Hi, Your message was very interesting. So I am writing to ask that you keep your eyes open for the folks listed below. I need to identify the parents, siblings, etc. of Jeff and Nancy. Any help would be veery, very much appreciated. My great-great grandfather was Elisha Jefferson (Jeff) Rhoades, who was the son of Elisha Jefferson (Jeff) Rhoades and Sally (?) Rhoades. Jeff had two brothers named Samuel and Bob. He was born August 6, 1810 in Tennessee. He was known to be half Choctaw and it is said that he lived many years with the tribe in Mississippi. He was reputed to be related to the principal chief of the tribe. Jeff and his first wife, Catherine Hayward (born 1815), lived in Mississippi during the 1830s where three of their five children were born. By 1838, Jeff and Catherine were living in Johnson County, Arkansas where their two younger children were born. The children were Robert A. in 1832; George W. in 1834; Amanda in 1835; William H. 1838; and Martha E. in 1840. Catherine Hayward Rhoades died Johnson County in the early 1840s between the age of 25 and 30 years. Jeff next married my great-great grandmother, Nancy Bowen, who was born about 1820 in Tennessee. Sometime before 1850 the family moved farther south to Scott County, Arkansas where Jeff had a farm and other business interests. Six children were born of this marriage: Aluna Permelia in 1846; John H. in 1848; Elisha Jefferson, Jr. in 1849; Samuel Russell in 1852; Elmira Elizabeth in 1854 (my great-grandmother); and Mary Jane in 1856. Jeff's first set of children would have ranged in age from 14 to six when Nancy and he began having children. Nancy Bowen Rhoades died about 1856-1857 in Scott County, Arkansas. I have a copy of the 1850 Scott County census but can't figure out what to do next. Jeff's third wife, Susan Armstrong Yates (born in 1824), was a widow with four children. The first of her Yates children was born in 1842 and the last born in 1852. Jeff and Susan married in the late 1850s, and by 1859 a son named Charley Rhoades had been born. By this time the two oldest Rhoades' sons were adults living independently away from the family. The oldest daughter, Amanda, married Peter Sparks, a neighbor in Scott County. In 1859 Martha married Jasper Newton Gibson, a school teacher and Christian minister. Martha and Jasper were married at Jeff's home. An unproven story about Jeff is that he was briefly married either between wives #1 and 2, or wives #2 and 3. One daughter, Rose, was born, but he thought this wife to be unkind to his children so he divorced her. In the spring of 1860 the large family left Arkansas for Texas. Jeff carried with him a statement signed by members of the Christian Church in Boon Township, Scott County, attesting to the full fellowship of their beloved brother and sister (Jeff and Susan), and recommending them to members of the Christian Church elsewhere. Jeff settled in Austin and was in some type of business by 1861. On June 25, 1862 his last child, Jasper Lytton Rhoades was born here in Austin. Soon thereafter, in 1862 or 1863, Jeff reportedly died. The exact date and cause were not recorded or passed down in the midst of the Civil War. After the death of Jeff Rhoades, his widow remained in the Austin vicinity with her Yates children and two young Rhoades sons. Of the eleven other Rhoades children, only the two eldest, Robert and George, were not accounted for in Texas. At the time of the family move from Arkansas to Texas Amanda was married to Peter SPARKS. Amanda and her husband, along with her brother William H. Rhoades (called Whig), then still single at age 22, went directly to Bastrop County where relatives and allied families-many from Scott County, Arkansas-had settled prior to 1860. Amanda and William shared the responsibility of caring for their younger half-brothers and sisters-the children of Jeff and Nancy Bowen Rhoades. This large, interconnected family was unique; first because of its size, make-up and the strong bonds that held the children together through moves, changes and adversity. Secondly remarkable was the loyal dedication to the welfare of the younger half-siblings evidenced by the older Rhoades and Yates children. Nancy and Jeff's elder daughter married a Yates step-brother, further linking the family. Elmira Elizabeth and Mary Jane Rhoades were orphaned before the age of approximately six and four years. Elmira lived with William, called Whig, and Mary Jane lived with Amanda. Sadly, Amanda did not live to see the marriages of the two young half-sisters she had mothered nor her own two daughters. She died at age 35 in Bastrop County, Texas. Elmira Elizabeth and Mary Jane Rhoades married brothers, Jacob Beckwith Gould and William Gould. Whig's closeness to the half-sisters he helped to raise continued throughout their lives. In 1888 he moved from Bastrop County, Texas to Otero County, New Mexico where his two half-sisters and their growing families had migrated. (By 1900 his wife had died, perhaps before he left Texas.) Whig had five sons. Nancy Bowen reportedly had a sister younger by 23 years named Parizade (Parie) Bowen Bilton. I have so far been unsuccessful in tracing Nancy beyond her birth. Mildred Vuris

