This is the best cemetery on the net. I hope this helps. http://www.interment.net/ Millie in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: Re: CEMETERIES TRASKWOOD > I would like to know if anyone knows where the old HOLLY GROVE Cem. and > the TRASKWOOD Cem. are and if they have directions to get to them. I am > planning a trip to Ark in the next couple of weeks and would like to go > to both of them as my Grandparents and Aunts and Uncles are buried in > them. > Thank you [email protected] > >

I would like to know if anyone knows where the old HOLLY GROVE Cem. and the TRASKWOOD Cem. are and if they have directions to get to them. I am planning a trip to Ark in the next couple of weeks and would like to go to both of them as my Grandparents and Aunts and Uncles are buried in them. Thank you [email protected]

Hello, I am new to the list and am research our great-great-grandparents. They are Richard Bodine Johnston and Sarah E. (Betty) Johnston. They came from Kentucky to Arkansas and their middle child (born in 1862) lists Salem, AR as place of birth. Bodine died in 1862 and Betty remarried in 1866. Has anyone run across this family or could give me a clue as where to look next? Thank You Lynne Bates

Glenda, Are you Glenda Landum?? If so, we used to correspond, then suddenly your email address didn't work. I think I may have some 'stuff' for you?? I research: JOHNSON-CARLTON-ROWLAND-REAGAN -and- HARRISON-WILKINS-MILLER-and more. Bren [email protected]

OOPS.......THAT WAS A FEW NIGHTS AGO. JAN 31, 2000. Sorry all you have to do is go to the site and click on ARCHIVES then click on William Dollarhides article on CENSUS DAYS Sorry for the goof. Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda Brothers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Census records > Charlene... Speaking of Census Records have you seen the site below on > census records? Quite interesting. > Take a look at this article on Census, It could change alot of our > estimating ages. > > I was surfing the other night, and found this article on "Census Day." > Thought it > was rather interesting, & others might also. > > http://www.genealogybulletin.com/HTML/current.html > > Later > > Glenda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charlene Holland <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 1:31 PM > Subject: Census records > > > > I read an interesting article on census records. > > > > Between 1790-1820 three copies of the census were made, all by hand > > In 1830 and 1840 two copies were made, again all by hand > > Between 1850-1880 three copies of the census was made, all by hand > > Between 1890-1920 one copy was made and as most of us know, most of the > > 1890 census was destroyed by fire. > > > > Is it any wonder that mistakes were made, names misspelled, or even just > > initials used! I can't imagine having to copy all those records by hand, > > can you? > > > > Charlene > > > > > > >

Hi, Take a look at this article on Census, It could change alot of our estimating ages. I was surfing a few nights ago, and found this article on "Census Day." Thought it was rather interesting, & others might also. > http://www.genealogybulletin.com/HTML/current.html It could answer why someone b. say a month before census actually was taken doesn't show up, or why someone who died a month or so before actual census taken is listed. This should be required reading for all of us. Later Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Census records > > In a message dated 02/20/00 3:33:44 PM, [email protected] writes: > > >Between 1850-1880 three copies of the census was made, all by hand > > > Does anyone know if there is a place (National Archives in DC?) where one > could ask to see films of, say, all three versions of the 1880 census for > Saline Cy? > > Has anyone been able to compare two versions of any census and find > differences? > > Ths topic could explain why some people suddenly "disappear" for a census or > have inconsistent data for one census. > > Fred > >

I read an interesting article on census records. Between 1790-1820 three copies of the census were made, all by hand In 1830 and 1840 two copies were made, again all by hand Between 1850-1880 three copies of the census was made, all by hand Between 1890-1920 one copy was made and as most of us know, most of the 1890 census was destroyed by fire. Is it any wonder that mistakes were made, names misspelled, or even just initials used! I can't imagine having to copy all those records by hand, can you? Charlene

In a message dated 02/20/00 3:33:44 PM, [email protected] writes: >Between 1850-1880 three copies of the census was made, all by hand Does anyone know if there is a place (National Archives in DC?) where one could ask to see films of, say, all three versions of the 1880 census for Saline Cy? Has anyone been able to compare two versions of any census and find differences? Ths topic could explain why some people suddenly "disappear" for a census or have inconsistent data for one census. Fred

