Robin, I don't have any Armstronges in my line that I know of, but I know there are variations of the spelling...Armstrang, Armestrang, etc. Remember,not too long ago very few common people could read and write so had to rely on somebody who lived nearby or an official to do their writing for them. Those who could write might use their own spelling and often would write as the word was pronounced. I have some McCoys who married with my Armstrongs, but sometimes the name is written McKay which was the way it was pronounced in certain areas...but it was the same family. So I imagine Mr. Armstronge is just as much an Armstrong as we are. Some think that Strong is a variant of Armstrong and that's why the Armstrongs are in on the Strong DNA study. cousin Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE > Hi everyone :) > > Shocked yet? Yes, I'm actually posting a genie related message, enjoy it > while it lasts! lol I've received an email from an Alexander Armstronge, > I don't THINK he's a member of this list. If not, I'll send him in this > direction I think! :D Anyway, he's given me a little bit of information > ... > > "The furthest back we have reached conclusively is to c1522 with John De > Mormaer Armstronge,The De Mormaer. Bit hard past this point as there > aren't much in the line of accurate records!" > > Does anyone connect to this info? If so, can you please let me know? Ta > muchly! :D Alexander spells his name with an "e", I don't have any like > that in my own tree. Does anyone else? > > Take care, > > Robyn. > IBSSG > Stockbridge, Georgia, USA > Honey's Home of Genealogy > www.honeyshome.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robyn, Marilyn, et al On the back of the book THE ARMSTRONG BORDERLAND, by William A Armstrong (Scotpress 1986) there are 51 ways to spell Armstrong listed... Or as William puts it... Old Forms of the name Armstrong...!!! I wouldn't get too hung up on Exact spellings... for example... in the U.S. we have tires on our cars in the U.K. they have Tyres.. In the U.S. we Inquire In the U.K. they Enquire In the U.S. we Realize. in the U.K. they Realise.. so what difference does it make as long as you understand what the other person is saying/writing...!!! sincerely, John D amongst the yellow leaves in the beautiful Matanuska Valley a Little SoWest of North Marilyn Otterson wrote: >Robin, I don't have any Armstronges in my line that I know of, but I know >there are variations of the spelling...Armstrang, Armestrang, etc. >Remember,not too long ago very few common people could read and write so had >to rely on somebody who lived nearby or an official to do their writing for >them. Those who could write might use their own spelling and often would >write as the word was pronounced. I have some McCoys who married with my >Armstrongs, but sometimes the name is written McKay which was the way it was >pronounced in certain areas...but it was the same family. So I imagine Mr. >Armstronge is just as much an Armstrong as we are. Some think that Strong >is a variant of Armstrong and that's why the Armstrongs are in on the Strong >DNA study. > >cousin Marilyn > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:56 PM >Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE > > > > >>Hi everyone :) >> >>Shocked yet? Yes, I'm actually posting a genie related message, enjoy it >>while it lasts! lol I've received an email from an Alexander Armstronge, >>I don't THINK he's a member of this list. If not, I'll send him in this >>direction I think! :D Anyway, he's given me a little bit of information >>... >> >>"The furthest back we have reached conclusively is to c1522 with John De >>Mormaer Armstronge,The De Mormaer. Bit hard past this point as there >>aren't much in the line of accurate records!" >> >>Does anyone connect to this info? If so, can you please let me know? Ta >>muchly! :D Alexander spells his name with an "e", I don't have any like >>that in my own tree. Does anyone else? >> >>Take care, >> >>Robyn. >>IBSSG >>Stockbridge, Georgia, USA >>Honey's Home of Genealogy >>www.honeyshome.com >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Hi Everyone... I've been lurking in the woodwork, enjoying the various messages of late. Mention of the DNA Study and the possible relationship between Armstrong and Strong as surnames has stirred me, as the resident Strong, to comment. Much as I enjoy my association with the members of this list, as time has gone on, and a lack of possible Y-DNA matches has become apparent, I am becoming fairly sure that there is not really a genealogical relationship between the two surnames. But, then, a lot of the Armstrong folks on the list who have taken the Y-DNA test [or had a relative participate for them], have found they are not related either. Of course, that is part of the reason for Y-DNA testing... it does help focus one's mind on research that is useful; eg., we don't waste a lot of time speculating about possible relationships when we know there is no Y-DNA match. The discussions on the list, genealogical and otherwise, continue to be interesting, however! {:-) I think, Marilyn [one n], that you are correct about the evolution of the spelling variants you mention. For what it is worth, I think Strong is more likely a variant of Strang or Strange. Both Strang and Strange occur in Scotland, and Strange has a separate English origin for some lines as well. The English Strange variety probably derives from the French "LeStrange". The Scottish variety seems to derive from a totally different root... perhaps "Strang" is a Scottish pronounciation of "Strong"; although some writers have speculated that Strang derives from the Norse "Strangi". Robyn... I THINK "De Mormaer" is a Frenchified descriptive of the title of the Alexander Armstronge c.1522. I believe, subject to correction by anyone who knows more definitively, "Mormaer" may have been the early Gaelic term for "Earl". [In very early Scotland, the Mormaers elected one of their number as King... before that position became hereditary.] In any case, if I am right, Alexander Armstronge, c.1522, was one of the Mormaers, or Earls, of Scotland. Sean Armstrong, or Joe of Gateshead, can you comment? Turning to some of the recent messages... Late this summer I helped a cousin process some crab apples into juice... baking a pie out of them seemed rather useless, as they were too small to yield much apple. Now, a question: I've got a couple of pear trees which yield a small round pear which is not very tasty. However, I've been told the pears make an excellent "pear butter". Does anyone know how to process them and make pear butter? Oh, and Marilynn [two n's]... with due respect, the cutest grandson in Seattle is MINE ! {:-) Regards Dave Strong ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Otterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE > Robin, I don't have any Armstronges in my line that I know of, but I know > there are variations of the spelling...Armstrang, Armestrang, etc. > Remember,not too long ago very few common people could read and write so > had > to rely on somebody who lived nearby or an official to do their writing > for > them. Those who could write might use their own spelling and often would > write as the word was pronounced. I have some McCoys who married with my > Armstrongs, but sometimes the name is written McKay which was the way it > was > pronounced in certain areas...but it was the same family. So I imagine > Mr. > Armstronge is just as much an Armstrong as we are. Some think that Strong > is a variant of Armstrong and that's why the Armstrongs are in on the > Strong > DNA study. > > cousin Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Leeds" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:56 PM > Subject: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE > > >> Hi everyone :) >> >> Shocked yet? Yes, I'm actually posting a genie related message, enjoy it >> while it lasts! lol I've received an email from an Alexander Armstronge, >> I don't THINK he's a member of this list. If not, I'll send him in this >> direction I think! :D Anyway, he's given me a little bit of information >> ... >> >> "The furthest back we have reached conclusively is to c1522 with John De >> Mormaer Armstronge,The De Mormaer. Bit hard past this point as there >> aren't much in the line of accurate records!" >> >> Does anyone connect to this info? If so, can you please let me know? Ta >> muchly! :D Alexander spells his name with an "e", I don't have any like >> that in my own tree. Does anyone else? >> >> Take care, >> >> Robyn. >> IBSSG >> Stockbridge, Georgia, USA >> Honey's Home of Genealogy >> www.honeyshome.com >>

That's okay, Dave. Mine is a Great-Grandson. Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [ARMSTRONG] ARMSTRONGE >>>> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >