This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/752.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your best bet is to go, or have someone else go, to the Salem Cemetery and check it out first-hand. My grandmother, Zenobia Morgan, is buried next to my grandfather, Wilson Morgan, in the McPherson-Sardis Cemetery in Saline County, but she is not listed on any of the records, even though he is. Strange, huh? Good luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolynFranklin70 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michael and J.P, this could be getting very interesting!! J.P. Morgan's post mentioning the Sims Family marrying into the Rowland Family has jarred my memory. Several years ago when I first started my research I found the Harris Rowland, Amos Rowland and Thomas Rowland in Saline Co., I thought there might be a connection to my Jeremiah Rowland that I was researching to these Rowlands. So, I wrote Marilyn Rowan who is a descendant of these Rowlands who I think are brothers. Amos married Mary "Polly" Sims. Marilyn wrote back and told me there was no connection of my Jeremiah Rowland to her Rowland line, so I abandoned my research in that area. I still have those notes and I will review them. It is curious that Emeline has a child that has the surname of Sims living with her and lists him as her son after her husband Jeremiah has been killed in the war. I think this calls for more research in the Rowland Family that married into the Sims Family. There may be a connection and a lost link. What do you think? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaelroland222 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On one of the census records and I don't recall which one, I believe it says something about him or his father(which isn't named) coming from Alabama. Or either my cousin told me that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In my research of the last 12 months, I have been more preoccupied with the Rowlands of the last 150 years. But, when I have time, I will go back further and see if Thomas, or any other Rowland in my family, and Jeremiah were related. If Jeremiah, or his family, came from AL to AR, like my Rowland ancestors did, then they are probably related. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaelroland222 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know. It is a real mystery. G.W. Roland wasn't born until 1870 or 1871. It would mean that his mother Emeline would have to have been involved somehow with a Sims around 1869 or so. Her husband Jeremiah was killed at Port Hudson in the Civil War. There were alot of Rowlands around Arkansas that weren't related to each other at all. None of the Rowland names you have mentioned match any that we have traced. Of course, not saying that it couldn't go back further than what we have traced. What was Thomas Rowland's middle name? Do you show anywhere that Jeremaiah Rowland could be a brother or anything related to the Rowlands you have traced? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Sims, McPherson and Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If this helps any . . . My Saline County, AR, Rowland heritage includes a SIMS. Thomas Rowland b. 1793 d. 04 July 1854 married Elizabeth SIMS b. 30 Nov 1792 d. 20 May 1853 Their son, Little Page Rowland b. 1817, AL, d. May 1864, AR married Vesta Ann McPherson b. 1829, TN d. before 1862, AR and their son, William Granville Rowland b. 04 July 1849 AR, d. 01 Mar 1926 AR married (1st wife) Sarah Ann Delilah Williams b. 1850 and their daughter, Laura Jane Rowland b. 1875 AR d. 1896 AR married David Morgan b. 1868-72, OKC???? d. ?????? IF any of you know any more info at all on Sarah Ann Delilah Williams-Rowland, Laura Jane Rowland-Morgan or David Morgan, then I would be very, very appreciative. But, back to the Sims name . . . Thomas Rowland did marry Elizabeth SIMS, so perhaps that is where the name comes in at. Perhaps more of her family moved here, once she did, and they married other Rowlands. A thought. Take care, JP Morgan, jpmorgan@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

JP...I also have several MILLERS...from basically Jacksonville, Pulaski Co., AR, but they married into BEALL and WILKINS lines. Do you have any of those lines....may be a help? Brenda -------------------------------------------------- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:51 PM To: <ARSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] Saline County History & Genealogy > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: j. p. morgan > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/371.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In my quest for more info on the Rowland, Miller and Morgan families of > Saline county . . . thank you very much! > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As for trying to make sense of piecing together families via pregnancy: I have a g.g.g.grandmother who had 6 children....all by brothers of the same family, but she never married one of them....and, a son by someone of another/different last name. She gave some the children the last name of their father and some her own last name. So, her children were siblings/cousins simultaneously!! Brenda -------------------------------------------------- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:29 PM To: <ARSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] Jeremiah Rowland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: michaelroland222 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I don't know. It could get interesting. I recall some time ago that I > looked at the census that had G.W. listed as Sims and I found no Sims > anywhere around where Emeline was living. I would think that people didn't > travel long distances to meet people and that if Emeline met somebody > named Sims and got pregnant and had a child that it would be someone local > as the father or someone from the family that had the Sims name and she > took them in. I know it's far fetched because I still want to believe that > Emeline was G.W.'s mother. I know that jeremiah wasn't the father. > However, if G.W. was a Sims, why did he abandon the name? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey there! Nope...being buried in any of the older cemeteries and NOT being listed is not unusual. I have three documented (newspapers, etc) buried in Rosemont Cemetery in Benton, AR and they are not listed either. Guess some of us just don't count! HA! -------------------------------------------------- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:24 PM To: <ARSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] salem cemetery records > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: j. p. morgan > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/752.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Your best bet is to go, or have someone else go, to the Salem Cemetery and > check it out first-hand. > > My grandmother, Zenobia Morgan, is buried next to my grandfather, Wilson > Morgan, in the McPherson-Sardis Cemetery in Saline County, but she is not > listed on any of the records, even though he is. Strange, huh? Good luck! > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: terrpooh Surnames: Cobb- Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: would like to know how much info you have on the Cobb's that your Emiline came from her sister Martha Drucilla Cobb my gggg?grandmother I have a little about them... SARAH EMILINE, born abt 1838 she married Jeremiah E Roland on Jan 2 1856 in Saline County Arkansas 4 known children LeeAnn /marr/ 1)Robert Hoggard 2)William Franklin Weaver William B/marr/ 1)Mary Rebecah Woodard 2)Isabelle (Eddleman)Woodard James j. John H. Jeremiah died April 1869. by 1871 Emiline had moved to the Enola/Holland area to be near her family, she apprear on the membership rolls of Oakland Methodist chruch from 1874 to 1878 when she transfered to Union Valley church. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, McPherson, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/785.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: LITTLE PAGE ROWLAND b. 1817, Talladega Co., AL m. 12 NOV 1846 d. May 1864, Sardis, Saline Co., AR and VESTA ANN MCPHERSON b. 1829, TN m. 12 NOV 1846 d. before 1862, Saline Co., AR were my great-great-great grandparents. Their son: WILLIAM GRANVILLE ROWLAND b. 04 JULY 1849, Sardis, Saline Co., AR m. 02 JAN 1868, Saline Co., AR d. 01 MAR 1926, Saline Co., AR and his 1st wife SARAH ANN DELILAH WILLIAMS b. 1850 were my great-great grandparents. Their daughter: LAURA (LARRA) JANE ROWLAND b. abt 1875, Saline Co., AR m. 28 APR 1892 in Pulaski Co., but came from Otter Twp, Saline Co., AR d. 1896 giving birth (possibly Little Rock) and DAVID MORGAN b. 1869-1872, unknown place. Maybe OKC m. 28 APR 1892 d. ?????? were my great-grandparents. What I really need is a lot more info on Sarah Ann Delilah Rowland, Laura Jane Rowland and David Morgan. I really know very little to nothing right now. And if you need more info on the Rowland/McPherson/Sims families, I have some info going back as far as Thomas Rowland, b. 1772 and Little Page Sims, b. 1770, VA. PLEASE help me with Sarah, Laura and David, if you can. Thank you so very much. JP Morgan, jpmorgan@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Miller, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/126.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Most of my family relations came from, or lived in, Saline County, AR. I am related to the Rowland, Miller and Morgan families. Please get in touch with me concerning this matter and how I may find the info I lack. Contact me at jpmorgan@hotmail.com. Thanks, JP Morgan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaelroland222 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Right. I know there were alot of Roland- Rowland folks in that area. My Great Great Grndmother Emeline Cobb married Jeremiah Rowland in Saline County Ark. I believe Jeremiahs family came from Alabama, but I can not confirm that. I have not been able to find anything on Jeremiahs brothers, sisters, or parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Miller, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/156.158.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to the Miller, Morgan and Rowland families of Saline County, AR. My Rowland lineage is: LITTLE PAGE ROWLAND b. 1817 Alabama m. 12 NOV 1846 to Vesta Ann McPherson in AR. d. May 1864, Saline County, AR WILLIAM GRANVILLE ROWLAND b. 04 July 1849, Saline County, AR m. 02 JAN 1868, Saline County, AR to Sarah Ann Delilah Williams (1st wife) d. 01 MAR 1926, Saline County, AR and buried at Mt. Olive Cem. w/2nd wife, Martha. LAURA JANE ROWLAND (ROLAND on marriage certificate) b. abt 1875 in Saline County, AR m. 28 APR 1892, Pulaski County, AR to David Morgan d. abt 1896 giving birth to a baby girl, who also died, both in Pulaski County. IF you have ANY info on ANY of these family members, especially on Laura Jane Rowland and her elusive husband, David Morgan, I will appreciate it very, very much. Sincerely, JP Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Miller, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/156.159/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am related to the Miller, Morgan and Rowland families of Saline County, AR. My Rowland lineage is: LITTLE PAGE ROWLAND b. 1817 Alabama m. 12 NOV 1846 to Vesta Ann McPherson in AR. d. May 1864, Saline County, AR WILLIAM GRANVILLE ROWLAND b. 04 July 1849, Saline County, AR m. 02 JAN 1868, Saline County, AR to Sarah Ann Delilah Williams (1st wife) d. 01 MAR 1926, Saline County, AR and buried at Mt. Olive Cem. w/2nd wife, Martha. LAURA JANE ROWLAND (ROLAND on marriage certificate) b. abt 1875 in Saline County, AR m. 28 APR 1892, Pulaski County, AR to David Morgan d. abt 1896 giving birth to a baby girl, who also died, both in Pulaski County. IF you have ANY info on ANY of these family members, especially on Laura Jane Rowland and her elusive husband, David Morgan, I will appreciate it very, very