellfonte..Boone ..1881) > >> > >>Lore says that W P Stone and the elder Hancock were neighbors along > the Buffalo > >>while farming in Searcy. > >> > >>So back to the first question, what local source(s) might be useful > to check > >>for the period > >>1880-1 894 when the homestead records exists? > >> > >>ron > >> > >> > >>============================== > >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

James is there a Thomas Henry Shipman in this 1890 Searcy County Property Tax Book Thanks JW ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Johnston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so > There is the Bobbie Mays "1890 Searcy County, Arkansas Personal Property > Tax Book" now out of print. It has C R Stone in Tomahawk; W P Stone in > St Joe, C T Stone in Calf Creek. > > JJJ > > ron stone wrote: > >>Is there any taxlist/local census or whatever that might fill in a gap? >> >>I know that my Stone line was in Blount Co AL for their 1866 local census. >> >>I know that I have found them in Searcy and Boone cos for 1870-80 cen. >>We all know that the 1890 census was burned or water destroyed in the fire. >> >>BLM tells me that ggpa William P Stone homesteaded in Searcy and took >>title to land in 1894. (his brothers: Wesley, James & Francis: father was >>Wiley) >> >>I find him in 1900 on the IT census with the remainder of his large family. >> >>I find his girls married Hancock sons: John m. Mary Etta and James m. Martha. >>(Mary Etta and John in Bellfonte..Boone ..1881) >> >>Lore says that W P Stone and the elder Hancock were neighbors along the Buffalo >>while farming in Searcy. >> >>So back to the first question, what local source(s) might be useful to check >>for the period >>1880-1 894 when the homestead records exists? >> >>ron >> >> >>============================== >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Please note that my address has changed to [email protected] Thank you. Rebecca Weigold Researching: Vick, Harness and related families

Is there a Thomas R. Jones that lived in Searcy Co.? I sent away for land records and half show a Thomas R. Jones and the other half of the papers say it's Thomas R. James. He's born about 1878. It fits my Thomas R. James but the paperwork states he had 2 children and Thomas James had 3. Jan James

I did a Google search for Choctaw Certificates and got lots and lots of hits to read. Quite an interesting variety of "points of view" ron in CA -----Original Message----- From: Toulla Taylor <[email protected]> Sent: May 10, 2005 6:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ARSEARCY] FW: What are Choctaw Certificates? Don't know if there was any other discussion on these Certificates, but where can you look these up. Toulla Taylor [email protected] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: James Johnston <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 5/8/2005 9:55:22 PM > Subject: What are Choctaw Certificates? > > When the US Gov't signed the "Dancing Rabbit Creek Treaty" with the > Coctaws in the early 1830s (I think--could be 1820s late) in Mississippi > (or maybe it was Alabama, I'm not going to look it up tonight) the USG > gave warrants or certificates to individual members of the Choctaw who > didn't want to go with the tribe to OK, which were redeemable with US G > land anywhere. These land warrants were fungible, ie they could be sold > and anyone could redeem them. So white people bought these certificates > and used them to redeem Gov't land that they were buying in Searcy > County and elsewhere. I would note that there were middlemen who bought > the certificates from the Choctaw and sold them on. Maybe the Choctaw > Certificates were sold several times before they were actually redeemed. > With land selling at a dollar or a dollar and a quarter, if one could > get a 160 acre certificate for $75, he could do well and save some > money. (I have no idea how much Choctaw Certificates were selling for.) > > JJJ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Don't know if there was any other discussion on these Certificates, but where can you look these up. Toulla Taylor [email protected] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: James Johnston <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 5/8/2005 9:55:22 PM > Subject: What are Choctaw Certificates? > > When the US Gov't signed the "Dancing Rabbit Creek Treaty" with the > Coctaws in the early 1830s (I think--could be 1820s late) in Mississippi > (or maybe it was Alabama, I'm not going to look it up tonight) the USG > gave warrants or certificates to individual members of the Choctaw who > didn't want to go with the tribe to OK, which were redeemable with US G > land anywhere. These land warrants were fungible, ie they could be sold > and anyone could redeem them. So white people bought these certificates > and used them to redeem Gov't land that they were buying in Searcy > County and elsewhere. I would note that there were middlemen who bought > the certificates from the Choctaw and sold them on. Maybe the Choctaw > Certificates were sold several times before they were actually redeemed. > With land selling at a dollar or a dollar and a quarter, if one could > get a 160 acre certificate for $75, he could do well and save some > money. (I have no idea how much Choctaw Certificates were selling for.) > > JJJ