Debbie, I have two listings for marriages which appear in County Court House records; Wagoner, W W, 60, of Waldron to HISAW, Mahala Adaline, 52, by JW DeShazo on 10 Oct 1889. Page 515 Sherrill, Samuel R, 25, of Waldron to HISAW, Malissa, 18, of Waldron by JM Harvey, JP on 16 Jan 1890. Page 535 There are many listings for the name HISAU, could this be another spelling for the name you are interested in??? Wanda

Hello Scott Co. Researchers, I have John Calvin WALKER b TN. m Hannah HOLCOMB b MO. John and Hannah WALKER moved from McDonald Co. MO to Scott Co. AR prior to 1867. Children Louisa Rebecca m Granderson D. NEVILL Scott CO? Lewis married 3 times.1st unknown, 2 India unknown, 3 Susan COOK-Poteau. Azariah Pleasant m Josephine ABBOTT Scott Co. Sanders William F. Mahala Cintilda m unknown ROBINSON, 2nd unknown SPEIGHTS and John GORDON Susan Emma Dora Onato m William Lafayette SLAUGHTER Scott Co. I have info on John WALKER and Hannah HOLCOMB. Their daughter, Dora Onato Walker SLAUGHTER is my ancestor. Willing to share. Shirley

Scott Co Researchers, Thomas Jefferson WILEY- AL>IL>AR-married Martha Hightower in IL, 1866. Moved to Scott County prior to the 1870 census. 2 m Alice HOGAN. Children William Sherman, m Nannie McDONALD Scott Co. 2nd-Willie DOOK I.T. and 3rd-Susan COWAN, I.T. John S. m L. V. DICKERSON Scott Co. James Marshall m Cynthia Alice LASITER, Scott Co. Cordella D. Daisy Amanda Mary Ann Elizabeth m T.T. STEVENS, Scott Co. The three sons of Thomas J. WILEY were Baptist ministers serving in OK and AR. Thomas died 1888 Scott Co. Looking for the parents of Thomas J. WILEY, they are said to be James Monroe WILEY and Elizabeth WEBSTER. Anyone connected to this family? Shirley

Scott Co. Surnames George Washington WILEY AL>IL?AR m Matilda HURT Scott Co. about 1880. George moved to Stigler OK abt 1908 and after the death of Matilda he married Mrs. Ester DOYEL Smith. Children from 1st marriage. John Marion m Della MOORE about 1908 Edgar Allen m Dolly Rose SLAUGHTER 1905, Logan Co. Hugh Latimer (Latt) m Lida May SMOOT Elmer m Arlie RILEY Haskell Co. OK Rose Lee m Dan H. CADMUS Charles Vester m Daisy GLASS Children from 2nd marrige of George W.WILEY and Ester DOYEL Smith George Turner Ted Roslen Lola Mabel Coy Doyel-all born in Stigler OK Need to find the parents of George W. WILEY, said to be James Monroe WILEY and Elizabeth WEBSTER AL>IL?AR? I have information on George Wiley and his children, would like to know more about the spouses connected to this WILEY family. Shirley