much. Sincerely, JP Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Miller, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Rowland family relations were all in Saline County, AR, I believe. But I think they came from Alabama, originally. I know my great-great-great grandfather, Little Page Rowland, was born in 1817 in Alabama. He and his wife, Vesta Ann McPherson had William Granville Rowland, b. 04 July 1849, Saline County, AR; and William and his wife, Sarah Ann Delilah Williams had Laura Jane Rowland. Interesting to note that my great-great-great grandmother was Vesta Ann McPherson, for many of my relatives (Miller, Morgan and Rowland) are buried in the McPherson Cemetery (Sardis) in Saline County. IF you ever run across any of these names in your search, please let me know. Thanks - JP Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sorry...none of these names tie into my Rowland line. Good luck! -------------------------------------------------- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:16 AM To: <ARSALINE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] Rowland to Roland > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: j. p. morgan > Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Miller, Morgan > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My Rowland family relations were all in Saline County, AR, I believe. But > I think they came from Alabama, originally. I know my great-great-great > grandfather, Little Page Rowland, was born in 1817 in Alabama. He and his > wife, Vesta Ann McPherson had William Granville Rowland, b. 04 July 1849, > Saline County, AR; and William and his wife, Sarah Ann Delilah Williams > had Laura Jane Rowland. Interesting to note that my great-great-great > grandmother was Vesta Ann McPherson, for many of my relatives (Miller, > Morgan and Rowland) are buried in the McPherson Cemetery (Sardis) in > Saline County. IF you ever run across any of these names in your search, > please let me know. Thanks - JP > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ARSALINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaelroland222 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ok I will. However, none of those names sound familiar in my search. Did they originate in central Arkansas? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: j. p. morgan Surnames: Rowland, Roland, Morgan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.saline/337.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My great-grandmother was Laura Jane Rowland-Morgan. I believe she was born a Rowland, to William Granville Rowland and Sarah Ann Delilah-Williams-Rowland. But on her marriage certificate to David Morgan, it is spelled Roland. If you run across anything on Laura or David, please let me know, ok? At this point we know almost nothing. Thanks. - JP Morgan, jpmorgan@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The posts seemed to be wondering where "Sims" name came from: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michaelroland222 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.arkansas.counties.s aline/337.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Carolyn, Yes the Sims has been a great source of confusion because that is the only place it is mentioned. That is why I believe that G.W. may be Emelines son by a different man, but G.W. never kept his name. I was not able to find any local Sims in that Census. Could have been a traveler or a migrant farm worker. Or perhaps she took in a child from someone? Yes Jefferson Davis Roland was George Washington Roland's brother. However, I never knew he was a reverend. G.W. did move to Kaufman Texas With his firt wife Ida Chamness and her sister and family. They all lived within a few hoses of each other. They had my Grandfather, Johnny Mansel Roland. Then Ida died and G.W. married her sister that had been living with them. Then either she died or he divorced her and then married my Great Grandmother Donahue. She had a daughter named Lillian. Johnny and Lillian(step brother and step sister)fell in love and married. They had my father Raymond. Yes I would like a copy of the obituary. Thanks, Michael My thinking was that "Sims" is an old maternal family name in the Rowland family from back in the early 1800's. Georgia In a message dated 5/8/2009 2:32:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, arsaline-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:34:31 -0700 From: "Dave or Brenda Escoto" <cobina60@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] ARSALINE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 25 To: <arsaline@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D2513160911C49479259117C4CAFEA64@ESCOTOPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original I do have SIMS, but only 7 and only two of those are female...neither of which is married to a Rowland. I have several Thomas Rowlands, but non married to a Sims. Are you sure you have the correct posts? -------------------------------------------------- From: <GATATUM@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:01 PM To: <arsaline@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ARSALINE] ARSALINE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 25 > You mention Sims in a couple of posts, Two Rowland brothers, Amos and > Thomas married two Sims sisters, Mary (Polly) and Elizabeth Sims, > daughters of > Littlepage Sims. This was in the Mississippi Territory. > Amos Rowland (1790-abt 1850) m. Mary (Polly) Sims 12 Feb. 1813 > Thomas Rowland (1792-1853) m. Elizabeth Sims 1812 > Both of the large families ended up in Pulaski/Saline Co. Ark. > My branch of Amos' family were in Henderson Co. TX by the 1860's. > Several Rowlands came from Arkansas to Texas. > Georgia Bengel Tatum > > Researching: Ashe, Bengel, Burris, Byrd, Carson, Cotton, Curry, Danforth, > Dorner, Ford, Johnson, Lovelace, Lynn, Miller, Owens, Petrey, Rowland, > Rumph, Sadler, Sims, Tatum, Walston families **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322931x1201367171/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =May5509AvgfooterNO115)