Thank you James. Tina -----Original Message----- From: James Johnston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ARSEARCY] GIBSON & BOYD 1890 Searcy Co Tax List BOYD in 1890 Searcy County Tax List: W M--Calf Creek; B F -- Wiley's Cove; Sarah--Wiley's Cove; W F--Wiley's cove; J M--Wiley's Cove; Samuel--Wiley's cove; I F--Wiley's Cove; C E -- Bear Creek; L W -- Bear Creek [also says "Gone mat" with other names it says "Gone to Texas" or "Gone to Woodruff Co" I do not know where "mat" is. It is probably a misreading, but I don't know of what); David--Bear Creek; M A--Bear Creek. GIBSON in 1890 Searcy County Tax List: H --Campbell; H J --Campbell (Gone to Stone Co); James--Tomahawk (Gone to Boone Co); J W -- Campbell; P D--Wiley's Cove; T M--Bear Creek; W H -- Campbell. JJJ Ben J. Ewing wrote: >J.J. Johnston >If you have access to this book, "1890 Seacy County, AR Pesonal Property Tax >Book" would you please look for Boyd surname in it. >Thanks, Ben Ewing > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Tina Nobriga >Date: 05/08/05 19:36:53 >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so > >Dear J.J.Johnston >If you have access to this book, "1890 Searcy County, Ark. Personal Property >Tax Book" and have a minute, would you please look for GIBSON surname in it. >Either Thomas or/and Matilda? Thanks so much. Tina > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Thanks! I'm trying to read up on all the American history I missed out on, and this is very useful. - Heather http://surgery.uchicago.edu/hblair/ On Sun, 8 May 2005, James Johnston wrote: > When the US Gov't signed the "Dancing Rabbit Creek Treaty" with the Coctaws > in the early 1830s (I think--could be 1820s late) in Mississippi (or maybe it > was Alabama, I'm not going to look it up tonight) the USG gave warrants or > certificates to individual members of the Choctaw who didn't want to go with > the tribe to OK, which were redeemable with US G land anywhere. These land > warrants were fungible, ie they could be sold and anyone could redeem them. > So white people bought these certificates and used them to redeem Gov't land > that they were buying in Searcy County and elsewhere. I would note that > there were middlemen who bought the certificates from the Choctaw and sold > them on. Maybe the Choctaw Certificates were sold several times before they > were actually redeemed. With land selling at a dollar or a dollar and a > quarter, if one could get a 160 acre certificate for $75, he could do well > and save some money. (I have no idea how much Choctaw Certificates were > selling for.) > > JJJ > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Wanda: COTTON 1890 Searcy Co Tax List: D M--Wiley's Cove; F N -- Wiley's Cove; E P -- Wiley's cove; C T -- Wiley's Cove; C P -- Wiley's Cove; S B -- Bear Creek; Jane -- Bear Creek. LEMONS 1890 Searcy Co Tax List: J S -- Red River. JJJ wanda duval wrote: >J.J. Johnston ; >Could you look up the surnames of Cotton and Leming/Lemons for me ? >Thanks, Wanda Duval > > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >

J.J. Johnston ; Could you look up the surnames of Cotton and Leming/Lemons for me ? Thanks, Wanda Duval

When the US Gov't signed the "Dancing Rabbit Creek Treaty" with the Coctaws in the early 1830s (I think--could be 1820s late) in Mississippi (or maybe it was Alabama, I'm not going to look it up tonight) the USG gave warrants or certificates to individual members of the Choctaw who didn't want to go with the tribe to OK, which were redeemable with US G land anywhere. These land warrants were fungible, ie they could be sold and anyone could redeem them. So white people bought these certificates and used them to redeem Gov't land that they were buying in Searcy County and elsewhere. I would note that there were middlemen who bought the certificates from the Choctaw and sold them on. Maybe the Choctaw Certificates were sold several times before they were actually redeemed. With land selling at a dollar or a dollar and a quarter, if one could get a 160 acre certificate for $75, he could do well and save some money. (I have no idea how much Choctaw Certificates were selling for.) JJJ