In his definitive "From Memdag to Norsk: A Historical Directory of Arkansas Post Offices, 1832-1971") {AGS, Hot Springs, 1988. p. 28}, and again in a 1990 article in "The Saline", Russel Baker incorrectly places the vanished hamlet of Brazil, Arkansas, in S31 T2N R16W, the location of present day Paron. Brazil was in fact in S5 T1N R16W, about 1 1/2 miles southeast of Paron. MOSES BRAZIL (1803-1872), founder and first postmaster of Brazil, patented land in S5 by preemption in 1835. Baker himself implies different locations for Brazil and Paron in his directory: "BRAZIL, postoffice in Saline County from 1853-1924....When discontinued MAIL SENT TO PARON".Brazil's site can still be accessed from the first logging road south of Paron on State Highway 9. The road turns off by an old Pentecostal Church as shown on the AHTD's 1936 map {http://www.ahtd.state.ar.us/maps.htm}. Special thanks again to the two fellow researchers who supplied the Baker references. Carey

Eva, Have 10 Brashears but no Issac. Sorry. Bren [email protected]

> > Trying to locate any specific information about an ISSAC E. BRASHEARS that > > lived in the Saline County area, and had land there, Sec 26, Twp 2N, Rng > > 16W, 120 acres on June 30, 1882. Middle name is very important as well as > > any children or spouse information. Thanks. Eva Breshears > > [email protected] > > > > > >

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DEER and DYER are interchangeable. -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Earle Billingsley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Mann or Deer >At 05:16 PM 2/6/2000 -0800, you wrote: >>Can't help but be interested in conversation of Saline CO. AR. >>Have an elusive g-grandfather and mother that were married in Saline Twp. >>Saline Co. AR in 1878. >>Asbury Allison "Berry" Mann and Susan Deer, any one know of this family? >>Have been unable to find anything about them other then the marriage. >>birth dates Asbury 1852, Susan 1860 places unknown. >>Any Help is greatly appreciated. >Margrett > > >_Saline County, Arkansas, 1880 Census_ (Saline County History and Heritage >Society, 1989), p. 128: > >Dyer Township, Dwelling 79: >Berry HANN [sic], age 24, b. AR, father b. AR, mother b. TN--Farmer >Susan , age 23, AR/AR/AR wife >Mary , age 1, AR/AR/AR daughter > >Dyer Township, Dwelling 82: >James MANN, , age 24, AR/??/??--Farmer >Elizabeth , age 17, AR/TN/VA--wife >James , age 12, AR/TN/VA--brother >Eliza A. , age 50, VA/VA/VA--mother, widowed/divorced > >[Dwelling 62 is James HANN, age 30, TN/TN/TN, and Dwelling 72 is Jourdon >HANN, age 47, TN/KY/AL--I don't know if these names are really HANN or MANN.] > >[NOTE: I wonder if James is Elizabeth's brother and Eliza Elizabeth's >mother, instead of being the brother and mother of JAMES? I question this >because Eliza is born in Virginia and James MANN doesn't know where his >mother is born, whereas Elizabeth states that HER mother is born in >Virginia. However, I don't have access to the original census so I don't >know if the questions marks mean the transcriber couldn't read them or the >enumerator wrote them. CEB] >===== > >_Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George >Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, >1999), p. 90: > >J. L. MANN, 24, and Elizabeth WITHAM, 17, married March 28, 1880 by James >M. HOUSE, MG; Hugh VESMILIAN, bondsman, Book E, p. 32 > >James MANN, 26, and Elizabeth STAINER, 17, married 8 June 1884, by David >LOGAN, MG; Alex WRIGHT, bondsman, Book E, p. 428 > >Peter MANN, 46, and Mrs. Annie ADDY, 23, married 13 January 1881, by W. A. >SIVILS, JP, Book E, p. 107. [NOTE: In 1880, Peter MANN is living in Dyer >Township, Dwelling 16, age 45, Grocer, born Louisiana, with parents both >born in Ireland. >====== > >_Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George >Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, >1999), p. 63: > >Berry MANN, 25, and Susan DEER, 18, married 17 December 1878, Book D, p. 307. >-===== > >Carolyn Earle Billingsley, _1890 Saline County, Arkansas, Taxpayers_ >(1986), p. 31: > >James MANN, "no property found"; paid taxes in School District #22, >Kentucky School District, Kentucky Township. > >No other MANNs listed as taxpayers in Saline County. No DEERs. >====== > >Since Dyer Township was right on the border of Garland County, perhaps you >might find some trace of Asberry MANN in that county. He doesn't appear to >be in Saline County in 1870 and neither are there any DEERs. I couldn't >find any trace of these people either before or after the records I listed >above. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Carolyn >

Ancestry Corner http://www.ancestrycorner.com/ Click on forms There are downloadable forms for: Soundex, Census, Group Sheets, Corrospendence Logs, Research Logs, etc.