Debbie, I will post this to the list rather than to you personally. The 1870 Scott Co. census lists only one Hisaw family: Hickman Township, P.O. Waldron #139/139 Joel C. Hisaw 52 m GA Farmer ---/$200 Mahala 36 f GA Nathaniel 14 m GA Joel C. 13 m AL William 12 m AL Elenor 9 f AL Elizabeth 5 f MS Adaline 7mo f AR I don't know if this is the family you are searching for, but they are the only Hisaws on the 1870 Scott Co. census. Are you looking for a census index that includes the entire state of Arkansas for 1870? I, too, would like to know if that is available? Perhaps on CD? My experience with the CD indexes is that they are usually not all that accurate or complete, but certainly better than nothing. Neither births nor deaths were required to be recorded in Arkansas until 1914. My experience has been that more often than not, they were still not recorded even many years after that. My husband was born in 1938 and has only a "delayed birth certificate" filed years later, perhaps when he started to school? I've had the same experience in other Arkansas Counties, as well. My mother's birth in Searcy County in 1920 was not recorded; a great-great grandfather died in Van Buren Co. in 1934: no death certificate was filed. I suppose in the smaller, more rural areas such as Scott, Searcy, Van Buren Counties this problem may be more prevalent? Sometimes you just have to try to work around the lack of records. When I first began researching 25 years or so ago I was told the southern states are the most difficult to research. All of my families are from the south so I have no way of comparing, but I've found researching them to be not impossible. Sometimes we have to just do the best we can and gather as much information as possible and then go with only our best guesses when the documented proof is just not available. Delaine Edwards

I hope all of you won't hesitate to repost queries you've posted before on here. This list is growing all the time with new subscribers and if you post something you've posted before, someone new to the list may very well see it and be able to help. I think we're all friends on here and don't believe anyone will mind if they've read your query before. Delaine Edwards

In a message dated 97-07-17 18:09:42 EDT, you write: Charlene, > Also, does anyone out there know how to read e-mailed GEDCOM files, or > how to download them so they are readable? I go into Family Tree Maker and pull them up. If you have FTM you can import GEDCOM files easily. > > <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/home/Times.htm">Ancestry Times</A> > Debbie Anderson dkrainh20a@aol.com