BOYD in 1890 Searcy County Tax List: W M--Calf Creek; B F -- Wiley's Cove; Sarah--Wiley's Cove; W F--Wiley's cove; J M--Wiley's Cove; Samuel--Wiley's cove; I F--Wiley's Cove; C E -- Bear Creek; L W -- Bear Creek [also says "Gone mat" with other names it says "Gone to Texas" or "Gone to Woodruff Co" I do not know where "mat" is. It is probably a misreading, but I don't know of what); David--Bear Creek; M A--Bear Creek. GIBSON in 1890 Searcy County Tax List: H --Campbell; H J --Campbell (Gone to Stone Co); James--Tomahawk (Gone to Boone Co); J W -- Campbell; P D--Wiley's Cove; T M--Bear Creek; W H -- Campbell. JJJ Ben J. Ewing wrote: >J.J. Johnston >If you have access to this book, "1890 Seacy County, AR Pesonal Property Tax >Book" would you please look for Boyd surname in it. >Thanks, Ben Ewing > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Tina Nobriga >Date: 05/08/05 19:36:53 >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so > >Dear J.J.Johnston >If you have access to this book, "1890 Searcy County, Ark. Personal Property >Tax Book" and have a minute, would you please look for GIBSON surname in it. >Either Thomas or/and Matilda? Thanks so much. Tina > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >

J.J. Johnston If you have access to this book, "1890 Seacy County, AR Pesonal Property Tax Book" would you please look for Boyd surname in it. Thanks, Ben Ewing -------Original Message------- From: Tina Nobriga Date: 05/08/05 19:36:53 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so Dear J.J.Johnston If you have access to this book, "1890 Searcy County, Ark. Personal Property Tax Book" and have a minute, would you please look for GIBSON surname in it. Either Thomas or/and Matilda? Thanks so much. Tina ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Dear J.J.Johnston If you have access to this book, "1890 Searcy County, Ark. Personal Property Tax Book" and have a minute, would you please look for GIBSON surname in it. Either Thomas or/and Matilda? Thanks so much. Tina

Thank you very much for the fine article on Henry Bowman Turney in the April 2005 issue of the Searcy County Ancestor Information Exchange. He was my 3g-grandmother's brother, and he second wife, Mary Jane Wasson, was the sister of my 2g-grandmother. I am cc:ing the list in case other people are interested. I hadn't had a good death date for Henry Bowman Turney, and your article on the cemetery cleared that up for me. Bill Turney's note that I have in my files says that he died from blood poisoning after being bitten by a pig he was carrying over his shoulder. You mention "Choctaw Certificates" in describing land purchases by the Turney family: what are these? PS -- my dad describes his granddad, Rufus Blair, baking sweet potatoes for him in the coals of a potbellied stove that Rufus used for heating his fruit stand on Mountain Street in Fayetteville, much like you describe in the sweet potato article. (Although he didn't tell me about curing them -- I will ask about that). Daddy baked sweet potatoes for us kids in a similar manner in the fireplace. They are the best! - Heather http://surgery.uchicago.edu/hblair/