Georgia...thanks for your help..but, I had just gotten it to 'read' when I had sent the email. Like going to the dentist..when you get there...it doesn't hurt anymore! ha! Bren

I presume you are talking about the genealogy forms on Ancestry. The first time I tried to download these, my Adobe Acrobat wouldn't open them. This time I downloaded Adobe Acrobat 4.0 and downloaded the forms without any problems. They had added several new forms that I think will be helpful. Georgia Bengel Tatum, Odessa, Tx. [email protected]

At 05:16 PM 2/6/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Can't help but be interested in conversation of Saline CO. AR. >Have an elusive g-grandfather and mother that were married in Saline Twp. >Saline Co. AR in 1878. >Asbury Allison "Berry" Mann and Susan Deer, any one know of this family? >Have been unable to find anything about them other then the marriage. >birth dates Asbury 1852, Susan 1860 places unknown. >Any Help is greatly appreciated. >Margrett _Saline County, Arkansas, 1880 Census_ (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1989), p. 128: Dyer Township, Dwelling 79: Berry HANN [sic], age 24, b. AR, father b. AR, mother b. TN--Farmer Susan , age 23, AR/AR/AR wife Mary , age 1, AR/AR/AR daughter Dyer Township, Dwelling 82: James MANN, , age 24, AR/??/??--Farmer Elizabeth , age 17, AR/TN/VA--wife James , age 12, AR/TN/VA--brother Eliza A. , age 50, VA/VA/VA--mother, widowed/divorced [Dwelling 62 is James HANN, age 30, TN/TN/TN, and Dwelling 72 is Jourdon HANN, age 47, TN/KY/AL--I don't know if these names are really HANN or MANN.] [NOTE: I wonder if James is Elizabeth's brother and Eliza Elizabeth's mother, instead of being the brother and mother of JAMES? I question this because Eliza is born in Virginia and James MANN doesn't know where his mother is born, whereas Elizabeth states that HER mother is born in Virginia. However, I don't have access to the original census so I don't know if the questions marks mean the transcriber couldn't read them or the enumerator wrote them. CEB] ===== _Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1999), p. 90: J. L. MANN, 24, and Elizabeth WITHAM, 17, married March 28, 1880 by James M. HOUSE, MG; Hugh VESMILIAN, bondsman, Book E, p. 32 James MANN, 26, and Elizabeth STAINER, 17, married 8 June 1884, by David LOGAN, MG; Alex WRIGHT, bondsman, Book E, p. 428 Peter MANN, 46, and Mrs. Annie ADDY, 23, married 13 January 1881, by W. A. SIVILS, JP, Book E, p. 107. [NOTE: In 1880, Peter MANN is living in Dyer Township, Dwelling 16, age 45, Grocer, born Louisiana, with parents both born in Ireland. ====== _Saline County, Arkansas, Marriage Records Books A-B-C-D-E_, by George Akins and Leon Rowland Moore (Saline County History and Heritage Society, 1999), p. 63: Berry MANN, 25, and Susan DEER, 18, married 17 December 1878, Book D, p. 307. -===== Carolyn Earle Billingsley, _1890 Saline County, Arkansas, Taxpayers_ (1986), p. 31: James MANN, "no property found"; paid taxes in School District #22, Kentucky School District, Kentucky Township. No other MANNs listed as taxpayers in Saline County. No DEERs. ====== Since Dyer Township was right on the border of Garland County, perhaps you might find some trace of Asberry MANN in that county. He doesn't appear to be in Saline County in 1870 and neither are there any DEERs. I couldn't find any trace of these people either before or after the records I listed above. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Carolyn

Can't help but be interested in conversation of Saline CO. AR. Have an elusive g-grandfather and mother that were married in Saline Twp. Saline Co. AR in 1878. Asbury Allison "Berry" Mann and Susan Deer, any one know of this family? Have been unable to find anything about them other then the marriage. birth dates Asbury 1852, Susan 1860 places unknown. Any Help is greatly appreciated Margrett

Hurricane Creek is just North of my grandparents (last owned) property, at the northern-most section of the town of Benton, Saline Co., AR. My ggf purchased a great deal of land there, and divided it up among his sons, one of which was my grandfather, Clarence Ramey 'Doc' Harrison. The creek ran through the 'original' land parcel, sort of NW>SW. I believe the TWP was in that general area. Hope this is [email protected]

I tried to download the free forms you sent info about. The window to pick a reader came up and I choose FTW which ended up to be incorrect as it only takes me to a blank FTM page...I cannot open anything there. My mistake!! When I re-tried to download the forms, I didn't get the option to choose a different reader again. How can I get the forms now that I seem to have locked in the incorrect reader, and if this IS possible, which do I pick? (I already have Adobe Acrobat but don't know which one to pick in the reader window). Thanks, Bren