Hi, Debbie, I'm sorry that you are having trouble getting census records at the FHC. I researched at the large FHC in Salt Lake City , Utah for nearly 2 years, 12 hours a day, and my focus was Arkansas. That is where the whole family on my Husbands' line finally converged together. Everyone was intermarried and stayed in the same place for generations. Up there, they have one floor that has NOTHING except films and readers, immigration and census records. Arkansas has ALL census records up to and including 1920. However, where I am now, only has 1790 census indexes in most states. The reason being that funds and space are not available to handle ALL the census records...you can't believe how much room they take!! however, they do have a way in these branch libraries to ORDER the Census records that you need, for temporary or permanent use in their library. It is much cheaper than a trip to SL, or Provo, Utah, where they also have the complete facility, including the indexes in Books. There are also films from the courthouses that can be ordered on the same basis, usually $2 or $3, a film. In fact, some counties take it upon themselves to go through their own records, and then type up their census records for the convenience of researchers. Many, Many counties send bus loads of researchers from their locality to stay a full week in SL, and do nothing but research, and take records back to, or add to the library there. They have dozens of books on counties, organized not only by county, but as you stand and study the books in your county, the surrounding counties are right next to yours..Pope County, during the civil war, when their courthouse was in danger of ravage by rebels, and by tornados, even, took their records out of the courthouse, hid them in a cave until the war was over, and then brought them out and built a new courthouse. That is why they have an abundance of records..Perry Co, on the other hand has had their courthouse burn down 3 times, and destroy all their records, and when I was researching there a couple of years ago, gathering marriage records, the tobacco smoke was so thick that I had to open a window and sit right by it to keep from asphixiation!!! I can see it burning for the fourth time, shortly!! I can't believe they allow that to happen, in a wooden building, no less!!! It is really sad, because that was the heart of our family...Some moved over into Faulkner, and so that is where the base was later...But, nothing can replace the Perry co., records..The Yell county organizations have done a WONDERFUL job of typing all their census records, and I can zerox them, and put them in a binder and have them to refer to often, as I continue to discover more and more intermarried lines as I go along...Thank goodness for far-seeing people!!! I have many records that I copied in that 2 years at the library, and if I know exactly what you want, and when, I am within 2 hours of that library now, and can possibly look for your names the next time I go there...I would be happy to help!! Also, on the FHC computer, is a program called the Card Catalog, that tells everything in the library that is on film or in the book section or on microfiche...(That is a dream because they only cost abt. 15 cents to order, and are usually retained in the library on a permanent basis)...and most of that info. can be ordered on a rental basis. I KNOW that there is nothing more frustrating than knowing WHAT you want and need, and NOT having it available. The FHC here that I work at now, is just such a facility. A man from Connecticut came in awhile back, and showed me a few names and asked for assistance...Having been in the SL library, I could just picture EXACTLY what to do, and where to go to take him back AT LEAST 4 generations!!! But, our library is one of those that is just TOO SMALL to hold much, and I felt like crying, because I could have helped him if I had had the facilities...All I could do was to look up film #'s for him, and tell him to look up a FHC in Connecticut and order those films... I have quite a few records here on Cemetery, land, marriage, census, history, etc. of Arkansas counties, that I can do some lookups for you if that would help. I have dabbled in Scott county, but have mostly, YELL, JOHNSON, FRANKLIN, PERRY, FAULKNER, MONTGOMERY, HOTSPRINGS, WHITE, INDEPENDENCE, PULASKI, POPE, & WASHINGTON Counties....I have some in others, searching for our families...I would be happy to share any information that I can to help you.....These are the names I am gathering info. on there...HEFFINGTON, SPRADLIN, STARR, BATTENFIELD, HARDIN, HOGAN, HARKEY, WILLIAMS, MORRIS, REED, DAVIDSON, TURNER, NOONER, NUNER, BRYAN, MCMINN, DAILEY, AND MANY MANY MORE INTERRELATED FAMILIES.....CHANCE, HILL, BAKER, ANTHONY, INGRAMS, AND OTHERS... Please, don't be discouraged!!! I have gone into homes of Don's relatives and had them open up their bibles and we would copy 2-3 generations, and many of them had generations of family, dates etc. right in their heads...I couldn't believe it, but they wouldn't open up until they saw Don, and because they KNEW him and his family, they would tell me their information...and then they would say...(because I would put in right onto my lap top computer, and then run them off a copy on by portable bubble jet printer) "you know, our children are not and DO NOT know the stuff that is in my head...I know it, but when I am gone, they are not going to know this information..." and they would, almost without exception, take the sheets of paper and hug them to their hearts, and cry!! One man said, "This is what I've wanted to have, all my life." It is wonderful to see their joy...But, they sure are close mouthed when they don't know you... Let me know what I can do to assist you, ok? LaRee Nooner dnooner@sisna.com (ps. I hope you won't feel badly if I send this on to the ARSCOTT rootsweb, but I would like all those who need my infor. to please ask...The more of us researching Arkansas and finding records...the better...we can all help each other,...and really put Arkansas on the map....where it belongs...!!!!) ---------- > > Hi all!, > > I know you are probably all tired of seeing my postings, but I am really > stuck. I just spent all day at my FHC (again). I think they think Arkansas > isn't really a state :-(( > > They have no CD's, no Census Indexes past 1860 .... and very few land > records. I am trying to find the 1870 listing for the HISAW families in AR. > I think they are in Scott County by that time. I do know that when my g > grandmother and father started having kids in 1882, they were all born in > waldron, AR. > > I need help finding birth records and some sort of marriage record on the > parents: Thomas L. Rainwater(s) and Sarah Elizabeth Hisaw (Lizzy or > Elizabeth). > > Any ideas??? I considered buying the census index CD's, but as I have found > out, they are not complete. HELP! > > Thanks for any assistance and your patience in my reposting! > Debbie Rainwater Anderson > dkrainh20a@aol.com > >

No information. Sorry.

