This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Carter/Busby/Farmer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.4.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Deb - I did. I'll answer that thread with the info I have...It will be later today - I'm heading out for an appt.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No bribe needed. I'll forward her e-mail to you. Joan is great. This is Mary Busby, Nancy Jane's sister. Remembe, Nancy Jane and Mary married brothers. Nancy Jane married Grandpa Farmer, Louis Napoleon, and Mary married his brother, Tollie. Well, Joan tells me that Mary proved up and was given the land in Oklahoma. So Mary is your great aunt or ggaunt. And I am like you, I want the info not the land. E-mail me at smokeyjoe77868@yahoo.com and I will catch you up on all the family news.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.4.1.1 Message Board Post: Phillip, did you get my email in reguards to nancy jane (Ann) daughter of Elizebeth and Henry Carter. Deb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Carter/Busby/Farmer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carolyn - I hope you remember me from prior emails - this is Phil - It appears (from the posting here) that you have more info than when last we were in contact. How might I bribe you into forwarding info from Joan? And, which of the cousins do you reference here regarding the Oklahoma land grant? I'm not keen on the land - just the Native American proof positive. You've gotten me energized to start looking hard again...:)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/481.5.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Debra: I see that you have heard from Phillip. Phillip has more information than I do. He has been researching longer.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Carter/Busby/Farmer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Deb - I rec'd. two of these, thus, I am closing this thread with a response - the two queries appear to be the same. Look forward to future correspondence.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Carter/Busby/Farmer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.4.1 Message Board Post: Hi Deb - I do have info going back in the family to approx. 1760. - that does include Elizabeth. Where are you in the fam tree? I have yet to complete my research, however, I'm happy to share with other family members:)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Busby, Farmer, Garner, Parker, Bolin, Collins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Elizabeth was a Carter. Her mother is buried at the Carver Cemetary in Newton County. Burl's family came from Tennessee. And, yes, I do have some information on them. I have a cousin that has done more research than I have and has lots more information. Contact me at my e-mail address. smokeyjoe77868@yahoo.com. Two of Burl's ggrandaughters are still living and there are a whole slew of gggrandchildren. Also, we were always told that Elizabeth was either Cherokee or Choctaw. My cousin tells me that one of her daughters proved up and was granted land in Oklahoma. Joan is now searching for those papers. Also, how are you related to this family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.2 Message Board Post: I am interested in any info that you may have on Burl, Elizabeth, Nancy and you family. I have been looking for so long on anything, but have not found out anything. Do you know anything about Elizabeths family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.4 Message Board Post: I am interested in any info that you may have on Burl, Elizabeth, Nancy and you family. I have been looking for so long on anything, but have not found out anything. Do you know anything about Elizabeths family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/481.5.1.2 Message Board Post: I am interested in any info that you may have on Burl, Elizabeth, Nancy and you family. I have been looking for so long on anything, but have not found out anything. Do you know anything about Elizabeths family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/226.1 Message Board Post: Georgia Spencer was my great aunt. I would love to help you with any info if I can. I rarely check the boards but you can email me @ thekeevs@yahoo.com.

Hello Delores, Have written to you before about the Burdine families. Thomas Shatswell divorced Canzada Burdine early after their marriage in Newton Co. AR. (they married in 1868). The divorce is in the Newton County, AR. records. Cannot give you the date as my Burdine files are not available (in storage). Do not know what happened to Canzada Burdine Shatswell. The tale in Newton County, AR is that William Burdine's wife was a Vesterman. William Burdine died ca 1866 and is buried in Smith Cemetery (Newton Co., AR)without a marker. William's son Nathaniel Burdine married (1)Sarah Jane Pierce and (2) Emeline Peoples. Nathaniel died in 1924 and is also buried in Smith Cemetery. Have Nathaniel's Civil War Pension record. The early Illinois marriages are on-line. You will find some of the Winchester names you have listed in these marriages. <A HREF="http://cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s"> http://cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s</A> Evelyn Flood Rkinfolks@aol.com Genealogy Memo-ra-bil-ia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Winchester, Asher, Riley, Ingall, Burdine. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/10.19 Message Board Post: Elliott, I have your WILLIAM BURDINE in Calhoun Co. IL Gilead twp. 1850. William is born in 1809 KY. He has ELIZABETH b. 1810 NC. as his wife and the following children in his household: Thomas b. 1830 MO. Angeline b. 1834 MO. Harriett b. 1835 MO. Frank b. 1838 MO. Phoebe b. 1838 MO. Nathaniel b. 1841 MO. Kanazada b. 1848 MO. Angeline is found in another houshold with her sister Mary Violet Winchester Ingall (b. 1818 TN.) listed as Angeline Winchester. The Ingalls live just 5 households from the Burdines. Another sister is Elizabeth Jane Winchester Carey b. 1834 MO. lives just 1 household from the Burdine family. Elizabeth Jane is my GGgrandmother. Harriett is a Winchester according to the IL marriage registery. Harriett married a Riley. Thomas moves to Newton Co. with William and Nathaniel and Kanazada. Nathaniel m. Pierce. I think this Kanazada is found as Cansadia Burdyne 1868 Newton AK m to Thomas Shotswell. Thomas m. Rachel Asher later has a son James Perry Winchester I feel that the Burdine family found in Calhoun Co. is a combined family....I think Elizabeth is the mother to the Winchester children. Elizabeth Jane stated on census that both parents were born in NC. Please contact me with your thoughts. Thanks, Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/503.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karrie, Sorry my message was hard to read. I believe that Willie and Floyd and Rosemary were siblings. Floyd apparently married Virginia McKinney who must have been Indian....probably Cherokee. I was born in Clarksville, Arkansas. My Curtis grandmother spent some time in Oklahoma when she was a child because her father was homesteading. He drank from a Cistern and then died from Typhoid at the age of 29. I also heard that Rosemary was sent to an orphanage right after her mother, Florence, died. (I am in touch with several Nichols descendants who tell me these things and send me some documents.) Why would she be sent to Shawnee, Oklahoma, all the way from Newton County, Arkansas? Why, when she still had a father and siblings? Florence and David had no Indian blood as far as I know. I have photographs of Sarah Caroline Nichols and also of another brother, John B. Nichols. No indian blood there. I also have a photograph of Sarah Norris, sister of Florence. No Indian blood there either. Did Rosemary have a different parent? Ask your father if he knows what happened to James Nichols (father of David Crockett Nichols) Was he bushwacked in Galena Missouri at the end of the Civil War? Best, Laura

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/503.2.2.2 Message Board Post: One more thing Rosemary and Jacob Walters had 3 children: 1) Evelyn Walters-Hughes m Francis Clement Hughes They had one son Francis Clement Hughes- My dad 2) June Walters m Ann ? I can find out. They live in Magnolia, Ar 3) Manning Walters m ? And again I can find out all info on these familes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/503.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Laura It is great to hear form you. I am a little confused about the Indian part. Who is Willie Ocolla Nichols? son of Floyd and Virginia? and is Rosemary his sister? I was told she was raised in an orphange in Shawnee but the stories are not consistent. I will talk more to my dad-Rosemary was his grandmother. All this is so interesting I will tell you later why I need to find Indian blood in our families. Also what is funny I was told we were Cherokee. Was Virginia full blooded or where did it start? I live in Edmond,OK Where are you from? Thanks for everything, Karrie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/503.2.2 Message Board Post: Hi Karrie, James Nichols was also my gr, gr, gr, grandfather. (through Sarah Carolyn Nichols (one of his daughters). I have a lot of information about James and Sarah and Florence Norris. David Crockett Nichols and Sarah Carolyn NIchols (Curtis) were very close siblings. I have a letter that Sarah wrote to David, among other things. I know that Florence died in 1895 under mysterious circumstances. I would like to know what happened to her children. One of them was, I think, put up for adoption. Anyway, you just said you were interested in the Indian question. Here is what I have: David Crockett Nichols Married Florence Norris in 1877. Florence was born January 29, 1860 in Fentress County, Tn and died March 29, 1895 in Newton County, AR. (And was buried in the Curtis Cemetery) Children: James Crockett Nichols, John Matthew Nichols, (m. Manda Dunham July 25, 1897. They had two children Alpha and Alvin. John divorced Amanda. Alvin and his wife, child and mother-in-law were killed in a tornado in 1922. Amanda remarried to James Newton Martin and had six more children.), Joseph Columbus Nichols, m. Suphronia m. Margaret Edna Carr, Floyd Gray Nichols, m. Virginia Ellen McKinney, Aug. 5, 1905, Shawnee, Pottowatamie Nation, Indian Territory, Willie Ocolla Nichols, Rosemary Adeline Nichols, m. Ott Gilbert, m. Jacob L. Walters (Rosemary Adeline was named for her grandmother, Delilah Adeline McPherson (Nichols) David Crockett Nichols died March 14, 1927 in Lewston, Idaho. Sarah Carolyn Nichols died September 9, 1927, just six months after her brother, David. Could you tell me the history of Rosemary? Laura

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xV.2ADE/503.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karrie, James Nichols was also my gr, gr, gr, grandfather. (through Sarah Carolyn Nichols (one of his daughters). I have a lot of information about James and Sarah and Florence Norris. David Crockett Nichols and Sarah Carolyn NIchols (Curtis) were very close siblings. I have a letter that Sarah wrote to David, among other things. I know that Florence died in 1895 under mysterious circumstances. I would like to know what happened to her children. One of them was, I think, put up for adoption. Anyway, you just said you were interested in the Indian question. Here is what I have: David Crockett Nichols Married Florence Norris in 1877. Florence was born January 29, 1860 in Fentress County, Tn and died March 29, 1895 in Newton County, AR. (And was buried in the Curtis Cemetery) Children: James Crockett Nichols, John Matthew Nichols, (m. Manda Dunham July 25, 1897. They had two children Alpha and Alvin. John divorced Amanda. Alvin and his wife, child and mother-in-law were killed in a tornado in 1922. Amanda remarried to James Newton Martin and had six more children.), Joseph Columbus Nichols, m. Suphronia m. Margaret Edna Carr, Floyd Gray Nichols, m. Virginia Ellen McKinney, Aug. 5, 1905, Shawnee, Pottowatamie Nation, Indian Territory, Willie Ocolla Nichols, Rosemary Adeline Nichols, m. Ott Gilbert, m. Jacob L. Walters (Rosemary Adeline was named for her grandmother, Delilah Adeline McPherson (Nichols) David Crockett Nichols died March 14, 1927 in Lewston, Idaho. Sarah Carolyn Nichols died September 9, 1927, just six months after her brother, David. Could you tell me the history of Rosemary? Laura

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xV.2ADE/503.2 Message Board Post: James Nichols was my gr gr gr grandfather. I am just geeting into all this and have found out a little. Florence Norris married David Nichols and had daughter Rosemary Nichlos Walters. Rosemary married Jacob Walters and daughter Evelyn Walters Hughes-which is my grandmother. Do you know if there is any Indian blood in the family? Karrie Hughes-beardsley