Thanks. I wondered if there would be something of that sort. W P would be William Pitchford Stone, ggpa that is. St Joe sounds right according to some family stories that have come down. There should be some Hancocks and may a Cruse or two. Any suggestions as to where might I get copies of those pages from the book? As to why the daughters married at Bellfonte, I can only guess it was that the bulk of the family was over there and /or maybe geography had something to do with it. -----Original Message----- From: James Johnston <[email protected]> Sent: May 7, 2005 6:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ARSEARCY] 1890 or so There is the Bobbie Mays "1890 Searcy County, Arkansas Personal Property Tax Book" now out of print. It has C R Stone in Tomahawk; W P Stone in St Joe, C T Stone in Calf Creek. JJJ ron stone wrote: >Is there any taxlist/local census or whatever that might fill in a gap? > >I know that my Stone line was in Blount Co AL for their 1866 local census. > >I know that I have found them in Searcy and Boone cos for 1870-80 cen. >We all know that the 1890 census was burned or water destroyed in the fire. > >BLM tells me that ggpa William P Stone homesteaded in Searcy and took >title to land in 1894. (his brothers: Wesley, James & Francis: father was >Wiley) > >I find him in 1900 on the IT census with the remainder of his large family. > >I find his girls married Hancock sons: John m. Mary Etta and James m. Martha. >(Mary Etta and John in Bellfonte..Boone ..1881) > >Lore says that W P Stone and the elder Hancock were neighbors along the Buffalo >while farming in Searcy. > >So back to the first question, what local source(s) might be useful to check >for the period >1880-1 894 when the homestead records exists? > >ron > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

There is the Bobbie Mays "1890 Searcy County, Arkansas Personal Property Tax Book" now out of print. It has C R Stone in Tomahawk; W P Stone in St Joe, C T Stone in Calf Creek. JJJ ron stone wrote: >Is there any taxlist/local census or whatever that might fill in a gap? > >I know that my Stone line was in Blount Co AL for their 1866 local census. > >I know that I have found them in Searcy and Boone cos for 1870-80 cen. >We all know that the 1890 census was burned or water destroyed in the fire. > >BLM tells me that ggpa William P Stone homesteaded in Searcy and took >title to land in 1894. (his brothers: Wesley, James & Francis: father was >Wiley) > >I find him in 1900 on the IT census with the remainder of his large family. > >I find his girls married Hancock sons: John m. Mary Etta and James m. Martha. >(Mary Etta and John in Bellfonte..Boone ..1881) > >Lore says that W P Stone and the elder Hancock were neighbors along the Buffalo >while farming in Searcy. > >So back to the first question, what local source(s) might be useful to check >for the period >1880-1 894 when the homestead records exists? > >ron > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >

Is there any taxlist/local census or whatever that might fill in a gap? I know that my Stone line was in Blount Co AL for their 1866 local census. I know that I have found them in Searcy and Boone cos for 1870-80 cen. We all know that the 1890 census was burned or water destroyed in the fire. BLM tells me that ggpa William P Stone homesteaded in Searcy and took title to land in 1894. (his brothers: Wesley, James & Francis: father was Wiley) I find him in 1900 on the IT census with the remainder of his large family. I find his girls married Hancock sons: John m. Mary Etta and James m. Martha. (Mary Etta and John in Bellfonte..Boone ..1881) Lore says that W P Stone and the elder Hancock were neighbors along the Buffalo while farming in Searcy. So back to the first question, what local source(s) might be useful to check for the period 1880-1 894 when the homestead records exists? ron

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Here you go. Mary 1910 Census, Wileys Cove Twp, Searcy County Household 31 Passmore, Carm Head 26 Occupation Tinker Idah Wife 31 Ellen Daughter 2 Boyd, Hugh Stepson 13 Howell Stepson 10 Elmer Stepson 8 1920 Census, Wileys Cove Twp, Searcy County, Household 18 Passmore, Carm E. Head 35 Occupation Farmer Idah Wife 40 Ellen Daughter 11 Hazel Daughter 9 Boyd, Hugh Stepson 22 Howell Stepson 20 In a message dated 5/6/2005 1:11:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: E. C. PASSMORE LIVING IN WILEYS COVER, ARK. 1910-1920 FED. CENSUS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2V.2ADE/1828 Message Board Post: HELLO. I'M LOOKING FOR AN E.C. (ELOSS CARM) PASSMORE LIVING IN WILEYS COVER, ARK. IN THE 1910 AND 1920 FED. CENSUS. IN THE 1930 FED. CENSUS. E.C. PASSMORE IS IN SEVERS TOWNSHIP, OK, OKMULGEE COUNTY. ANY INFORMATION IS APPRECATION PHYLLIS