Hi all!, I know you are probably all tired of seeing my postings, but I am really stuck. I just spent all day at my FHC (again). I think they think Arkansas isn't really a state :-(( They have no CD's, no Census Indexes past 1860 .... and very few land records. I am trying to find the 1870 listing for the HISAW families in AR. I think they are in Scott County by that time. I do know that when my g grandmother and father started having kids in 1882, they were all born in waldron, AR. I need help finding birth records and some sort of marriage record on the parents: Thomas L. Rainwater(s) and Sarah Elizabeth Hisaw (Lizzy or Elizabeth). Any ideas??? I considered buying the census index CD's, but as I have found out, they are not complete. HELP! Thanks for any assistance and your patience in my reposting! Debbie Rainwater Anderson dkrainh20a@aol.com

Hi everyone! I've been using the following website for Family Tree Maker CD lookups, and am wondering if anyone else out there has used it, and what their opinion of it is? http://www.seidata.com/~lhoffman/cdlist.html I have to admit I'm a little disappointed, especially with the marriage CDs. I got back responses on The World Family Tree CDs, but it has been in the form of GEDCOM attachments, and I don't know how to read them, or to load them, so I have had to scroll through several hundred pages of information to find what I'm looking for. The response back, though, has been really fast, and the people resonding back are great. If any of you have tried it, let ARSCOTT members know. Okay? Or of any other good websites out there that we don't know about. Lets get some discussion going here. Also, does anyone out there know how to read e-mailed GEDCOM files, or how to download them so they are readable? Do you all know how lucky we are to have the Scott County Web Page? I think it is the best I've seen. Charlene

-- [ From: Ruth L. Jenkins * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Looking for information on the nationality of Tom Suddith and Tempie Strickland Suddith, both died in 1917 in Hon, Scott, AR. Were they full- blooded Cherokee or a fraction of, or was just one of them Cherokee? Our family story is that Tempie, born in November 1839, may have been carried as a baby on the Trail of Tears. Also did anyone in the family register on the Cherokee rolls? We've not been able to find this information. Thank for any help! Ruth Jenkins vaju54a@prodigy.com

Looking for JOSEPH L. CORAM AND JOSEPH MACAFEE CORAM father and son. b.? Lowell, Mass? b.1-19-1874 Lowell, Mass. mar. lilley Kimbale Mar. Hattie Diamond Somers b.7-20-1844 Mass. b. 6-14-1883 Forest, ontario, Canada Any help would be greatly appreciated. DJ CORAM

The Scott County mailing list is now available in Digest form. Rather than give the directions for switching from "list" form as you're now getting it, if anyone is interested in switching over to "digest" form, just drop me an e-mail and I'll do it for you or give you the directions. Everyone on this list must be busy researching, gone on vacation, or just too busy to write as we've sure been inactive lately. Why don't some of you submit a query here and the rest of us will see if we can help you? Delaine Edwards delaine@ipa.net

I think some of you may be interested in this. >Hello Delaine: > >Thanks to your efforts; I have received a snail mail packaage from >Patricia Blanscet Morris. > >It was loaded with information pertaining to Blansett Arkansas as >Patricia Morris and John Dill did quite a bit of research at the Fort >Smith,Ar library . > >one excerpt from " One Mans Family " by LaVerne Jernigan Hall, stated; " >Mr. Goodman, the county historian at Waldron, Arkansas helped me find >the name of the settler at Blanscet, Arkansas. His name was James >Blanscet who settled there. His property was sold in 1852 so he probley >home steaded long before that ". This was written by LaVerne in 1982. >LaVerne spells BLANSETT Blanscet. > >The Blansett Post Office was located at Tennessee Young's property and >she was postmaster for several years. > >Per writing by Wineri Blalock; The Blansett Post office was named after >James P. Blansett. James was the son of William and Elizabeth Blansett. >James died 24 April 1864 and is buried in the Hawkins Cemetery at Parks, >Arkansas. > >Norman Thomas Blansett >Pocahontas, Ar 72455 > >P.S you may post to the web if you want too. > > >

Hi all! Does anyone out there have the Family Tree Maker CD320 1880 census index for Texas?, and would be willing to share some info from it with me? Would be much appreciated. Thanks so much Charlene Holland gwhstamp@presys.com ------------------------------

Hi, Hope all of you had a great 4th of July. In trying to locate information for a new subscriber to this list, I found a land record on the BLM CD for her ancestor, Elisha J. Rhoades, in Scott Co. in 1858. This was listed as "Choctaw Scrip" and I'm not familiar with those records at all. Does anyone on this list know what type of record that might be and if she ordered the original documents from BLM, if there might be useful information in them? Thanks for your help! Delaine Edwards ------------------------------

