At 05:16 PM 2/6/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Can't help but be interested in conversation of Saline CO. AR. >Have an elusive g-grandfather and mother that were married in Saline Twp. >Saline Co. AR in 1878. >Asbury Allison "Berry" Mann and Susan Deer, any one know of this family? >Have been unable to find anything about them other then the marriage. >birth dates Asbury 1852, Susan 1860 places unknown. >Any Help is greatly appreciated. >Margrett _Saline County, Arkansas, 1880 Census_ (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1989), p. 128: Dyer Township, Dwelling 79: Berry HANN [sic], age 24, b. AR, father b. AR, mother b. TN--Farmer Susan , age 23, AR/AR/AR wife Mary , age 1, AR/AR/AR daughter Dyer Township, Dwelling 82: James MANN, , age 24, AR/??/??--Farmer Elizabeth , age 17, AR/TN/VA--wife James , age 12, AR/TN/VA--brother Eliza A. , age 50, VA/VA/VA--mother, widowed/divorced [Dwelling 62 is James HANN, age 30, TN/TN/TN, and Dwelling 72 is Jourdon HANN, age 47, TN/KY/AL--I don't know if these names are really HANN or MANN.] [NOTE: I wonder if James is Elizabeth's brother and Eliza Elizabeth's mother, instead of being the brother and mother of JAMES? I question this because Eliza is born in Virginia and James MANN doesn't know where his mother is born, whereas Elizabeth states that HER mother is born in Virginia. However, I don't have access to the original census so I don't know if the questions marks mean the transcriber couldn't read them or the enumerator wrote them. CEB] ===== _Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1999), p. 90: J. L. MANN, 24, and Elizabeth WITHAM, 17, married March 28, 1880 by James M. HOUSE, MG; Hugh VESMILIAN, bondsman, Book E, p. 32 James MANN, 26, and Elizabeth STAINER, 17, married 8 June 1884, by David LOGAN, MG; Alex WRIGHT, bondsman, Book E, p. 428 Peter MANN, 46, and Mrs. Annie ADDY, 23, married 13 January 1881, by W. A. SIVILS, JP, Book E, p. 107. [NOTE: In 1880, Peter MANN is living in Dyer Township, Dwelling 16, age 45, Grocer, born Louisiana, with parents both born in Ireland. ====== _Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1999), p. 63: Berry MANN, 25, and Susan DEER, 18, married 17 December 1878, Book D, p. 307. -===== Carolyn Earle Billingsley, _1890 Saline County, Arkansas, Taxpayers_ (1986), p. 31: James MANN, "no property found"; paid taxes in School District #22, Kentucky School District, Kentucky Township. No other MANNs listed as taxpayers in Saline County. No DEERs. ====== Since Dyer Township was right on the border of Garland County, perhaps you might find some trace of Asberry MANN in that county. He doesn't appear to be in Saline County in 1870 and neither are there any DEERs. I couldn't find any trace of these people either before or after the records I listed above. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Carolyn