Hi everyone! I am the infamous Charlene of the Journey/Jurney family. I started out knowing next to nothing about the Journey family. My great-grandmother was LAURAH BELLE JOURNEY HARRIS, wife of ROBERT M. HARRIS of Scott County. When I first started this research, that is allthe information I had, other than, according to Laurah back in the 40s (She died in 1942), there had been only one remaining relative. That was said to be either an Albert or an Arthur. (depending on who was telling the story!) I didn’t know if that was her father, brother, uncle or who it was. I didn’t even know where they came from, and no one still alive could tell me either. Some said they thought she was an orphan, or perhaps her father was an orphan. Well, I finally found the 1910 census of my great-grandparents at the genealogy library and it listed Laurah has having been born in Tennessee, as was her parents. I was going to the library (60 miles away) a couple of times a month to go through microfilms of census records, etc, but it was going really slow. Finally I found Delaine Edwards. Yay!! :) !! I requested lookups of all the Journey families from 1870. Nearly drove her crazy, I think, with all my requests. Anyway . . . to make a long story even longer . . . I went through all the Journeys, and found an Elijah F. Journey, who had a daughter Laura, and along with other children, a son named Albert. That had to be it. The only two names I knew. It just had to be!! Then Delaine found Elijah’s obituary and it told where he had come from . . . Maury County, Tennessee, and that he had been in the Confederate Army. That was the start of finding out all kinds of "neat stuff." Next library visit I looked in the 1860 census and found a Nathaniel Journey (only it was spelled Jurney) who had a son called Elijah. I found someone on the Internet to look up Elijah’s Civil War record and got information about him. So this is some of what I know. (You didn't have anything else to do today, right? :D) Here are the JOURNEY/JURNEY (it is spelled both ways) families as I know it right now. NATHANIEL T. JOURNEY was born in Virginia about 1811. His wife’s name was MAHALA and she was born in Tennessee in 1816. It is possible that Nathaniel’s father was named WILLIAM JOURNEY. They lived in the 24th District of Maury County, Tennessee in the 1860 and 1870 census. There were five sons, EMANUEL (1835), JOHN (1838), ELIJAH (1840)my great-great grandfather, JAMES P.(1842) and SAMUEL (1845) and one daughter, ELLEN (1853). By 1870, some were married. EMANUEL JOURNEY - VIRGINIA (EVANS?). ELIJAH F. JOURNEY - REBECCA C. (called DOLLIE). SAMUEL JOURNEY - CORDELIA. ELLEN JOURNEY - WILLIAM WATSON. JAMES P. JOURNEY - AMANDA J. GILLAM. I think at least three of the brothers moved to Scott County, AR around 1874 . . . Elijah, James and John. Both Elijah and James P. served in the 48th Tennessee Infantry of the Confederate Army. Some of the other brothers may have also fought in the Civil War. I don’t know yet. Dollie died in 1892 and Elijah remarried a Mrs. BELL GRAY. By 1920 there were only two Journeys in the census of Scott County: OMER (HOMER?) JOURNEY, grandson of James P. Journey, and a LYNN JOURNEY (I don’t know who she was.). LAURAH BELLE HARRIS was widowed by then and was not in the 1920 census. I don’t know where she was living at that time, but she was in Scott County at her death in 1942. I havn't found Nathaniel Journey’s father and mother as yet. Now you probably know more than you want to know about the Journeys. And there is a lot more. It would take pages, I’m afraid. I have to say it has been so exciting to find all this information about this family, plus details about the HARRIS family that I didn’t know, and info about another great-grandmother, MELVINA JONES and her background. As many of you know and have experienced, these ancestors become very real to you. And it seems to me, the more I learn, the more I want to know! I could not have done it so quickly, however, without the help of Delaine Edwards. She has been an angel. O:-) Charlene gwhstamp@presys.com ------------------------------

Researching STRICKLIN, RAY in Scott Co, AR from abt 1880 to 1932. Mary Spurgeon Jary@nvsn.com ------------------------------